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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

And the conclusion?

I'm guessing you're going to leave a swath of wheat to shade them. Am I right? :)

Kevin

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 5:32PM
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wertach zone 7-B SC

Yes Kevin, you are right!

I will have to remember to do the same next spring, I love fresh peas.

I picked a mess of peas and had them for supper last night, they are sooooo good!

    Bookmark   May 14, 2014 at 9:27AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

I sure would have been concerned about its use in my garden last year but not this year assuming it was exposed to average winter weather (no location given so can only guess about that). This assuming that product is in fact what they used.

As for the nests of chipmunks that all depends on how you feel about killing them by moving them or delaying planting and letting them mature and leave on their own. I'm a country-dwelling wildlife softie so I'd plant elsewhere and leave them alone until they mature but it is your choice of course.

Once they are gone then I'd suggest a thorough tilling of the entire bed to destroy the tunnels, seal/caulk any access points, and give some thought to fencing/enclosing the bed in some manner so that they can't return.

Dave

    Bookmark   May 12, 2014 at 7:28PM
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planatus(6)

One of the things about pyrethroid insecticides is their fast knock-down. Insects are immobilized instantly upon contact, so it is not likely that they carried the insecticide more than a few inches from where it was applied. With an active hornet nest present, I doubt that chipmunks visited the freshly treated area, either.

We start watching for yellow jacket and bald-faced hornet nests about now, and terminate those in bad locations. Boiling water poured down the entry hole at night will make them move on. On level ground, covering the entry hole with a translucent bowl will slowly extinguish a nest, too.

I've noticed that the yellow jackets often relocate in midsummer. We look for new nests in late June so as not to be taken by surprise, but we try to keep a yellow jacket nest close to (but not in) the garden. In years with a working yellow jacket nest nearby, we never see a cabbageworm on fall broccoli and cabbage.

    Bookmark   May 14, 2014 at 7:52AM
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melikeeatplants

could be cutworms...they come out at night from soil....

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 5:53PM
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galinas(5B)

I don't think bottle will help with squirrels - they will knock it out. With the rest of the bugs, as soon as they do not come from soil - it should help.

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 8:07PM
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Deeby

I decided to use sliced radishes sprinkled with sea salt for "potato chips". It makes sense to me-radish slices have crunch and saltiness so why not have a healthy and still flavorful "chip"? Just as good with a sandwich as chips IMO.

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 2:44PM
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ZachS. z5 Littleton, CO

Those actually sound like some good ideas! Now, if only my radishes hadn't gotten smashed into sad little heaps by the snow yesterday ...

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 4:42PM
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Slimy_Okra(2b)

Mindy, bok choy is one of those things that only work as a fall crop. Spring-planted, as you say, bolts and gets tough very quickly. In your zone, I'd direct-seed it outside in mid to late August.
It can be covered with a low tunnel to prolong the fall harvest period but it is not as hardy as kale or spinach. Harvest it before night temperatures drop below the mid-20s.

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 12:15PM
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ltilton

Here's some of my Mei Qing Choi, ready to pick as baby choi, which is how I like it. The one on the right seems to be a different kind, so I'll probably pick it first, today.

I don't know how long all these will stand, but it's sure been a cold spring.

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 2:51PM
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galinas(5B)

They also don't like even partial shade. So if they not in a full sun it make take much longer.

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 1:19PM
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MChamberlain(5b)

It's been full sun, pretty moist and thinned to 1 inch...

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 2:07PM
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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

Need nitrogen.

    Bookmark   May 11, 2014 at 2:26AM
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soraystud(5)

In agreement with the folks who mentioned overwatering. Peppers prefer an irregular deep watering rather than a shallow, daily watering.

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 8:16AM
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tishtoshnm Zone 6/NM

Thank you, yes, I meant width (there are hazards to posting too late at night). I will go with 4 feet, as I prefer not to have overhang of the pumpkins. Overhang means it is difficult to see if there are snakes hiding, I like my paths to be rather clear. I am on the taller side and my back is fine so reaching in the 4 feet is not much of a problem (knees are harder for me but no matter the width, I will have to bend down when not using a hoe for weeding). All beds will be double dug at least 18 inches, I hate going to plant and hitting the hardware cloth. Thank you for all input.

