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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

Most likely edema, sometimes spelled oedema.

If so, physiological response to high humidity and moist soil Not a problem

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peggyhamill(5a)

Thanks a million. That seems to be just what it is. I will try to water a bit less. I forgot to mention that this is in a greenhouse.

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planatus(6)

Peter, you will get only one harvest season from the plants. I start seeds the first week of June for harvest in Oct and Nov.

Spring seedlings "blast" in midsummer due to hot weather and there is nothing to harvest -- waste of time and space.

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Peter1142(Zone 6b)

As I said, the idea was to try and get to harvest before the midsummer heat, by using an 80 day variety and starting indoors well ahead of time. We'll see if I will try, only if I have the extra space.

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galinas(5B)

Where do you get your transplants? Do you buy them or grow from seeds? I start mine inside in the beginning of Murch or even in end of February. They usually about 1.5-2.0 ' tall and flower by mid May when I transplant them. So they need about 2.5 month in ideal condition to start blooming(and this is for EARLY varsities, like 60-70 days ones). If you buy you plants couple inches tall, they may have not enough time, especially if they are not early ones...Also try to see if the light is sufficient. When light is low, they can grow tall, but not set blossoms...

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laceyvail(6A, WV)

I long ago gave up on bells because they never produced much. Corno di Toro peppers are not shaped like bells, but taste just like them. They are prolific and bear very early.

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glib(5.5)

till them so the bacteria are injected, and BW roots get chopped. They are very distinctive, black outside, yellow wood. IME it is only near big roots that juglone lasts.

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RedSun (Zone 6, NJ)

I dug the soil closest to the stump, about 2' deep. Then I dug the trenches to plant the crowns. I'll leave the trench open for the winter and plant the crowns next spring.

I only found a couple of large roots, about 1/2" diameter. They grow at the top 1' of the soil.....

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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

Low sunlight & chilly temperatures are likely to be the problem, or much of it.

Beyond that, a picture is worth 1000s of words. Please upload one.
If you're not able, perhaps a friend or relative can help.

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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

Could be what Jean mentioned and with the cold and low light, you likely won't get much the rest of the year. Even down here where the day temps are great, it's just too cold at night for much production. I've already started pulling some of my peppers because I know there's nothing left in them as it gets cooler.

But... the shriveling could be a sign that the compost is tainted with herbicide. You may want to test it with a link that Jean gave me once. And like she said, a pic speaks loudly.

Kevin

Here is a link that might be useful: WSU bioassay for herbicide in compost

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NewTXGardener (8a Dallas)

Thank you thank you!! I will harden them first before transplanting, thanks for the suggestion. This is my first year planting, I'm very very new and need a lot of help! ;-)

I sowed a few broccolini and spinach seeds, not expecting much, and then all of a sudden, seedlings were emerging, just right before another freeze. I covered them up, and they continued to grow. Hope they will grow up.

I'll put some carrot seeds down after I till my raised bed. Thank you guys!!

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garybeaumont_gw(TX 9A)

Carrots will take a while to come up. It could take a month or more in cold soils. The spring planting date for Beaumont, Texas is Jan. 15 to Feb. 15. Your planting date would be about 2 weeks later I would think (Feb 1 to March1). If you plant earlier the seeds will probably just sit there. I have have planted in the fall and they came up but the plants did not produce until early spring.

You would want to plant spinach on 2 to 3 week intervals to give you a continuous supply. Spinach seeding dates are about 2 weeks earlier than carrots.

A good reference for Texas vegetable gardeners is The Vegetable Book by Dr. Sam Cotner. You can buy it new on the Texas Gardener website for $34 which includes postage and tax. Neil Sperry's Complete Guide to Texas Gardening is also good. You can get it used for about $4 from Abebooks.com. Make sure it is the second edition. It covers all aspects of Texas gardening, not just vegetables.

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RedSun (Zone 6, NJ)

There are still quite a few sources to ship in early winter. The ground won't be frozen for the next 2-3 weeks. I just do not know if the gains out-weight the potential risk, if any. Or both would be minimal....

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Peter1142(Zone 6b)

Considering you won't be able to harvest any until at least Spring 2016 either way, I'd suggest waiting until Spring. I planted mine in the Spring in NY and they did great.

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tishtoshnm Zone 6/NM

Once the potatoes closest to the surface warmed some, many were definitely on the mushy side so those are compost now. Thank you for the help. I am looking forward to eating some of the good ones in rendered duck fat. Simple pleasures.

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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

When a potato freezes and then thawed it will be quite mushy. Because the starch in it is decomposed due to enzyme activity. That is the reason for blanching vegetable prior to freezing to prevent getting mushy after it is thawed. It is easy to tell. Sometimes half of a potato near the surface might freeze but lower half is ok. Just cut off and discard the frozen/mushy part.

Seysonn

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pnbrown

Also, please understand that bolting is not the "end" of the plant. In your climate brassica plants can live and produce for years. 3 or 4 easily, probably more. It would be more accurate to describe it as the beginning of the process.

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jctsai8b(8B)

Leave some to keep on growing for seeds.

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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

Must locate what is doing that before considering what to do.
An image will help us gather a few clues.

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NHBabs(4b-5aNH)

The one time I had issues with holes in my sweet potato leaves, it was due to the golden tortoise beetle, Charidotella bicolor. It is a beautiful bug and looks like it's really made of metal (like the second photo in the link below, not the first) but I was heartless and squished it anyway.

Here is a link that might be useful: golden tortoise beetle

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pnbrown

I have lost potato onion sets to freezing in two attempts here in z7. I would suggest put the flat outside and cover it with a foot or so of leaves or hay, uncover and plant out in early spring.

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Farmington

Thank's Ken. I have one brussel sprout and all the leaves are totally with holes like they bombed Nagasaki. Will this plant die? Or i'll just leave them alone and keep looking for the green meanies.?

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laceyvail(6A, WV)

Next year cover all your cole crops with row covers as soon as they germinate; if the butterfly can't lay the eggs, you won't get any worms. works great and I've been doing it for years.

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rhizo_1 (North AL) zone 7

Snow is not a problem....sub-freezing temperatures are, or cold plus wind. Snow can be a great insulator, as a matter of fact.

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elisa_z5

Yep --we eat kale flowers and arugula flowers, mustard too -- really any brassica flowers, stems, buds, seed pods are all very tasty raw in salad or cooked. Nice to know you haven't let the brassicas go to "waste" just because you couldn't get to them before they bolted.

Radishes are also a brassica -- and if you let them bolt (they can get huge) and develop seed pods, the seed pods are quite a delicacy in salads.

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Farmington

I have 2 question for chinese kale (gailan)specifically.
(1) it's november fall season I planted chinese kale, they are 4 inches tall and flowers are appearing. Did they BOLT(meaning the end of the growing season for the plant?) or are they part of it as they grow. Anybody please give me an advise.
(2) How do you harvest them properly in order to last until late spring.?

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