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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Caterpillars don't lay eggs, the butterflies do and then they become caterpillars.
So what you see is just poop. hehe

    Bookmark     June 27, 2014 at 4:25AM
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squishsquash(07)

I know!! I thought the caterpillar I saw was a result of an egg hatching!
I pluck off all of the eggs from the kind that eat the basil and parsley (the butterflies are black/blue and beautiful and make a pretty darned cool looking caterpillar). Those hatch and turn into little suckers quickly! I just thought this was some unknown version!

    Bookmark     June 27, 2014 at 6:34AM
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squishsquash(07)

Maybe a Lebanese type?

    Bookmark     June 26, 2014 at 8:04PM
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elisa_z5

looks like Lebanese to me.

    Bookmark     June 26, 2014 at 11:14PM
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cold_weather_is_evil(9)

The only purpose to hilling potato plants in a garden setting is to keep the sun off the tubers. That means nearly anything goes, from dirt to straw to leaves to a pink doily. If you see potatoes, you're already behind.

    Bookmark     June 26, 2014 at 1:30AM
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jimmy56_gw (zone 6 PA)

Should have mention that I also side dress mine with 10-10-10 fertilizer before hilling the second time.

    Bookmark     June 26, 2014 at 9:29PM
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Slimy_Okra(2b)

It's funny you say that tulle tears easily. For me, it's exactly the opposite. Tulle and similar materials let the wind through, whereas row covers (especially AG-15) can rip very easily if they are too taut. Too saggy and they don't let rain in properly. However, small aphids can penetrate tulle but not row cover.

    Bookmark     June 26, 2014 at 7:27PM
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tishtoshnm Zone 6/NM

It does work. I used some over dino kale last year that was interplanted with eggplant and both plants did remarkably well. It was nice not rinsing aphids out of all the crevices. When things do get aphids, when I harvest, I often soak in a bowl of water first and that helps to loosen many.

Here is the big caution though, if you over time end up with aphids under the cover, take the cover off, even if there are lady bugs in there too. The aphids will proliferate and the lady bugs cannot keep up.

    Bookmark     June 26, 2014 at 8:36PM
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Slimy_Okra(2b)

Cut them off (although it sounds more like they became overmature).

    Bookmark     June 26, 2014 at 7:24PM
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mdy113

they are not over mature, they are only 2-3 inches long at moment and just starting out. i usually cut em off when they get about 8-9 inches. they were fine in the morning, just must have missed the plant watering when i left for work. just dont know if the lack of water affected the fruit and if it will return to normal. i guess i will see next few hours

    Bookmark     June 26, 2014 at 7:28PM
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catherinet(5 IN)

Here's a clickable link.

Here is a link that might be useful: foldable trellis

    Bookmark     June 26, 2014 at 7:19PM
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catherinet(5 IN)

I think the slope is probably okay, but I'm not sure the cucs' tendrils will hold on to wood slats. You might need to put some wire fencing or netting over the trellises. And you would want the openings to be at least big enough so your hand can fit through.

    Bookmark     June 26, 2014 at 7:22PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

O ! I forgot to mention corn. First I had to deal with squirrels, digging the seeds. Then because of small quantity/space they did not bear enough ears. And when they did, they were selling at 4 for a Dollar at the sore which were far better than mine.

    Bookmark     June 26, 2014 at 11:35AM
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Ali Eggenburg Alldredge

I am not growing squash at home because of squash bugs. I am hoping a year off will cut the population enough to try again next year.

Here is a link that might be useful: My garden blog

    Bookmark     June 26, 2014 at 5:27PM
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socks

It looks quite harmless on the MSDS.

I've used it for years to spot clothing. It just seems those sprays and other spot removers don't work well. I wet the bar, wet the spot, rub the bar in and scrub a bit by rubbing together with my hands. Let sit a few minutes, then put in the washing machine. Might not be good to let it sit too long. Spots almost always come out.

    Bookmark     June 25, 2014 at 7:16PM
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AngZ

@ Dave: "known carcinogen" are you positive on this?

I just started using a Fels Naptha based spray for my aphid problem on veggie plants so I really hope this isn't accurate.

I did google around and found that Naptha is NOT the same as Napthalene (moth balls) which IS a carcinogen. However Wikipedia states that some forms of Naptha MAY contain carcingogens. The wikipedia for Fels Naptha states that it only really contains some irritants.

I could not find any source outside of random forums stating that Fels Naptha specifically contains carcinogens.