    Bookmark   May 11, 2014 at 6:15PM
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mckenziek(9CA)

You can train the pumpkin vines to stay in a three foot wide bed. Every day just move the very end of any vine that is starting to hang over.

But there is nothing wrong with 4 foot beds either. Mine are all 4 feet by 8 feet.

McKenzie

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 12:41AM
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Slimy_Okra(2b)

Root maggots are a major issue around here. I posted a thread a couple weeks ago about using row covers to stop the adult flies from laying eggs in the first place, if you want to do a search for it. There's also a thread on using tulle as a barrier against other small insects.

I finally decided to splurge on something called Proteknet Insect Netting which comes by the roll and is cheaper than tulle when purchased in bulk.

    Bookmark   May 12, 2014 at 10:03PM
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marcantonio

a little secret, at planting time ad some powered ginger in the planting hole and on the surface near and even on the plant. sprinkle some every week or two. till plants are larger.hope this helps. works for all in the cabbage family.

    Bookmark   May 12, 2014 at 11:03PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

An A-frame trellis staked down on both sides of the bed would do the job.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: A-frame trellis images

    Bookmark   May 8, 2014 at 11:52AM
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Asterid

Thank you Dave, I have some scrap lumber and hinges and will be trying a variant of this design:
http://www.vegetablegardener.com/item/8315/diy-a-frame-veggie-trellis

Will use string instead of mesh.

    Bookmark   May 12, 2014 at 10:42PM
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sunnibel7 Md 7(7)

Yes, not all grass seed is the same size. That's an annual grass of some sort. Anyway, you want to get those sooner rather than later. Small weeds are way easier to remove than big ones.

    Bookmark   May 12, 2014 at 7:55PM
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wayne_5 zone 6a Central Indiana

A hoe job...well said Dave.

I have a beautiful volunteer Red Clover seeding, but it comes out.

    Bookmark   May 12, 2014 at 10:09PM
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rhizo_1 (North AL) zone 7

Sunnibel, that's a great video....hadn't seen that one. The part I liked best was when it grabbed that little twig and pulled it in! Darn it, I can't see the comments.

Gardenper...your story doesn't sound like the work of earthworms. :-)

I'll recommend a book, too, Donna. The Earth Moved (On the Remarkable Achievements of Earthworms) by Amy Stewart. It's a great read and not nearly as um....boring......as it sounds.

P.S. Worms don't do this for fun. They drag seeds, leaves, twigs, etc. Into their tunnels to eat once the items begin to decompose a little.

This post was edited by rhizo_1 on Mon, May 12, 14 at 11:11

    Bookmark   May 12, 2014 at 11:02AM
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loribee2(CA 9)

Haha, I love hearing all the different thoughts and theories. What I do think everyone agrees on is that it is possible that seeds can somehow relocate themselves after planting, be it from water, worms, or earthly spirits.

    Bookmark   May 12, 2014 at 8:48PM
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farmerdill

They take two months or so to size up, so you have plenty of time.

    Bookmark   May 12, 2014 at 8:34PM
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rhizo_1 (North AL) zone 7

We would have to know the rate (ratio) at which your brand of sprayer draws whatever is in the container per gallon of water.

    Bookmark   May 12, 2014 at 10:26AM
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marcantonio

well its supposed to be 3 tablespoons per gallon of water. the sprayer has settings for 2 and 4 tablespoons but not three iwould just go with the 4 during a cool hour. any advice.

    Bookmark   May 12, 2014 at 8:33PM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

I suspected it might be the SVB, but I didn't realize they were a problem for Zucchini as well as other squashes. I haven't grown much squash. Thanks Dave, for that explanation.

    Bookmark   May 12, 2014 at 4:19PM
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ediej1209(5 N Central OH)

I have a sinking feeling I'm going to be hand-pollinating this year since it seems that most everyone's hives in and around Central Ohio got wiped out this past fall/winter from Colony Colapse :^( so that's good to know about doing it early in the mornings. I imagine the same thing would apply to cucumbers? What about bush green beans, or are they self-pollinating?
Edie

    Bookmark   May 12, 2014 at 4:42PM
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