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mdfarmer

I grew a few different colored orachs this spring, green, yellow and red. The flavor is somewhat similar to spinach, but I didn't think it tasted as good as other greens that I was growing, chard, etc. It's marketed as a warm weather alternative to spinach because it won't bolt in the heat, but the flavor is best in cool weather. It got too strong in summer.

I sell at a farmers' market and a few people bought orach once or twice, but I never heard any rave reviews. I started putting it in salad mix, a few of the varieties I grew had very vibrant coloring that looked very nice in a salad, but that's about it. I'm not sure that I'll grow it again.

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floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK

Yes, it is in the Chenopodiaceae, not the Brassicaceae. It self sows all over my allotment. I use a few baby leaves in early salads when there's not much about but otherwise don't bother to pick it. Chard also self sows and is far more flavoursome imo. and easier to harvest (bigger leaves). I've also added the fresh seed pods to salads but they were uninspiring and tough. It's so easy to grow you've nothing to lose trying it - it requires no care at all.

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daninthedirt(Cent TX; HZ10, Sunset z30, USDA z8a)

Recently discussed in this forum.

Here is a link that might be useful: Will butternut squash continue to ripen after picking?

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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

Looks beefsteak to me!
Being in zone 2-3, I would pick those puppies soon and let them ripen on the counter or wrapped in paper in a box in the garage! You don't want to loose them to frost! Nancy

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grandad_2003(9A/sunset 28)

Agree with the above posters... Almost impossible to ID a tomato by look. Best option would be to go back to the dollar store and see if there are any seed packs that look like what you purchased. A second suggestion would be to save the seeds from your tomato harvest, under the assumption that it is not a hybrid.... Dollar stores seldom carry hybrids. (Surf the web on seed saving if you need more info.)

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ltilton

Lot of very knowledgeable people here who'll answer questions. But also some of the other kind, unfortunately

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Deeby

Yes. So far, so good here.

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elisa_z5

It has been zapped by extra terrestrials.
The same ones that make the crop circles.

Sorry, I'm in Halloween mode, it being October 1st and all. My actual best guess is a vole ate its roots.

But doesn't it *look* like it's been zapped by extra terrestrials?

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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

Doesn't look like root damage to me. Looks like the leaves were eaten. You can see the other plants' leaves getting eaten as well. I'd guess that it was cabbage worms or loopers but I'm not sure if you have those in Australia.

Rodney

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Peter1142(Zone 6b)

As the msds states it is practically non-toxic (that's an actual quote), and that health injuries are not known or expected under normal use, and that it is inherently biodegradable and does not accumulate, I'd say it has a higher safety profile than many organic products. Of course, it can never replace adding rich organic matter to the soil.

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wayne_5 zone 6a Central Indiana

I have a couple zucchini that were powdery, but they too have some fresh green leaves...especially one of them AND it is without a new fertilizer boost.

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soilent_green

Photo showing scale. Again, if desired, click image to see larger.

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planatus(6)

These look like small versions of "neck" pumpkins, which have an even smaller bulb at the bottom. They are butternuts (C. moschata) which gives them natural resistance to squash vine borers. Most neck pumpkins like Dickinson Field Neck are very large, though. A straight neck is a desirable characteristic, too, for easier processing.

I have had moschatas like this keep for over a year in the basement.

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catherinet(5 IN)

I think the pot is big enough for 1 plant. What kind of soil are you using?
Maybe it's just tired. :)

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thedailyem(7)

Catherine I used a Miracle Gro Potting Mix.

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shermthewerm(8 PNW)

I *think* Walla Wallas should be harvested from June-August, and they do like they're going to flower. Also, (in case you didn't know) they don't keep very well, so break out your recipe book & use those beauties soon! Nice harvest BTW.

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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

In the future, when the leaves fall over and start to yellow they should be harvested and cured.

Rodney

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jonfrum(6)

Here in the Boston area, our soil is naturally acidic - due to bedrock, rainfall, etc - so I know I can put dolomite lime on the garden and lawn every year and do good things. I just put it down on my cleaned beds for next year, as it needs time to bread down and become bioactive. It's also a good source of calcium, so I kill two birds with one stone.

I always leave the lime out of the bed I'll be using for potatoes next year. If not for the certainty I have about my soil, I would definitely get my soil tested.

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daninthedirt(Cent TX; HZ10, Sunset z30, USDA z8a)

Yes, it pays to know what kind of bedrock is under you. In areas with limestone bedrock, alkaline soils are pretty much the rule. There are several natural ways to acidify soil, but pyrites, which are common in many different kinds of metamorphic bedrocks, degrade into sulfates, which acidify soil.

