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dowbright(z6 in Missouri)

Hey, Slimy! Yes, the sunflowers float on top of the water for a long time unless they are disturbed by a squirrel falling in. Even then, enough still float that I've gotten a second one before I take the first one out.

I've been able to use them for up to a couple days, if I remove the bodies, but if you catch some, the water gets very stinky from them releasing their bowels and so on, and I have to dump it.

I bury them in a garden area that's open, and dump the sunflowers and water in my compost. Sometimes, though, the seeds can be hosed off and put back into a clean bucket of water and they still float. You'll have to experiment to see how it goes for you.

This post was edited by dowbright on Thu, Jun 12, 14 at 17:29

    Bookmark     June 12, 2014 at 5:27PM
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catherinet(5 IN)

If the cuts are slanted, it was probably rabbits.

    Bookmark     June 12, 2014 at 5:38PM
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French Tulle NettingIs anyone here using it ?
Posted by seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1) May 24, 2013
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tigrikt(6B)

We Use it on squash for SVB protection, in Earth Boxes as fertilizer bags and will try this year on parthenocarpic cucumbers against cucumber beetles.
The only complain - aphids. They have no natural predators under tulle and multiply freely. Experiments trapping lady bugs were unsuccessful, they spent all their time and energy trying to get out and didnt care about aphids.

    Bookmark     June 12, 2014 at 3:48PM
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zeedman Zone 5 Wisconsin

I will be using tulle this year to cover some of my isolation cages for seed saving. Tulle has better air flow, so it can be used over vegetables which are sensitive to damp, stale air (such as beans & tomatoes). Agribon - even the lightest grade - traps too much humidity for those vegetables, they tend to get foliar diseases (been there, done that).

As already mentioned, tulle is not UV stable, so it degrades quickly in sunlight. Mosquito netting has similar qualities & weaves, and there are UV-resistant versions available... but it is pricier than tulle, and a little harder to find.

    Bookmark     June 12, 2014 at 5:21PM
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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

That's because Grazon ai is picloram, another relative of clopyralid.

    Bookmark     June 26, 2013 at 3:56PM
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smithtrav

So, how did it turn out for you last year, I am having that problem this year. Did you find the source

    Bookmark     June 12, 2014 at 2:55PM
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farmerdill

Age; Cucumber turns yellow or orange when ripe. They are used when immature. Yours looks like a pickling cucumber that you ignored too long unless you want to save seeds.

    Bookmark     June 12, 2014 at 1:12PM
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planatus(6)

We have had a serious case of asparagus beetles this spring, as have the local organic growers. At first there were too many to squish, so I cut off the infested fronds and composted them. Then I let the chickens in the patch twice, and I think they did a good cleanup job. I've started to let some fronds grow again, and I'm not seeing asparagus beetle larvae.

I think spinosad would work better than neem. It's what I was going to use if the chickens didn't set things right.

    Bookmark     June 12, 2014 at 8:04AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Hand picking and bucket of soapy water but no, do not cuts the ferns down now as the crowns need that energy to survive.

If you simply cannot bring yourself to touch them then a sharp pair of scissors snips them in half with little damage to the ferns.

But neem has little to no effect on them.

Dave.

    Bookmark     June 12, 2014 at 12:05PM
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farmerdill

Agreed. A yam is an exotic tropical that will only grow in a frost free zone.

    Bookmark     June 8, 2014 at 8:55AM
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Deeby

Thanks.

    Bookmark     June 12, 2014 at 12:37AM
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farmerdill

Yes, the female flowers will have baby gourds behind them. Here is a video on hand polinating bottle gourds ( the Cucuzzi is a bottle gourd)

Here is a link that might be useful: Hand pollination - gourd

    Bookmark     June 11, 2014 at 9:29PM
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elisa_z5

Very nice -- garden success, AND you've got a tan :)

    Bookmark     June 8, 2014 at 10:48PM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

NO NO! NO tan! I'm a former redhead and HIDE from the sun! LOL
It was actually too HOT for me this time! High 80-mid 90s! YUK!
The last 2 times we went were in March/April low to mid 80s..perfect!
Anyway, I planted the new peppers and eggplants and realized that some had survived! I might be in BIG trouble in August! LOL Nancy

    Bookmark     June 11, 2014 at 9:23PM
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howelbama(7 NJ)

I rake up the fallen pine needles in my back yard and compost them and also use them to mulch with.

The only thing you need to watch for is ticks, they seem to love them as well. They are something you should be on the look out for while gardening anyway though.

    Bookmark     June 11, 2014 at 2:29PM
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Molex 7a NYC

we should all be so lucky, all I get are millions of (MILLIONS) Tree of Heaven seedlings.

    Bookmark     June 11, 2014 at 5:31PM
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glib(5.5)

hand pollination is almost 100% efficient. I can stir a small paint brush inside a male flower, pull it back, and see the pollen all over it.

