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johns.coastal.patio(USDA 10b, Sunset 24)

I am sorry you are having trouble, but it is tough starting out, when you haven't seen good (and bad) growth cycles before.

Did you remove the cover after seeds popped up? One problem can be too much humidity and too little light.

Since I don't have grow lights I try to get them by a window as soon as possible. And with the top of I prefer watering with a mister.

This may not help, sorry. Maybe watching some (more) seed starting videos will help.

In terms of how much time you have, have you found a garden calendar (online) for your area. I found one for my zone with nice "do this now" and "you are late" instructions.

Good luck.

    Bookmark   May 3, 2014 at 12:27AM
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tracydr(9b)

Pea sprouts are delicious. If you do need to thin make a salad or stir fry with the peas and micro-kale.

    Bookmark   April 29, 2014 at 8:51PM
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moraleagle(6a)

Still, the idea of eating seedlings is not attractive to me... So I'll transplant this Sunday before the rain.

    Bookmark   May 2, 2014 at 4:25PM
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wertach zone 7-B SC

You might want to re-post this in the Allium forum for better answers, I don't have a clue myself!

Here is a link that might be useful: Allium

    Bookmark   May 2, 2014 at 11:20AM
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PranaVida(11)

Thanks, I just did that.

    Bookmark   May 2, 2014 at 11:25AM
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Newbie-gardener

Here's an update. They look a bit better now now that they have more air circulation and less watering. The peat pots actually got a chance to dry lately. Here's a closer look at the possible mold. Probably mold, yes?

    Bookmark   May 1, 2014 at 11:02PM
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Newbie-gardener

A look at the curl and yellowing. The new leaf looks green and happy at least.

    Bookmark   May 1, 2014 at 11:04PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Thanks for catching that Slimy. I missed the okra completely.

Dave

    Bookmark   May 1, 2014 at 8:09PM
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ceth_k(11)

Assuming the soil textures in equal condition, the one thing that decides plants watering need is the characteristic of their roots. The stronger, longer, wider, deeper root types need less watering(the exceptions here are those root crops that need a lot water ) and the shorter, weaker, shallower root types need as frequent watering as they could get(i.e. most leafy vege and squash family).

    Bookmark   May 1, 2014 at 10:59PM
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tishtoshnm Zone 6/NM

So Wayne, does corn have to be covered if there is a freeze coming. My soil is warm enough but my last freeze is May 15th. Of course, I could just try some and see what happens. Where else could I get my jollies for just a $2 packet of seeds?

    Bookmark   May 1, 2014 at 1:49PM
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wayne_5 zone 6a Central Indiana

Sweet corn is more tender than field corn and anything below 35ð or 36ð may damage them some. Freezing temps ? forget it.

Covering helps, yes.

    Bookmark   May 1, 2014 at 4:47PM
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howelbama(7 NJ)

Wikipedia

Here is a link that might be useful: Cutworms

    Bookmark   May 1, 2014 at 11:16AM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

Cutworms +1

Stick about 3 toothpicks right next to the stalk so they can't wrap around and clip them. Haven't lost a single seedling to them since I started doing this.

Kevin

    Bookmark   May 1, 2014 at 2:43PM
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pnbrown

It is the heat more than anything else and that was considerably exacerbated by being in containers. Early march is overly late to plant in the Orlando area - mid to late january is the correct time. A half-zone north in Lake county I plant in late january and that generally strikes a good balance between mostly avoiding frost-nip to the emerging foliage and the mature plants running into long hot days. Greater Orlando has much fewer frost events, depending of where you are you might even plant in late December.

    Bookmark   May 1, 2014 at 8:22AM
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missxnish

I planted red potatoes bought from the farmer's market. This book I'm reading said to plant in March so I did. I'll try February next year. I put 4-5 potatoes per gallon 15 gallon container.

Thank you all for your comments and advice.

    Bookmark   May 1, 2014 at 1:30PM
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pureguava

It's erratic spring weather out here (80s one day, 50 the next, high winds, sometimes frost- Colorado!) I definitely started the melons too early- they are going crazy! I wanted a jump on the season and got too eager. The aerogarden is great for seed starting but now I have near 60 plants in need of bigger pots because it got crowded. I put some in peat pots but have been reading that those aren't good (for moisture management) so will be heading back to the store to get plastic pots for the super-leggy tomatoes and peppers.

    Bookmark   May 1, 2014 at 12:52PM
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howelbama(7 NJ)

well, good thing about leggy tomatoes is you can just bury them deep when you transplant.