Our soil (over limestone) is mildly alkaline, and it is largely a losing battle to try to acidify it. That's because the groundwater is similarly alkaline, so irrigation (which we have to do a LOT of) just kills the acidification you're trying to achieve. Yeah, collecting rainwater would be best, but we just don't get enough.

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xxnonamexx(7a)

Our issue would be the deer ruining crops if it was sorghum

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xxnonamexx(7a)

Crimson looks like it is good to grow from seed but when do we plant the cover crop? We plant corn in June/July so when would we need to plant this to prep for June/July? Or should we toss fertilizer over the winter to increase nitrogen.

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ju1234((8 Dallas TX))

While searching this topic, i found the following article. Sounds like my method in bags would be similar to the "white tunnel in the farm"

Anaerobic Composting
By Compost King 13 Comments

Bokashi_Anaerobic CompostingAnaerobic composting or composting without the presence of oxygen has been practiced for centuries. Records indicate that the Chinese are the oldest known civilization to practice this form of composting to fertilize their rice paddies.

In more technical terms, anaerobic composting is composting organic materials, using living anaerobic organisms such as bacteria in an environment that has no oxygen present. This is the same process you will find occurring in nature as peat bogs and marshes.

Unless you happen to have access to a large field of water you are going to have to find another way to create your anaerobic compost pile. While most composting experts will talk about not letting your compost piles get too wet or they will rot, anaerobic composting requires approximately 70% moisture levels in order for it to work properly.
The Standard Compost Pile

You can turn your current compost pile into an anaerobic one quite simply and effectively by adding plenty of water. Yes I know we have spent hours telling you how important it is to maintain moderate to low moisture levels, but with this type of composting you need to remove the oxygen from your compost pile. The water will drive out the oxygen and keep it out if you keep the water level high enough. By covering the pile to help keep in the moisture, you will end up with a slimy mess, which indicates that it is working properly. You should however, be prepared for a very odoriferous compost pile. This is really more suitable to households with larger tracts of land where the aforementioned odoriferous pile can be placed away from the house or the neighbors.
The Submerged Pile

This method of creating anaerobic compost is very similar to that which is has been in use by the Chinese for centuries and involves keeping your compost under water. For this you will need a large tank, plastic pool or tank that is big enough to hold your compost and then be filled with water. As your compost pile decomposes the odors are trapped in the water. While slightly more involved than a standard anaerobic compost pile, your neighbors will certainly appreciate it.
anaerobic composting in a fieldThe Big Bag Theory

You have probably seen this method in use in the local farmers’ fields, this would be the long white bags that lay in the fields over the winter. This version is a little simpler and a lot smaller. You can use a large heavy duty plastic garbage bag. You first layer the bottom of the bag with soil or cured compost, then add your compost and add enough water to make everything moist. Seal the bag so that no air can get in and roll it to get things started and then leave it alone for 6-8 weeks.
No Hole in My Bucket

Off all the different forms of anaerobic composting, the bucket method is perhaps the easiest and least offensive. This is a long term project and will take up to a year to create the compost you are looking for. You simple cut the bottom from a five gallon bucket and plant it a few inches into the ground. You then fill it with your scraps and organic waste, place the lid on it and forget it for a year. Do not open until the year has passed or you will let in more oxygen and ruin the process. As you can see a fair amount of patience is required for this method. At the end of the year you will have perfectly usable humus. All of these forms of anaerobic composting work well, some will produce more compost than others, while at the same time creating a rather smelly situation.

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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

Sherm, check the animal control (pound) and at any local feed stores! Nancy

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weirdtrev

I think it is about your own level of comfort if this is for personal use. I am sure some people would never do that whereas I would say as long as you clean them to the best of your ability it shouldn't be an issue. I would expect it to be more of a surface contaminant issue, if anything. Meaning that if you think they are contaminated maybe don't grow root crops near them.

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ZinZin

Thanks for that.

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ju1234((8 Dallas TX))

Are you growing it for seed? Then cover the red all the way with soil. The plant probably needs less water, more sun. I do that with all root vegs to get seed the same season. Cut about an inch below the top, eat the bottom part, replant the top. It will seed the same season.

If you are trying to grow the root part again to get another carrot out of it, I don't think that works. All you will get is hairy rootlets growing from the edge of the carrot.

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tcstoehr(8b Canby, OR)

Yes, they're aphids. Common this time of year on cabbage family crops. I've got them on my brussels sprouts and collards too.

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Mark(Oregon, Zone 8)

Yeah, that's very common. If the aphids are on the sprouts themselves, you'll have to wash them before eating. I find that soaking the sprouts for an hour or so helps.

As the weather gets colder the aphids will die off but unfortunately they leave behind quite a mess.

-Mark

Ps. Hey tcstoehr, i'm next door to you in Oregon City. Small world!

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