    Bookmark     June 11, 2014 at 1:42PM
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steiconi(12a-Big Island, HI)

It's not the first fruits, they've been doing this for over a month.
I use a soft artist's paint brush to pollinate, same as I have for the last 4-5 years. Previous years yielded lots of zucchini.

I'll look into calcium deficiency. But the plants themselves are so healthy!

I use water from our tilapia tank, so it has no added chemicals except the lovely fish-added fertilizer.

    Bookmark     June 11, 2014 at 5:26PM
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howelbama(7 NJ)

I am in NJ as well, and my eggplants (in containers) are doing well. I don't think it has to do with the temps...

IMO it has to do with the moisture levels, could also be the pH of your mix.

Earthtainers should have some type of mulch cover over them to prevent top watering. Not having a mulch cover could be one of your issues.

Are you doing anything to prevent them from getting excess water during rain?

Excess moisture levels and pH levels that are outside of a normal range can cause all sorts of nutrients problems.

    Bookmark     June 11, 2014 at 2:21PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Yes Dave, I am experimenting with organic soil mix that is based on plant base and natural mineral base.
If I have to increase Ca or Zn what can I add to soil?

As we all know, when experimenting with unproven methods or methods that have proven troublesome problems will arise. They are expected, even anticipated, and when they arise 9 times out of 10 it is due to the experiment itself and no outside influence.

But the main problem is that it makes it difficult, if not impossible, for others to provide helpful information when asked without making the situation worse.

So while I could say add lime for calcium and a zinc chelate for zinc. But the real problem is likely the skewed pH of your mixture and in that case you can add all you want and it won't make any difference as they will be bound up and not available to the plant because of the pH..

So given the symptoms you need to first determine the pH of you mixture and adjust it as needed and adjust the perk of the mixture so that you can better stabilize the moisture levels.

How you can do that I can't say without a detailed recipe of the mix you made. Best guess is it is too acidic and draining poorly so too wet but that is just a guess.

Dave

    Bookmark     June 11, 2014 at 2:47PM
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Slimy_Okra(2b)

I have lost radishes to both slugs and rodents (usually mice). Rodent feeding will be evidenced by teeth marks. Slugs are more likely though.

    Bookmark     June 10, 2014 at 3:22PM
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hops_on_pop

didn't look like typical rodent bites

i set out a beer trap last night but didn't catch any slugs yet

    Bookmark     June 11, 2014 at 1:22PM
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tulips33

Do you know if it's okay to bury trees that have poison ivy vines growing on them?

    Bookmark     June 10, 2014 at 8:20PM
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wertach zone 7-B SC

Sorry, I really don't know if the poison ivy would hurt or not.

Maybe someone will come along with more knowledge!

    Bookmark     June 11, 2014 at 12:20PM
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HotHabaneroLady(7a Central MD)

I slightly disagree with Dave here. You certainly CAN let the pepper plant go ahead and do its thing. But the total harvest will likely be greater if you continue pinching off buds from a very small plant until it reaches a larger, more mature size. That is because the plant will then devote more energy to getting bigger and the bigger plant can bear more fruit.

So you can do exactly what Dave says. But whether you should depends on what you are trying to achieve. For earlier fruit, do it. For greater harvest, keep pinching a little longer.

Angie

    Bookmark     June 11, 2014 at 9:51AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Angie - Is there any research that supports the claim of "greater harvest"? How long do you recommend pinching after planting?

Since the plant grows in approximately 2 week cycles of foliage growth and then blooming, if all blooms are removed prior to transplanting then new blooms shouldn't appear for another 10-14 days.

Pinching those blooms it ends up being almost a month after planting (assuming proper planting time and proper transplant size). That would seem to greatly reduce production since it would put many growers into the high heat periods where blossom-drop and dormancy become the main issue.

Dave

    Bookmark     June 11, 2014 at 11:14AM
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Ohiofem(6a Ohio)

A few years back I left a large uncarved Halloween pumpkin outside where it fell on the ground near our front porch. In the spring long before the last frost, I saw that dozens of seeds had sprouted. Many survived the freezes and even snow, so when the weather warmed up, I culled all but the two largest seedlings and mulched them with several inches of compost. It was in dappled shade with only a few hours of morning sun. I tried to train it to climb up a tomato cage, but after climbing to the top and back down again it began wandering into the lawn, chasing the sun. The vine grew another 15 feet and it began blooming profusely. The flowers were the size of dinner plates and quite beautiful. Toward the end of summer, it produced a couple pumpkins. They were the size of basketballs and still green when we had our first hard freeze. It was a great conversation piece. Since then I've tried purposefully growing pumpkins in whiskey barrels with good sun and fertilization, but never was able to produce another fruit.

    Bookmark     June 7, 2014 at 12:59PM
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TonioKroger

Thanks for the responses. I had to pull it out as it was going to kill the nasturtium underneath.

    Bookmark     June 11, 2014 at 11:03AM
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