    Bookmark     June 26, 2014 at 3:11PM
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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

The ratio of male to female flowers vary. Don't be surprised if all the ones you currently see turn out to be all male.

Rodney

    Bookmark     June 26, 2014 at 2:35PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Buds can be at different stages. And may take a week to bloom. Then if the flower is pollinated, you will see a growing zuke in 3 days or so. If not pollinated it will shrivel and die. So from pollinated flower to harvestibe zuke can take about a week, if you want it to be tender.

    Bookmark     June 26, 2014 at 2:42PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Slugo ? does slug bait kill earwigs ? I am not sure about that.

    Bookmark     June 26, 2014 at 11:42AM
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howelbama(7 NJ)

Sluggo PLUS does seysonn.... It is sluggo with spinosad added to it.

    Bookmark     June 26, 2014 at 12:46PM
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springtogarden(6)

I ordered some of that velcro. Has excellent reviews. I am going to use nylons and shirts for slings for the developing fruit. Thanks again everyone and happy gardening :)!

    Bookmark     June 26, 2014 at 3:47AM
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sleevendog (5a NY)

I like the velcro. The quality is not so great but you end up getting more lenght for your money than regular velcro. TomatoGrowerSupply had a better quality that lasted for years and eventually broke down...but no longer have it. The thinner stuff looses its grip pretty quickly so you will want longer lengths so it overlaps more.
The nice thing, once you find a standard size like 8-10 inches, you can pre-cut an extra dozen or so and attach them to your support system so they are handy right next to your plants. And as your plants grow, you can easily move them to other locations on the plant.

I also use the green stretchy non-sticky tape. I like the extra support when the toms get so big. Panty hose works great...but i would have to get white and dye it green like someone posted...looks too much like an underwear drawer.
I always think that an absorbent fabric like t-shirt strips might stay too wet in my damp climate...

    Bookmark     June 26, 2014 at 10:59AM
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loribee2(CA 9)

I've seen rainbows of aphids: white, black, red, gray and green. Yes, those are definitely aphids.

    Bookmark     June 25, 2014 at 11:23PM
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springtogarden(6)

I agree, aphids. I have seen all kinds of colors of these pests. They can be really tiny but they get to a pretty descent size like yours in the picture.

    Bookmark     June 26, 2014 at 1:24AM
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Slimy_Okra(2b)

Definitely a tomatillo. Ground cherry plants tend to have more fuzzy leaves.

    Bookmark     June 25, 2014 at 9:24PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Tomatillo, 100%

    Bookmark     June 25, 2014 at 11:50PM
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marti8a(8a TX)

Pollination? I don't know. I've got 6 vines in a row, all seeds from the same package. I don't know what they would pollinate with to make this cuke. Next to them are tomatoes, then okra, green beans, peppers, and blackeye peas.

    Bookmark     June 25, 2014 at 11:27PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

That is very normal, to me. A lots of Asian varieties grow like that (crooked) if not hanging down. I bet it tastes good.

    Bookmark     June 25, 2014 at 11:48PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Sorry but I thought several replies covered all the possible options in your previous post of this question. I seem to recall some posted links in that thread to other discussions that seemed to indicate that no such thing by the name existed, right?

I know from my own search that none of the heirloom seed companies have any info on anything by that name. Neither do any of the southern-based seed companies although the odds are it was one of the many filed pea or southern pea varieties.

Perhaps it was just a family name for a variety like Grandma Bittick's Cornfield Shortcut pea or Thompson's Telephone Pole peas?

Google pulls up lots of info on cabbage with peas that are called sometimes called cabbage peas but the peas themselves are just regular green spring peas. And if Google can't find anything about them it is pretty much a lost item. :)

Linked one other discussion about them below that suggests contact some southern feed stores and ask if anyone there remembers what their real name was.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Cabbage peas discussions

    Bookmark     June 25, 2014 at 6:19PM
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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

Is it possible that your "cabbage peas" might actually be Bush White Acre? I did a Google search for "small green field pea" and came across this site: Looking for a Family Heirloom: A Field Pea from Florida

I also found a couple websites when I searched "cabbage pea seed" where people are looking for cabbage peas which may or may not be of help.
Cabbage peas elusive
Cabbage Pea

And this article is from the St. Augustine Record (a Florida newspaper) has a photo of some cream and green colored peas mixed together in a bag. White Acre Peas

Rodney

This post was edited by theforgottenone1013 on Wed, Jun 25, 14 at 19:09

    Bookmark     June 25, 2014 at 7:01PM
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