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ZachS. z5 Littleton, CO

"Weed to others" is right. In the US burdock is an invasive and noxious species, then again so is mullein but that doesn't stop people from growing it.

    Bookmark     May 12, 2015 at 9:05PM
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jbb3710web

Thanks everyone! Burdock has been dug up!

    Bookmark     May 13, 2015 at 5:29AM
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Nitsua(6b MO)

fadiver ... That's a UK expression, not an autocorrect issue - slang term for 'a very long time'.
Donkey's Years

    Bookmark     May 12, 2015 at 11:18PM
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FADiver (7B, eastern Virginia)

Oh, haha! I assumed floral meant to type "dozens of" and it corrected to "donkeys".

    Bookmark     May 13, 2015 at 4:01AM
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jimmy56_gw (zone 6 PA)

I grow the same here also, Just like Dave said, Mine really started breaking ground the last few days with all this warm temps we been having, When they get about 6 inches high then cover with dirt then repeat.

    Bookmark     May 12, 2015 at 6:09PM
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wayne_5 zone 6a Central Indiana

Some potato pieces sprout about 8 shoots...too many skinny ones in a crowd for best results unless you like small potatoes. I suggest leaving 4 stalks per piece. I try to plant them a little deeper to start with and don't need to hill so high. They like cooler soil than here in central Indiana and high hilling dries out faster.

    Bookmark     May 12, 2015 at 7:03PM
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LoneJack Zn 6a, KC

You are welcome. Good to know you won't be relying on these transplants to get your cucs! Good luck and stick around. There are some really knowledgeable gardeners on Gardenweb that have helped me a lot the last several years as my gardening went from a minor hobby to a MAJOR obsession.

1 Like    Bookmark     May 12, 2015 at 11:39AM
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shoegaze99

I'll for sure be sticking around. I've been reading the forums for the last month or two and have found them very helpful so far. I look forward to being a more active part of the community now that I've officially started posting. Everyone here seems great.

    Bookmark     May 12, 2015 at 12:32PM
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Lydia Monroe: Landscape Design and Consulting

This is one of the planters in a large vegetable garden on a private estate in So Cal. The client has major wildlife issues: deer, coyote, squirrel, rabbits, birds, gophers.... Lots of things were tried until the solution pictured above was put into place. Although it is a bit cumbersome- it works and is fairly invisible at a short distance.

The planters are constructed of dry stacked round stones. Beds are lined with 1" wire mesh for gopher prevention that wraps up sides of planters and bends out between the top courses of rock. Above ground critters are are successfully kept out with a metal stakes in edges of beds that have hooks welded onto the outer top edges. 1/2 inch heavy gage bird mesh: ( https://www.birdbgone.com/products/bird-netting/garden-netting-products.html ) hooks onto the stakes via Garden Netting Clips attached to net.. Not all beds have mesh over top- only crops where birds are a problem. Caretakers can easily unhook mesh to care for plants.

    Bookmark     May 12, 2015 at 8:54AM
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Lydia Monroe: Landscape Design and Consulting

also...where rabbits are getting in under the net...you can either use large ground staples or run the metal stakes on the outside of the beds into the ground and then net them.

    Bookmark     May 12, 2015 at 8:57AM
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lucillle

"Chemicals that are applied by label directions are safe"

So very VERY not true. DDT, Diazinon, all sorts of insecticides were taken off the market AFTER years of use. There is much we do not know about chemicals, some are safe when used correctly, some are not, some we won't realize the damage done for years to us and to our families.
I'm not by any means putting down the good that some chemicals can do. But to believe that they are all safe when used according to label directions is naive.

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Sarah Wadleigh

Living next to a cornfield is way different than having neighbors that use Roundup. On a farm, the herbicide is applied from above and will definitely drift onto your property. Especially because you want to grow organically, this location is not ideal. My husband and I are in the same boat. Looking for a place where we can keep bees and grow organically. Sad that we live in such a toxic world.

    Bookmark     May 12, 2015 at 8:48AM
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floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK

A rhubarb crown is one plant putting out many stalks. If you have a vigorous type and rhubarb friendly conditions a 28 inch container would barely hold one plant. But in less rhubarb friendly places it might be big enough.

    Bookmark     May 12, 2015 at 6:33AM
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rhizo_1 (North AL) zone 7

I agree with Dave.

    Bookmark     May 11, 2015 at 7:46PM
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vp_78

Thank you! :)

    Bookmark     May 11, 2015 at 8:56PM
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Peter (6b SE NY)

Based on my experience, I disagree. I have (stupidly) put out small unhardened off seedlings out in the cold, only frost turned anything to goo.

    Bookmark     May 9, 2015 at 5:23AM
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Miss_Moose (Winnipeg, Canda. Zone 2)

almost lost my plants last night, it was 39*F felt like freezing with the wind chill but they were covered with a plastic and wood greenhouse. Bright them in tonight, true temp without breeze is freezing. :S Tomatoes in my pots had one foot in the grave. They're doing much better now that they've warmed up inside.

