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floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK

Just for clarification if you didn't follow the link, Velvet leaf is Abutilon theophrasti.

    Bookmark     June 14, 2014 at 4:50AM
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wayne_5 zone 6a Central Indiana

Velvet leaf used to be called butterprint here. The seed pods make a distinctive radial pattern that was imprinted on butter.

    Bookmark     June 14, 2014 at 12:35PM
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mav72(10b)

Yea, I usually wait for the plant to dry up before collecting seeds...

It doesn't get too cold here during winter and I've seen people plant bok choy in the fall... Insects and bolting are too problematic here late spring and summer. Have you played with planting times, growing a few plants at different times of the year?

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 7:54PM
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SunshineZone7(7)

Thank you! I will just leave a plant or 2 for seeds and pull the rest. I thought I started them both early enough. It was the beginning of March right before a big snow. They started to come up and then bolted right away! I have more success in the fall for sure.

    Bookmark     June 14, 2014 at 9:31AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Birds. They make the V-shaped bites like that when catching the bugs that land on the leaves. Put some cage type protection over them.\ and add some garlic to your soapy spray Normally not any real threat to the plants.

Dave

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 10:10PM
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mav72(10b)

I agree on birds...Do you have chickens? I had a chicken when I was a kid and it loved to eat our pepper plants with similar damage...

    Bookmark     June 14, 2014 at 6:07AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

If you were expecting the texture of a head of iceberg lettuce then no leaf lettuce variety will provide that.

Dave

    Bookmark     June 9, 2014 at 4:07PM
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ccabal(7)

Catherinet,
I really suggest planting from seed. Forget planting from transplants, just doesnt make sense with lettuce. Lettuce is one of the easiest plants to grow, as long as the temps are not too hot.
From seed, watered well, mild temps, and it good soil, you should have no problem.

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 11:41PM
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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

Or different kinds of plants
Please post picture of each one.

Where do you live?

This post was edited by jean001a on Fri, Jun 13, 14 at 20:33

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 8:32PM
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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

Maybe the large one was planted in amended soil or just better soil. Maybe it gets more water somehow or more light. They could be the same variety, a different variety, or one (or both) could be from seed. There are a lot of factors that affect size. And it's impossible to say which specific one it is unless they are growing next to each other under the same conditions.

I do know that rhubarb started from seed has a ton of natural variation. I've got 37 seedlings that I started earlier this year. Some have red stalks, some have green, there's one that is almost a yellow, and there are major size differences among them. They've all received the same care so nothing else but genetics can account for these differences.

Rodney

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 8:40PM
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ohjuniper

Lol sorry I jus5 saw all the other squash threads, I guess it's a common occurrence

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 7:23PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Yup, it is. :)

Dave

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 8:04PM
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mav72(10b)

Hi.. I guess you can carefully work some in the soil since thats your first flower and there are no peanuts developing... Just be careful of the roots... I usually prep my soil first before I plant.

Since peanuts are legumes, I'm guessig they may not be heavy feeders. So do they need it? I'm not sure.... I just do it anyway..... I do know beans need it when young...

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 7:29PM
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sunnibel7 Md 7(7)

I don't see bug at all, but either an immature mulberry or maybe a dropped catkin from some sort of tree?

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 9:55AM
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blrhudugi

very interesting, this is a picture I posted on FB and it came on here with someone else looking for what it is. I know it is my picture because of the Longwood Gardens background paper.

Anyways, the bug has been identified as the pupal stage of an European Rhinoceros Beetle. I got answers as well as found some pictures of it on the web.

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 7:05PM
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aftermidnight Zone7b B.C. Canada

Could they be the same as the Dwarf Grey Sugar Pea?

Annette

Here is a link that might be useful: Dwarf Grey Sugar/Cabbage Pea

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 4:48PM
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bamagene

don't believe this is the ones I am hunting. Thanks

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 5:49PM
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rattle73

OK thanks

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 1:11PM
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catherinet(5 IN)

Good advice Rodney.

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 4:06PM
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yolos - z 7b/8a Ga.

Loribee, are the openings in the rabbit fencing big enough to get your hand thru the fence. I am using nylon trellis because, as you said, the cattle panels are too big to fit in anything but a truck. Here is another trellis for rattlesnake beans. I need a wide enough opening to get my hands into the middle trellis.

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 2:57PM
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loribee2(CA 9)

Openings in rabbit fencing are 2" X 4". I can get my hand through, but you can't really pull anything back through it, like tomatoes. They would only be suitable for trellises that are one thickness deep or arches, etc.

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 3:31PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Please see this discussion about this question from a bit further down the page.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Squash volunteer

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 11:45AM
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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

"Is it possible for those two types of yellow squash to cross-pollinate? If so, then what would I call these?"

They have certainly cross-pollinated. You can call them whatever you like as long as the name isn't already taken. It's your own variety of squash. If you keep them from being pollinated by another variety and save the seeds, you can grow them again. Next year there's a possibility they will be even more variable but through careful breeding/selection and several years you might be able to stabilize the traits.

Rodney

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 12:28PM
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daninthedirt(Cent TX; HZ10, Sunset z30, USDA z8a)

Well, formally, mine were sugar snap, and not snow peas. I often consider them equivalent, but they really aren't. Sugar snaps are sweeter. Mine were Super Sugar Snap this year. Last year they were regular Sugar Snap. Both grew to 6-foot height, just like the seed catalogs said they would. But yes, it looks like real Snow Peas aren't supposed to get that tall.

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 10:34AM
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catherinet(5 IN)

I'm not sure what they were. I sometimes use left-over ones from the year before. I think I should have supported them once they reached 4'. The ones that got bent over aren't doing so well. Every year ican be so different for all the veggies!

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 12:22PM
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glib(5.5)

it is probably voles. I found that, if you have raised beds, it is easy to find them. Their tunnels run parallel to the sides. If your soil is soft enough you can punch a hole with your finger, drop some warfarin laced stuff, and close.

To minimize all this, I keep a large pile of leaves at a distant place from my garden, and I try to minimize winter mulch. The con is that come June you are laboriously mulching around half-sized plants, but mulch attracts them specially in late Fall, when they are trying to establish a home for the winter.

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 11:18AM
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catherinet(5 IN)

Thanks everyone.
We live in the middle of woods, and are very familiar with them in the house. :( They love our crawl space and its a constant battle. We also discovered that they were getting in the tiny cracks in our exterior chimney. We had tons of them, until we patched that up and their numbers dropped almost to zero........but I had to wash everything in our kitchen....everything!

The ones in the garden are dark, and look like mice......but I'm not certain. We cleaned up the garden last Fall and I left the gate open.......to make it easier on cats to go in there if they wanted to. I haven't seen any yet this year.......but something bit off some of the snow peas at the bottom.

There's always somethin', right?

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 12:18PM
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laceyvail(6A, WV)

A few years ago I read an article in an old (20 plus years I think) Organic Gardening about cutting the tip of butternuts to keep the vine small; I belive this was before good bush varieties were developed.

I have trouble with squash bugs, so this technique increased the likelihood that I'd be able to patrol the plant, checking under every leaf. Since then, it's worked quite well. I wait until I have plenty of fruit set, then twice a week i patrol for eggs and pinch tips at the same time.

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 6:48AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Only reason I do is to keep the plant somewhat contained not because the plant couldn't support the fruit. If the plant can't support the fruit it will abort them anyway.

Dave

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 11:43AM
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