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mike79nj

I could understand the heat stress, they have been in a hot sun here and I got a late start planting them. I'll try that thanks. I'll follow up to let everyone know what happens.

    Bookmark     July 12, 2014 at 8:31PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

It is because of the sun but not heat stress. Some varieties do that, just like some leaf lettuce sold in store.

    Bookmark     July 13, 2014 at 7:49AM
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planatus(6)

I have taste tested the best of the b sprout leaves, the little topknot of foliage that comes on late, in cool weather, and it was spit-out bad.

I leave the lower leaves on until harvest time begins. As with other cabbages, they naturally shed as the plants age, and want to be pulled off.

My big seedlings started in early June will go out this week. It's a strange planting schedule, but that's how we get sweet sprouts in Oct and Nov.

    Bookmark     July 13, 2014 at 7:07AM
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floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK

Well, planatus - that's depressing to hear. Maybe you chose a bad bunch, cooked them in a way that didn't suit them or they just aren't to your taste but they are a delicious veggie in my view and, as I said, are harvested and marketed as a seasonal vegetable in their own right here. I would hate people to be put off trying them by your experience.

Here is a link that might be useful: Sprout tops - again.

    Bookmark     July 13, 2014 at 7:22AM
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Veggie gardenWho says veggie gardens can't be colorful?
Posted by goudreau July 11, 2014
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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

Um, where are the vegetables? :) Your garden looks great.

Rodney

    Bookmark     July 12, 2014 at 11:21AM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

Love that patch of zinnias! I do see some squash and corn in there. I bet you have lots of bees and butterflies and bouquets for the kitchen table. :-)

    Bookmark     July 13, 2014 at 5:14AM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

Might be aphids...check under leaves. Squish as needed or spray off with water. Also, might be herbicidal damage. Any weed killer sprayed recently?

Looks like you have something munching on them also. Hornworms, slugs, maybe? A nighttime inspection might find the culprit

Kevin

    Bookmark     July 12, 2014 at 4:44PM
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Canadaman

Hey Kevin thanks for your reply,really appreciate it. I have tried to use insecticidal soap a couple of times, I haven't used any weed killer sprays. I have been checking the leaves almost regularly, but I have yet to do a night time inspection; I will do an inspection tonight and update on this post. Again very grateful for your advice.

    Bookmark     July 12, 2014 at 8:06PM
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Ohiofem(6a Ohio)

Skunk musk contains thiol. A thiol is a type of sulfur-based compound found in garlic and onions. It could be that your pepper contains some kind of sulfur. Just a guess.

Here is a link that might be useful: Short video about the chemistry of skunk spray

    Bookmark     July 12, 2014 at 7:59PM
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Ohiofem(6a Ohio)

Duplicate post. Sorry

This post was edited by Ohiofem on Sat, Jul 12, 14 at 20:05

    Bookmark     July 12, 2014 at 8:00PM
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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

Sticky stuff on leaves means sucking bugs.

    Bookmark     July 12, 2014 at 6:59PM
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catherinet(5 IN)

Thanks everyone.
I grow "County Fair" cucs, which lack the bitter gene. (which is why it doesn't attract cucumber beetles). I wonder what that means in terms of it tasting bitter??

    Bookmark     July 12, 2014 at 4:05PM
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MrClint

I trialed cukes this year and found 'Telegraph' put out an occasional bitter-beyond-belief cuke.

    Bookmark     July 12, 2014 at 6:05PM
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clabarr(5)

My quinoa on July 3, 2014 in North Chicago area.. I am really happy about how it is currently doing and challenged to try to keep it going!

    Bookmark     July 4, 2014 at 7:50AM
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clabarr(5)

UPDATE: The quinoa is actually going to be several different colors -- Here are a photo of one that looks like it will be purple. I also have what appears to be yellow, Lime green, bright pink, and orange.