    Bookmark   May 1, 2014 at 1:02PM
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ceth_k(11)

OMG the kittens are so cute and cuddly !

    Bookmark   May 1, 2014 at 7:46AM
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ltilton

Cats are very good on voles. Mine are inside/outside cats and living in doesn't blunt their predacious edge.

Getting old does, however, alas.

    Bookmark   May 1, 2014 at 10:22AM
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terry_neoh(5b)

The change in the leaf stems give them a higher surface area to volume ratio, which would make them more efficient at expelling and evaporating water. It would do this either to rid itelf of harmful ammounts of water, or to cool the plant, or a combination of both.

However, leaves (foiliage) woud be naturally more efficient at these tasks than stems. So maybe something on the leaves like naturally occurring wax, or a build-up of sprays and dust, could be blocking the leaves from efficiently evaporating. Maybe hosing them down good with a light soap (quickly-you don't want to soak them if they are alteady too wet.) Good luck, and remember that new squash plants grow very quickly (from seed) and may be your easiest way out of this problem.
-Terry

This post was edited by terry_neoh on Thu, May 1, 14 at 6:12

    Bookmark   May 1, 2014 at 5:55AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Flat, markedly elongated, and split stems are caused by a severe insufficiency of the needed light if grown indoors or sun if grown outdoors. You don't indicate where growing - in or out. Their color is also an indication of very poor light/sun exposure.

Ambient air temps can contribute to the problem but since you give no indication of your location or zone I can't comment on how that could have contributed in this case.

These seedlings are not salvageable.

Dave

    Bookmark   May 1, 2014 at 9:43AM
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terry_neoh(5b)

Keep outer skins dried, and mulch and dirt pulled back from the top half of the bulb as it progresses. This is some extra work that the commercial growers probably do not do.

The drying skins at the top can accumulate rain, whick, if not quickly dried, can start to rot. This can not only ruin that cover layer to the onion but can tranfer some of the fungus to healthy, growing leaves.
-Terry

    Bookmark   May 1, 2014 at 6:29AM
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wayne_5 zone 6a Central Indiana

I don't understand the keeping dirt off the upper bulb. I like to see a bit added to keep them from greening ....got along good my way.

    Bookmark   May 1, 2014 at 8:54AM
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hudson___wy(3)

Rhubarb greens up fast - even in this cold unsettled early spring with night time temps in the mid teens!

    Bookmark   April 16, 2014 at 6:24AM
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hudson___wy(3)

Rhubarb really is a very hardy - cold resistant plant !! It received a dose of winter last weekend but didn't complain much - looks happy as ever again today!

    Bookmark   May 1, 2014 at 4:51AM
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Staking Tomatillos?Does anyone stake their plant?
Posted by auntlainey July 13, 2010
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Posted by AiliDeSpain 6a - Utah (My Page) on
Wed, Apr 30, 14 at 20:52

You need more than one plant for them to be pollinated as they rely on cross pollination for fruit production.
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Not true, with due respect to your opinion.
Do they sap that on that on the tag, that you need 2 plants?

I have proven that theory WRONG not once, twice but 3 times.

If Your tomatillo does not set fruit, for some reason, it is not because you have just one of them. It can happen when you have 2 or more.

Just past season I had just ONE tomtillo plant. It continued flowering til September, BUT no fruits. Come late September it suddenly was loaded with husks. But It was too late and no time to grow and ripen.

ABOUT SUPPORT:
I think a medium size 3-ring cage is best. Because they get bushy and one stake is not enough.

    Bookmark   May 1, 2014 at 12:01AM
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AiliDeSpain(6a - Utah)

The fact that they rely on cross pollination is a fact, having one plant produce fruit means that it is being pollinated by another tomatillo plant that isn't yours via insect pollination.
I start my own plants from seed so no I did not read this on a nursery tag. I thought staking would be adequate but I also have cages I can use, I actually wasn't planning on caging anything this year because they are not strong enough to support non Bush type plants and that's what I'm growing this year.

    Bookmark   May 1, 2014 at 12:20AM
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melikeeatplants

Just sow the seeds and you'll find out if it's enough light...

Check this site out too, you can plug in different times of year to see the suns pattern....

suncalc.net

    Bookmark   April 30, 2014 at 9:15PM
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catsgurleygirl

Thanks for your kind words and responses. I know we can try planting there, I was just trying to avoid having to move huge heavy beds along with the dirt, but we already made the beds so we are committed now :).

    Bookmark   April 30, 2014 at 11:35PM
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