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Mecdave Zone 8/HZ 9

You might check this thread in the Hot Pepper forum. A couple of us are battling Chilli thrips that cause this sort of leaf damage, and more. Your plant looks to be in the beginning stages.

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/pepper/msg0511302622994.html?23

Clipping off all the damaged leaves and treating the plants with insecticidal soap seems to be working for me.

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 7:10PM
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Slimy_Okra(2b)

Excess magnesium can induce a calcium deficiency and those plants exhibit symptoms that could be those of a mild calcium deficiency. A half tablespoon per week is way too much.

    Bookmark     June 1, 2014 at 9:12PM
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greendreamhome

Kevin -- Was your lime a powder, or like little pebbles? I thought it would be a powder -- I even opened the box wearing goggles and a mask in case it puffed up into the air -- but it was like gravel. I was just reading the solid dolomite limestone won't bubble with vinegar, but powder will. And I think it has to bubble for the vinegar to change form.

    Bookmark     June 1, 2014 at 1:29AM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

Pebbles.

Kevin

    Bookmark     June 1, 2014 at 12:11PM
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nickjoseph(5 Milwaukee, WI)

I planted over a week ago already--all plants. Tomorrow going to add a cuke, 3 pole bean plants, 3 onions & 1 more green pepper plant. Will be planting radishes from seeds. Our basil looks like it wants to croak & one green pepper died....why I have no idea....errrrrrrrrrrr

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 10:53PM
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ltilton

Kind of late for radishes

    Bookmark     June 1, 2014 at 9:25AM
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daninthedirt(Cent TX; HZ10, Sunset z30, USDA z8a)

You should eventually (as in, before next season) dig to at least a full spade depth, and work the compost and any other organic matter you have around into that depth. If in the fall, dig in leaves, especially if you're in the south and the soil stays more or less warm. Now, if this is the first time the bed is dug, it's going to be hard work, penetrating the compacted dirt. But if you dig in lots of compost and organic material, the digging will be far easier in following seasons.

I'd also suggest doing a test hole after irrigation, and just see what it looks like. Is there a muddy layer below the surface beyond which water has a hard time penetrating? You don't want your roots swimming in that. If so, at least for this year, you're going to have to be very careful not to overwater.

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 9:08PM
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grandad_2003(9A/sunset 28)

Dorthy, If you are not using a raised bed approach then suggest you use instead a rowed garden approach. (It was not clear in your post if your garden was mostly level/flat.) Because of our excessive rainfalls, rowing is the most common gardening method in southern states. (...we collected 5 inches of rain in the rain gauge last Wednesday.) The concept is for the top of the rows to be above ground level and for the valleys to be below ground level. Row width varies depending on the vegetable being planted... usually 3 to 4 ft wide. Raising the garden bed by adding mulch, soil, sand, etc. will over the years helps to improve drainage by elevating the valleys to near or above ground level.

This post was edited by grandad on Tue, Jun 3, 14 at 13:01

    Bookmark     June 1, 2014 at 8:21AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Yes the cutting will root - assuming it is a growing tip and not just a leaf branch - just like tomatoes will. But they do take longer than tomatoes to generate roots and need a little more care until they do.

Dave

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 10:42PM
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AiliDeSpain(6a - Utah)

Here's a picture of it. How do I care for it?

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 10:54PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Yep, mine did the same thing but recovered and the later new growth was fine...unless the rabbits get them.

Dave

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 2:36PM
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gltrap54

Thanks Dave! Yeah I lie awake at night thinking of new schemes to foil the cute little bunnies that ate 30+ Broccoli plants this spring...... When I finally drift off, I have nightmares of my beans being ate off at the ground....... Oh, wait...... that wasn't just a nightmare, that was also the fate of last fall's crop.......

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 6:47PM
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catherinet(5 IN)

That's very interesting defrost49. I'm going to look into it.
Thanks for posting about it.
One thing I wanted to ask about, is that I grew purple pole beans and purple peppers once, and when you cooked them they turned green. (which was disappointing). Would those still be higher in the nutrients?

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 9:05AM
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defrost49

I have a lot to learn and remember so I looked it up:
Royal Burgundy fades the longer cooked. Add raw beans to salad for maximum color and maximum anthocyanin value.
Also good Royalty Purple.
Colored fresh peas and beans that are red, blue or purple have more phytonutrients than traditional green varieties.
Odd, peppers aren't in the book.
Phytonutrients are produced by plants. These include antioxidants, certain compounds that reduce the risk of infection, lower blood pressure, lower LDL cholesterol, etc.

I was disappointed to learn my favorite apple varieties do not contains as many phytonutrients as others and the original wild varieties of apples contain a huge amount.

When plants were bred for higher sugar content such as super sweet varieties of corn, they usually lost nutritional value.

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 4:41PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

If you want to know if there are earwigs, just try removing the mulch from around the basil plant. If there we any will be hiding in the moist under it.
But Earwigs don't eat that much, as compared to slugs. Rats and rabbits are also suspect. So nylon tulle (from any fabric/craft store) can deter many and all.

Today I will be xplanting cucumbers. I will cover them with tulle. Tulle is a versatile thing to have handy and its is very inexpensive cover material. Will let air, light, rain in. It is wind proof, light weight.

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 4:00PM
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AiliDeSpain(6a - Utah)

How do you secure it to the plant?

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 4:13PM
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zeedman Zone 5 Wisconsin

"Zeedman, how do you get rid of your ant hills?"