    Bookmark     July 12, 2014 at 5:29PM
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christripp

Wrigley, I've never seen ants chew through and take down plants at the base, are you sure it isn't perhaps cut worms?
I've never had any problems from my ants in the garden (hey, they are Canadian Ants, maybe they are really polite eh?:)
But yes, if you do have real problems with them, a mix of baking soda/sugar/water in any containers will help lessen the population. They take it back to the queen, or they ingest it and ... I think they explode but I really don't want to know:(
Have to admit to never needing to try this but I've heard of too many people raving about this to doubt it's effectiveness. The "recipe" below lists yeast too, I guess there are a number of combo's but likely they all work just as well. You don't need holes in the lids, if ants can crawl up vertical kitchen cabinets to the counter tops, they can manage a jam jar lid or even a bowl set in the ground a little so it doesn't get tipped over by you, just fine. If the bowl is level with the ground, this will also trap slugs and earwigs, so double duty (they drowned). Beer used to be used for slug/earwigs but what a waste of good beer:)

Here is a link that might be useful: baking soda and sugar water

    Bookmark     June 11, 2013 at 3:33AM
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sphinx_face

The thing I think is important to remember is that some bugs are nocturnal, like I believe the cutworms are. You might find something munching the plant bases if you go out with a flashlight after the sun goes down.

    Bookmark     July 12, 2014 at 4:05PM
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jctsai8b(8B)

I use 10 to 1 diluted urine to water my long squash once a week, it is growing pretty well.

    Bookmark     July 12, 2014 at 11:47AM
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wayne_5 zone 6a Central Indiana

For fertilizing soil that has good organic matter and previous years rotted horse manure with a lot of hay in it, I like to scatter and work in some slow release fertilizer like Plant Tone in the planting hill or row and then band some faster release fertilizer around or along the plants. This lasts all season.

    Bookmark     July 12, 2014 at 11:57AM
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sweetquietplace(6 WNC Mtn.)

I'm having to harvest my potatoes a bit early because of all the rain. I've solved the non-keeping problem by canning them.

    Bookmark     July 12, 2014 at 11:37AM
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wayne_5 zone 6a Central Indiana

Those look delicious.

The reds grow, large and early.

    Bookmark     July 12, 2014 at 11:50AM
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howelbama(7 NJ)

While this does tend to be a normal occurrence, it can also indicate a nitrogen deficiency when the oldest leaves yellow and fall off.

Most likely it is as galinas says, but what are your watering and feeding habits?

    Bookmark     July 11, 2014 at 5:16PM
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mdy113

watering them regular, keeping soil moist, but not over watered. about every week and half adding liquid food to water (which has highest number in nitrogen) i think its 12-8-4, plants are thriving, but maybe it is the whole lack of sun thing for those bottom leaves.

    Bookmark     July 12, 2014 at 11:18AM
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Bloomin_Onion(2/3)

Hi, could be a number of things from sun scald of the leaves perhaps to vitamin deficiency... that soil looks pretty dry... I can't really say. Have you fertilized? Do you water consistently? Ants like my bean plants too, as well as my sunflowers. Don't ask me why... no aphids from what I can see.

    Bookmark     July 12, 2014 at 12:53AM
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elisa_z5

They don't look like they're dying -- and your harvest may not be affected by these leaf issues. I've had deer eat all the leaves off my bean plants, and they still sprouted new leaves and produced beans just fine. I do see a wilted leaf in the right of your squash photo -- is that another squash plant? Now THAT one looks like it's in trouble (hopefully it's just a weed you've pulled and let lie!)

Wait -- I just looked closer. Is that squash in a pot or in the ground? If it's in a pot, it may be stressed from not enough space (if that is a pot, it looks too small for the plant.)

    Bookmark     July 12, 2014 at 10:15AM
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bart1(6/7 Northern VA)

Thanks folks!

How cured is cured? When the tops are completely dry?

    Bookmark     July 11, 2014 at 4:22PM
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mav72(10b)

Yep completely dried leaves and dried layered bulb skins on the outside..

    Bookmark     July 12, 2014 at 12:01AM
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Aaron_Wisconsin_(5)

I had similar issues with radish. I learned they need a lot water and cool temperature to grow well.

    Bookmark     July 11, 2014 at 11:13PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Where are you located? What garden zone? Please do include that info in the box provided.

It is far too late, soil is too warm in most of the country for radishes now. With heat and warm soil all you get is tops with little to no root development.

Dave

    Bookmark     July 11, 2014 at 11:31PM
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