    Bookmark     May 11, 2015 at 5:52PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Here you go, hundreds of pics of various bamboo trellis set-ups.

bamboo trellis for beans pics

    Bookmark     May 11, 2015 at 9:55AM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

We do ours in more of a V shape rather than the typical ^ shape (I'll try to post a pic tomorrow). That way you don't have to crawl in the teepee with all the spiders (of course, if you have kids I'm sure they would love that!). They just hang down the outer sides of the bed for the picking. It also leaves room on the outer edges of the bed to plant something noninvasive. I usually do some extra basil. Nancy

    Bookmark     May 11, 2015 at 5:37PM
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daninthedirt(Cent TX; HZ10, Sunset z30, USDA z8a)

They do look pretty ratty, and I agree that direct seed is the way to go. But just out of curiosity, you might want to trim and transplant next to your seeds. See who wins.

    Bookmark     May 11, 2015 at 2:42PM Thanked by purplehouse
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Gardeners in colder climates can start seeds indoors and if you choose short-season varieties you can increase your chances of getting some production. What variety did you order? Days to maturity range from 70 to 90, even 120 days so by planting say Blacktail Mountain or Gold Midget (70 days) you can improve your odds substantially.

Dave

    Bookmark     May 11, 2015 at 4:19PM
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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

Adding gypsum is the remedy for soil with excess sodium.

The gardener can determine if his/her soil has excess sodium by sending a sample of the soil to a professional lab. If excess sodium is present, the lab will tell you how much gypsum to add.

If you have the gypsum already, and the package is open, you can go ahead and add it. Fortunately, it won't damage anything if sodium levels are ok.

    Bookmark     May 11, 2015 at 1:50PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Tons of earthworms is a good sign. It means you can just layer a couple of inches of compost on top of the bed 2-3 times a year and let the worms work it in for you. They do all the work and you get all the benefits. :)

Dave

    Bookmark     May 11, 2015 at 3:20PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Sq. Foot Gardening has its own forum here. Sq. Foot gardening forum

Lots of info there but do keep in mind that it is just one possible method of gardening, it has its own learning curve in addition to just learning the basics of regular gardening, and it has its limitations. Spacing used in SFG all depends on the varieties used with many things. Indeterminate variety tomatoes will require more sq. feet than determinate varieties and will require heavy pruning to fit and produce. Smaller pepper varieties do ok in 1 square but the larger bell pepper varieties often need 2 sqs. Many things require trellising to work in such limited space.

<One thing I realized I didn't do though - I didn't use any weed cloth. I dug out my grass, added newspaper and filled the box. I planned (but forgot) to put down a type of weed cloth near the top of the soil. >

Weed barrier goes on the bottom of the box if you are going to use it for some reason. It normally isn't needed or recommended with raised beds because it creates drainage problems. But either way it doesn't go on or near the top. Doing that would only make planting and fertilizing more difficult so I'm not sure what you were planning there. After planting, mulch goes on the top of the soil around the plants.

Dave

    Bookmark     May 11, 2015 at 12:36PM
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m_gold

Melfield & Kathy - thank you for your posts and for helping.

Dave, I used newspaper on the bottom of this garden; hopefully that helps with the weeds. A friend recommended the weed barrier on top and to then just cut holes when planting as he says there may be weed seeds in his topsoil. In any event, it won't be the case did me this year. With the peat I used, is mulch also needed on top for moisture or just to help prevent weeds? I didnt purchase nukch, but i can. Thanks.

    Bookmark     May 11, 2015 at 2:03PM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

It's more heat VS sun. Rather than buying starts at a big box store, go to a local nursery that has plants that are good for your area. The BB stores will sell you plants that aren't right for the time of year and have been grown in artificial conditions that may not be appropriate for your area.

For example, most of the BB stores in this area have no vege starts in the fall when so many greens will flourish in my mild CA area!

Keep reading here and you'll find when to start seeds or starts. There may even be a forum for your area in these forums! Look around! Have fun! Nancy

    Bookmark     May 9, 2015 at 6:11PM
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rhony2

Living in AZ, I get a LOT of sun. What has done best is Eggplant. Give it enough water with the sun and it will produce like crazy, even when the temperature exceeds 110F. However Eggplant really doesn't grow like crazy until the soil temperature hits around 80F. I also tried to grow a variety of cucurbits (cucumber, squash, melon). Cucumber was a failure for me here since all the sun makes the fruit bitter. And in the height of summer I was watering the cucumbers around 3 times a day. I started squash this year and even with the 100F temperature a few weeks ago I did not have that problem. My biggest issue with both the cucumbers and squash was the powdery mildew, which thrives on cooler days although hot sun tends to retard the growth of the fungus. Currently using Neem oil to contain it.

    Bookmark     May 11, 2015 at 8:05AM
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