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ju1234((8 Dallas TX))

I have covered the non planted / walk areas with old carpet and / or cardboard. Clean area to walk and no grass/weeds. Divert your bath/shower water to garden and use as stored water, save money and time.

    Bookmark   June 8, 2014 at 11:38PM
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pnbrown

I use cardboard a lot.

For efficiency, I don't think anything beats the old straight rows and the hoe, dirt mulch. Of course, it also tires ground out quickly, so fallowing is critical. The fallow is when weeds often take over, so the smart farmer plants the cover crops in rows as well and hoes, just like for the food crop.

Too bad I'm not that smart, or that energetic.

    Bookmark   June 9, 2014 at 6:55AM
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elisa_z5

Oh dear. You could get an awful lot of seed potatoes for that price, and grow a nice crop. Next year, just plant potatoes, and you'll have much more chance of success!

There was a thread on here recently about the things that garden centers sell that make no sense -- like radish and carrot seedlings. Your garden center belongs on that thread as well!

Gardening is all a learning experience. This will be a story to tell :)

    Bookmark   June 8, 2014 at 10:47PM
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floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK

I'm suspecting that, if the potatoes were in 5 gallon pots, they were never intended for planting into a garden. That would certainly be a very unusual technique, as digdirt says. Possibly they were intended to be grown in the the container permanently just to provide a crop of new potatoes? If you Google potatoes in 5 gallon buckets there are lots of hits describing the technique. Maybe you should have just left them in the container, fed and watered them and waited until the foliage started to die down.

    Bookmark   June 9, 2014 at 2:50AM
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pd0xgard_

Yeah, I just checked now, after the sun has gone down and they're all closed up.

    Bookmark   June 8, 2014 at 8:29PM
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naturegirl_2007 5B SW Michigan(5B SW Michigan)

Yes, the leaves open and close and move around a lot. There are some interesting YouTube videos of their moves I looked at a few days ago. I'm trying peanuts for the first time this year, too. I don't expect them to do great since our summers are usually too short and too mild for them, but it will be fun to see some of how they grow.

Here is a link that might be useful: Peanut time lapse

    Bookmark   June 8, 2014 at 11:27PM
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macky77(2a)

We were in the city all day yesterday and came home to leaning plants all over the garden, all in the same direction. Winds were high, that's all. :) As long as nothing is broken, the tomatoes will correct themselves. The brassicas might need a little help, though. I'm going out today to nudge them back upright and mound the soil around them again. (I bury them quite a bit when I transplant, but if the top inch is a bit dry, young plants will still tilt a bit in high winds because the soil shifts instead of holds).

    Bookmark   June 8, 2014 at 10:35AM
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eugene_2010

Istarted them from seed,so i couldn,t bury them deep.I,m new to broccoli,so i wasn,t sure if it was some sort of root insect, they look better now.

    Bookmark   June 8, 2014 at 11:14PM
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keith100_gw(NY 5A)

Yes, I believe it did . I'll be spraying again tomorrow . Did it work for you as well?

    Bookmark   June 7, 2014 at 10:26PM
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jimmy56_gw (zone 6 PA)

Yes, That's why I recommend it, But I only ever needed to spray 1 time.

    Bookmark   June 8, 2014 at 8:57PM
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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

Congrats. You're ahead of me.

    Bookmark   June 8, 2014 at 7:04PM
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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

That's a healthy pumpkin plant. The flowers will sort themselves out eventually. It's normal for either males (usually) or females to show up without the other gender initially.

The vines will climb things if they are close and no, it's not a problem. No reason at all to chop it down. If a pumpkin does form on the vines that are climbing the fence you will need to make a sling to support the pumpkin to keep it from tearing the vines down. But if you don't want it climbing the fence, you can either snip the tendrils holding it to the fence so that it will lay back on the ground or just train the vine back down. If it were mine I'd leave it alone and let it do what it wants (unless it started growing into the neighbor's yard).

Rodney

    Bookmark   June 8, 2014 at 1:33PM
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pd0xgard_

O, ok. It's actually about 4-5 plants I think. They were sprouting in clumps in the compost pile (in the background of the photo above), and it was hard to thin them out initally. So I picked out 4-5 clumps and set them about 10-12 inches apart. So there's probably about 4-5 actual plants there. So excited, a few years ago I got a 22 lb pumpkin when the compost had pumpkin babies the first time ;) Hopefully I'll get a few this time around as well. I've never really fertilized, or learned the proper watering technique/amounts, besides watering the ground, and trying to keep the foliage dry. I have a feeling I water too often (once or every other day when it's over 80F).

