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planatus(6)

Pull one up and see if it has pink roots. That would make it a red rooted pigweed, which is a wild amaranth. Weed with redeeming qualities.

    Bookmark   May 15, 2014 at 8:37AM
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sunnibel7 Md 7(7)

Pigweed.

    Bookmark   May 15, 2014 at 10:47AM
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glo407

Speaking of pest deterrent - small green catipillers are eating our collards and cabbage leaves. Need deterrent suggestions fast! A neighbor suggested a mild soap and water solution sprayed on leaves. Another suggested Neem oil. I'm afraid of the leaves burning/wilting or even killing the plants with either suggestion. Please help

    Bookmark   May 15, 2014 at 9:57AM
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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

I agree with the others. I doubt that cucumbers would work for deterring pests. Sounds like another one of those things where people read an article about something (in this case about cucumbers having some benefit; possibly against ants), then they re-tell it and it gets misconstrued.

Glo407- They are cabbage worms or loopers. Pick them off and squish them if you don't want to spray. Be on the lookout for the eggs as well and when you see those, remove/squish them. The only deterrent is covering your plants with row covers or tulle. BT (Bacillus thuringiensis), which is a type of bacteria, kills them as well.

Rodney

    Bookmark   May 15, 2014 at 10:33AM
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wlynnp_tn(7a)

yes, I just got the Surround in the mail yesterday. as soon as the storms move out of the area I plan on spraying all of the vegetables with that. I purchased Take Down spray earlier in the season, which is pyrethrin mixed with canola, but there seems to be some photo-toxicity with that so I am hesitant to use it. I am looking at mixing Serenade and Actinovate with the Surround....still researching that.

    Bookmark   May 15, 2014 at 10:12AM
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wlynnp_tn(7a)

Planatus, I think I will get some tulle for my squash before the SVB's get busy. even with the Kaolin clay I think the additional preventative measure is a great idea!

    Bookmark   May 15, 2014 at 10:16AM
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ltilton

If I understand the OP, she isn't planning to transplant these squash but leave them in the pot, which can surely only support one vine.

    Bookmark   May 15, 2014 at 8:18AM
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floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK

Right - I missed that bit. Yes way too many for one pot.

    Bookmark   May 15, 2014 at 9:23AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

I would just pinch off the two middle ones(Cut by scissors, not to disturb the other two ) and keep the other two. If you want more in another spot, just sow more seeds. They should come up in a week or so. It is possible to separate them and replant them, but if you have not done it before, you will take a risk in doing so. Cucurbits are THE LEAST transplant plants friendly seedlings that I know of. The MOST friendly and forgiving ones : ONIONS family.

    Bookmark   May 15, 2014 at 1:28AM
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ltilton

I agree with seysonn about pinching out the middle two plants, but I wouldn't keep two pumpkins in a bed that size. The seedlings are young enough that the smallest is probably transplantable.

The main thing is if you can take out one for transplant without damage to the remaining seedling's roots.

This post was edited by ltilton on Thu, May 15, 14 at 10:28

    Bookmark   May 15, 2014 at 8:23AM
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planatus(6)

Our soil was once rocky mountain clay and now it is clay loam, I think in part because I gave away the tiller a few years ago. We use a lot of wood chips and sawdust as pathway mulch, and they host very happy soil-enriching fungi that do better with hand cultivation. You can use a broadfork to aerate soil without tilling it, very handy to have around.

When I need to plant in wet soil, I mix organic fertilizer into compost, place it in the bottom of a planting hole, and set the seedling over it. They like it!

    Bookmark   May 15, 2014 at 8:12AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Agree. Usually it begins to get a slight yellow cast before the stalks begin to separate and that is when to harvest. So get it now.

Dave

    Bookmark   May 14, 2014 at 9:40PM
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catherinet(5 IN)

Thanks Dave and Kevin! I'm going to grab and knife and go out now! :)

    Bookmark   May 15, 2014 at 7:24AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Agree. Birds but mice, rats, cutworms if any in the soil, and I wouldn't rule out squirrels or chipmunks either if you see them around. They can climb anything.

A pic would help as the type of damage is usually a good clue to who did it.

Dave

    Bookmark   May 14, 2014 at 8:11PM
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floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK

I've had snails on windowsills four storeys up but they tend not to go for tomatoes.

A picture would help, as Dave says.

    Bookmark   May 15, 2014 at 4:26AM
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AiliDeSpain(6a - Utah)

Thanks everyone, that's what I thought. :)

    Bookmark   May 15, 2014 at 12:48AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Wayne said it best: Just keeping the plant in the original pot for two log, when it starts getting root bound, midgitized. I have one such plant, way past hardening off, that I have no room for it. Little by little, a lot of plants that you buy from nurseries will be over hardened, root bound.

    Bookmark   May 15, 2014 at 1:39AM
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jimmy56_gw (zone 6 PA)

I'm in zone 6 PA and just planted my melon seeds in the garden, I rake the soil in rolls about 6 inches high and about 16 inches wide (Raised Rows), Then cover with black plastic especially since the weather has been so messed up so far this year, I always have better luck planting my seeds in the garden instead of transplanting.

    Bookmark   May 14, 2014 at 9:53PM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

What kind of black mulch? If it's the wood chips, you can still hand water. Maybe lay a soaker hose or drip irrigation before laying down your mulch.
I don't use drip cause I have tons of minerals in my water and they tend to clog. I prefer to hand water (therapy) or use the soaker hose and the oven timer or my watch (or cell phone) timer. Nancy

    Bookmark   May 14, 2014 at 9:27PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

If you mean landscape fabric then water passes through it. it has holes in it. Plus you cut holes in it to plant the plants so you water easily around the plants.

Dave

    Bookmark   May 14, 2014 at 9:38PM
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Wild lambsquartersIs this lambsquarters?
Posted by beetree May 13, 2014
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beetree

Well I'm happy it's good to eat we have 6 acres of it lol

    Bookmark   May 14, 2014 at 12:23PM
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zeedman Zone 5 Wisconsin

Lambsquarters is a delicious & nutritious cooked green... but if you have never tried it, I would recommend only eating a small quantity at first, until you know how your digestive system will handle it.

    Bookmark   May 14, 2014 at 5:40PM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

Looks a tad like tarragon but only with the subliminal suggestion from galinas ;)

Looks almost like Alyssum pre-bloom.

Kevin

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 5:21PM
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floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK

Still unconvinced by any of the ids so far. Looking forward to more pictures.

    Bookmark   May 14, 2014 at 3:59PM
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soraystud(5)

@ djkj - Oh man, I would love to grow this, not sure how it would do in zone 5 (Mass) though!

@ shuffles - here's some suggestions
http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/curry_leaves
http://www.tarladalal.com/glossary-curry-leaves-388i

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 8:10AM
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shuffles_gw

soray, thanks. From the links you attached, it looks like it takes a very few leaves per recipe. I guess I will just add three or four leaves to my next curry.

    Bookmark   May 14, 2014 at 3:59PM
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brookw_gw

You can take a decent harvest from 3rd yr gus. Just quit once the spears start getting small--below pencil size.

    Bookmark   May 14, 2014 at 2:04PM
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