Unless they are causing problems, I leave them alone. Black ants, while annoying, seldom cause problems. The except is when they spread disease from plant to plant, by carrying aphids... then it's necessary to kill the ants so I can deal quickly with the aphids (I use insecticidal soap to kill the aphids). Destructive ants, like the carpenter ants, are another matter; I do not tolerate their presence in the garden.

Ants are the only exception I make from strictly organic practices. I use the liquid ant baits designed for household use, placing them under empty pulp plant trays to both keep them dry & prevent animals from finding them. The hills are usually just outside my garden, and I bait them there. A single bait usually kills the nest, although it may take awhile to see results. Larger nests, or complexes of several hills, may require several baits. If I can't find the nest, I place a bait or two under the plants they are infesting, and let the ants find the nest for me.

If you don't want to use poison, and are able to locate the nest, dump a big kettle of boiling water on it. Do this at night, when most of the foraging ants should be in the nest. Open the heart of the nest, then pour the boiling water in. This may need to be repeated several times.

There is another way which might work, one I use to kill wasp nests in the ground. Get a tin or can, and put some charcoal lighter in it. Find a large, sturdy metal container (such as a very large steel bowl or metal tub) that will fit over both the nest & the tin of fluid. Just before sunset, water the ground around the nest to make it soft. Working at night so as not to get stung, place the fluid next to the nest, light it, and quickly cover it with the tub, forcing the edges into the ground. The burning fluid will exhaust all of the oxygen inside, and leave poisonous fumes behind. Leave the tub in place for at least a day; any insects that were too deep to be killed by the fumes will be killed as they emerge. This has been 100% effective for me when dealing with ground-dwelling wasps; it might be worth trying for fire ants. Keep in mind, ants often form satellite nests, you'd have to get them all at close to the same time, or neighboring nests would just re-inhabit the empty ones.

    Bookmark     December 9, 2011 at 2:48PM
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timetraveler(9b Melbourne Beach FL)

My asparagus bean plants are aphid magnets. I knock them off in the morning and they're back in the afternoon. They destroy the blossoms and new beans so that few are left for harvest. Will those of you who say that you have no trouble with aphids please post which varieties you're growing? I'm hoping there's a resistant one.

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 3:06PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

That C-Five-C looks beautiful, Aili.
Looks a lot like my Manzano. The foliage, color of flowers, except Manzano is hairy.

I do have couple of C-Fives-C but they are nowhere near yours. They are much shorter and are not yet fully purplish.

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 5:13AM
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AiliDeSpain(6a - Utah)

Thanks seysonn. Ceth, I think that is a characteristic of this plant, but I'm not sure.

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 10:31AM
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catherinet(5 IN)

I like to think in terms of the "fruit" that the vegetable will make. The larger the fruit, the more sun it needs. So I would put the cucs in the sunnier area.

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 9:07AM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

Thank you! With new vegetable beds in place, the sun exposure is a little different than it was and it was a pleasant surprise to see that section get another hour of sun. Cukes it is. :-)

Good way of thinking of it too Catherine.

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 9:51AM
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drscottr(7)

Hi Folks

Both are liquids.

Scott

    Bookmark     May 27, 2014 at 10:39PM
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grandad_2003(9A/sunset 28)

For the reasons mentioned above, I keep BT liquid in our outside (storeroom) refrigerator. It remains effective for several ??? years. It usually takes about 5 to 7 years before I finish the bottle.

This post was edited by grandad on Sat, May 31, 14 at 8:56

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 8:54AM
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NHBabs(4b-5aNH)

Link works now.

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 7:03AM
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mushibu10(zone 8 (UK))

it does work. thank you for fixing.

leo

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 7:11AM
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jacob.morgan78(7 Central Virginia)

I missed it. Sorry. The per 10' thing threw me off for some reason. Since it is organic, I probably don't need to worry as much about over doing it... I definitely tend to overthink things sometimes so thanks for dealing with me!

Since this is the first application, you guys think I could by with adding more? Maybe 2-3 tablespoons per plant? There I go again over thinking... oh well... :-)

thanks again!

    Bookmark     May 30, 2014 at 7:39PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Seysonn,

I've already made my choice on fertilizer for my own reasons. Do you have any recommendations related to my question about how much to side dress each plant?
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I apologize.
Good luck with your choice !

    Bookmark     May 30, 2014 at 11:45PM
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slowjane CA/ Sunset 21

It's true that gardening is a tricky hobby if you are a very anxious person as there are so many things you can't control or know and it puts you in touch with your environment and food in a way we aren't accustomed to anymore.

However, (speaking as someone who can also be a very anxious person), gardening could be a way to face some of these things and work on accepting (some) of the chaos in the world and (some) of the things we cannot change or control. For me, as much as I can worry about my soil (found some old paint chips in it from taking out a fence...oy...trying not to fixate and be reasonable about the actual danger) the payoff can really help you get past all the little trials you have to go through to get there.

Perhaps as you get more informed about all these issues, that knowledge will help quell your anxieties and you can embrace the very positive experience of gardening and being "present", which is one of my main reasons for doing it as it gets me out of my head and reconnected to my hands, the dirt, and the miracle of things growing.

I say don't give up yet! but maybe look at it as a learning opportunity, in more ways than one.

    Bookmark     May 30, 2014 at 4:24PM
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elisa_z5

slowjane, that was wonderfully wise. I was wondering what could be said to the OP to help ease some of the fears -- thanks for doing it much better than I could.

    Bookmark     May 30, 2014 at 10:23PM
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