    Bookmark   June 8, 2014 at 1:51PM
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AiliDeSpain(6a - Utah)

Sometimes the bottom leaves will yellow due to age. How old are the plants?

    Bookmark   June 7, 2014 at 10:44PM
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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

Numerous potential reasons.
Need pictures please.

    Bookmark   June 8, 2014 at 1:02PM
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tcstoehr

Looks like a Crane Fly. I don't think of them as any sort of problem, although they do have subterranean larvae that in large numbers can be problematic in lawns. In any case, I doubt they cause any problem in your veg garden. I don't think they even eat anything as adults.

    Bookmark   June 7, 2014 at 8:55PM
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lkzz(7b)

I vote crane fly.
Should not be a danger - adults mate and die - don't even eat.

Adult
The main goal of the adult crane fly in the spring is mating. During the adult stage, the crane fly does not eat. For the short 10- to 15-day period, the adults mate on plants or in the air near the water. Afterwards, the female deposits her eggs. When mating and egg distribution is complete, female dies. The male only lives up to 15 days as well.

It is true that the early stages of the creature's development can be a lawn problem: http://lakewhatcom.wsu.edu/gardenkit/unwantedpests/cranefly.htm

Here is a link that might be useful: THE LIFESPAN OF A CRANE FLY

    Bookmark   June 8, 2014 at 12:02PM
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writersblock(9b/10a)

ditto to what CaraRose said. Here in FL wild ground cherry looks like this:

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not like thirstydirt's photo.

    Bookmark   June 8, 2014 at 12:32AM
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missingtheobvious(Blue Ridge 7a)

Our local wild ground cherries look exactly like Thirsty Dirt's photo.

Check online for photos of tomatillo and ground cherry flowers, which IIRC are very different.

    Bookmark   June 8, 2014 at 12:42AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Do they have organic potting mix?

Yes, many brands of it available. And the existence of fungus growths like toadstools and such is considered beneficial, normal, desirable.

Trying to garden organically in containers has its own set of problems to overcome since it is totally different from gardening organically in the ground where a soil food web exists to provide nutrients. But the 'mushrooms' isn't one of them.

Dave

    Bookmark   June 7, 2014 at 3:55PM
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sneed(7)

What type of problems?

    Bookmark   June 7, 2014 at 10:17PM
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lkzz(7b)

Agree...slugs.
I have a few visit but not overwhelming so I ignore.
I would deter them until your plants get some height and vigor.

    Bookmark   June 7, 2014 at 9:09AM
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tracydr(9b)

I've found pill worms love bean seedlings. Try Sluggo plus if you have them.

    Bookmark   June 7, 2014 at 9:58PM
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brookekirchner

Thank you I will add those to the list! I'm using a planting calendar from the state of Arizona for when I'll plant the different vegetables

    Bookmark   June 7, 2014 at 11:21AM
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tracydr(9b)

I have an area just like this. I have it planted in flowers but I also plant chard, kale and cherry tomatoes, plus a native chiltepan pepper.
We use the chiltepan peppers dry and crushed in a pepper grinder in place of pizza red pepper flakes.
My chard seeded itself this year from last spring.
In this area is also some Parsley, basil and hyacinth beans, plus some bulking flowers and tropicals.
I've had huge crops of Armenian cucumbers and squash in this area, too.
Also, during cooler seasons I plant salad veggies like lettuce, spinach and radishes in my shadier spots. Cowpeas will do okay but better in sun.

    Bookmark   June 7, 2014 at 9:54PM
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farmerdill

normal for emergance. Subsequent growth will more uniform green.

    Bookmark   June 7, 2014 at 8:23AM
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mav72(10b)

I grew some last year from some five year old beans that my mom grew. The first leaves on mine looked exactly like yours and I was paranoid that they had some sort of disease but they turned out normal...

    Bookmark   June 7, 2014 at 8:03PM
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galinas(5B)

I found this link very helpful for our Zone 5 planting:

Here is a link that might be useful: PLANTING CALENDAR

    Bookmark   June 7, 2014 at 1:15PM
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nugrdnnut(6a n-c WA)

galinas... tim does a very good job with his garden. I've shared that link on GW to help some folks out with their intensive gardening strategies!

This post was edited by nugrdnnut on Sat, Jun 7, 14 at 17:43

    Bookmark   June 7, 2014 at 5:03PM
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