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I am assuming this was supposed to be posted in your original post? Need to keep it all together for information and clarity so the link to your original post is below. Next time you can just add this to your original rather than starting a new one. :)
Dave
Here is a link that might be useful: Your original post

I too would guess moisture fluctuations as the most likely cause. Eggplants are a little slow to root and establish when nights are cool (as I imagine they are - where do you live, btw? I'm near Saskatoon). Maintain even moisture - not too wet and not too dry.
As for lower leaves that senesce, they wilt naturally before falling off.
What variety is it? Most of the Asian varieties especially the new hybrids will mature quickly - a 6 week picking period is standard around here, and it can be extended to 10 weeks with some babying.


Thanks again, both of you. It's so aggravating that there aren't any farmers' markets around here that have melons (I don't believe I've ever seen a melon other than watermelon at either of our local markets) that I could buy to try.

what they all said... but to clarify.. simplify.. i hope ...
a plant in the wild has ONLY ONE goal ... to reproduce ... produce seed ... and if the fruit/veg itself rots where it lays.. all it is doing .. is composting the seed produced ... with me so far ..
a gardener... has no need for seed ... their goal is large pretty produce ... and that is not accomplished.. by letting them lay on the ground ... due to the potential of bugs and diseases mentioned above
easy peasy ... lol.. see what i did there ... its veg related.. lol ..
do NOT confuse industrial production as one above noted ... because ... again.. their goal is different ... near napoleon OH is the campbells soup factory that makes its famous tomato soup ... for lots of miles around... all you see is T fields... and in season.. giant semi dump trucks filled with Ts ... i often wonder how they arent all crushed by the time they get their.. from their own weight piled 8 or 10 foot high ... [probably because they are picked while still rather hard]
the point being.. they arent trying to produce a grocery store perfect T..
you can try going all nature in your process ... all the power to ya .... but i would suggest ... you plant say 3 plants.. stake one.. cage one.. and let one lie ...
i learned more by experimenting.. than i ever did from a book/WWW .. especially since we didnt have the WWW back them ....
good luck
ken

The idea is to keep the stems/vines and especially the fruit off the ground. Tomatoes will reach 6-feet in stem/vine length. Cherry tomatoes a lot more. If you didn't support them, they'd be crawling on the ground, even before tomatoes formed, and certainly afterwards. They might produce down there, but keeping fruit in the dirt from decaying would be hard, and you'd waste a load of growing space.
Of course, since the whole purpose of a plant, to that plant,
is to produce more plants, it's pretty sensible to have the fruit laying on the ground! That purpose isn't served by supporting the fruit. Since the purpose of the plant to us, is to harvest clean and flawless fruit, not so much the case, and plant support makes a lot of sense.

Wow. That is exciting to see all that fruit this early in zone 5. I am starting to get jalapenos, but my eggplants are just barely starting to set fruit.
What is your recommendation for an early and reliable tomato? I have lots of green ones, but nothing is starting to turn yet. I was hoping Earliana and Buckabee 50 would beat July 4th, but it isn't going to happen.
Here is a link that might be useful: My garden blog

This year Sweet 100 gave me some red ones already, like 6-7 of them from 2 bushes, not more. Last year I had first 4th of July ready by June 29, but this year they are not ready at all yet. I also like Jetsetter - it is not ready by July 4th, but by 15th usually you can start picking them. I am still researching tomatoes, because 4th of July is only sold by Burpee and too expensive, and Jetsetter sometimes gets sick - last year lost a plant in a very beginning of the season due to bacterial cancer. Had to remove the whole bush to save others. This spring was very late and cold, I usually transplant my tomatoes by May 9. This year it was May 25. May be this is why they are not ready yet.



Snip off the worst, try some fungicide, and try to water from underneath. My cucumbers had this last year, and for some crazy reason they didn't die until the end of the summer! I've seen pictures of some other gardeners' and mine never got that bad, it only affected the leaves. My plants were hideous, but they kept producing, which makes me think it may have been a different strain of downy mildew? I had a ton of huge cukes. This year I started spraying since the first pointed leaves appeared...there are a few spots, but I hope those are just bugs.

Ohhh Nancy, I have to share my turkey story: A coworker of mine was selling his dark blue Mercedes. Had it detailed and polished to a mirror shine. Then because he didn't want it touched, he passed on the parking lot and parked it near open space surrounding our office.
Yep....you know where I'm going with this....the turkeys happened upon it, surrounded the car, saw "that rival gang of turkeys" in their reflection and pecked a turkey-high ring around the entire car. We all learned about it when he was on the phone explaining what happened to his insurance company. You've never seen so many people with tears rolling down their eyes, trying to stifle the laughter.

I heard someone on TV the other day state that squash vine borers stop laying eggs after the 4th of July. So if you can hang on for another two days . . .
Of course, this assumes the TV woman knows what she's talking about. Sometimes that's a stretch. ;-)

I hear ya. The weather person has as much chance of being wrong as right in our neck of the woods too. lol
Ok, well I do hope that is the case with the SVBM. We've had an unusually large number of birds in the yard. Robins seem to have nested nearby and I counted about 7 adolescents yesterday. Then a flock of starlings, and a pair of catbirds. They all seem to be very interested in the vegetable beds. Flying in and out of the beds with squash in them, so I am hoping they are finding bugs to eat.
I don't even have a feeder up, because I didn't want to attract squirrels. I do have a number of shrubs that fruit is developing on and I think they are here in anticipation of a feast. And I seem to remember reading that birds that are fruit eaters, also eat insects. So this has been an interesting development this year.


Right you are Dave, as I said, every situation is different and it's up to the individual to determine what is right. In my case, I find it helpful, in others, it can be harmful. I don't prescribe to a one size fits all approach and never will.
Course, based on yours and Lori 's comments, the author of the question seems to not care one way or the other so, either way, oh well.


I dunno, but if it were me I'd fry it up and eat it while it were bicolored just out of curiosity! lol :D
Mosaic virus looks like the squash has blisters to me; I wouldn't say that.
If you got them from someone, the person probably grows yellow squash & zucchini, and didn't keep them far enough apart. To me, I'd bet that they just got cross pollinated.
Should be fine to eat if that's the case. If you got from the big company, like Burpee, mislabeling is a possibility, but frankly... I've never seen a summer squash they've sold that looks like THAT. And cross pollination is unlikely there, since they keep their plants so far apart to avoid just that. It would be a very rare possibility, but it MIGHT happen.
If you did get it from a big company like that, my next thought would be pesticides.