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farmerdill

No, You have until about June 1. They will be late ripening. Late August-September.

    Bookmark     May 23, 2014 at 8:32AM
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wayne_5 zone 6a Central Indiana

farmerdill, You took the words out of my mouth..lol

    Bookmark     May 23, 2014 at 11:23AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

As i posted on another thread of yours IF Bacterial Wilt is what you have - and there are ways to get a definitive diagnosis - then what you can grow in that area without first treating the soil will be severely limited.

BW has at least two or three different bacteria that cause the disease and that allows it to affect many different crops depending on which of the bacteria is in your soil.

It can infect all of the cucurbit family, many of the squash varieties, all of the solanaceous crops, and even many grasses.

So once the diagnosis is confirmed extensive treatment that includes intensive long-term solarization, beneficial nematodes, and acidification of the soil is recommended before planting anything there.

Lots of info with both making the diagnosis and treating the soil is available from your local county ag extension and online too.

Dave

    Bookmark     May 23, 2014 at 10:53AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

I think proactive scheduled spraying for Powdery Mildew and tomato Blight are important to prevent it from happening I am talking about my own situation. Pest/insects control is a different issue. In most cases you have to identify it first and then fight it.
I have already sprayed my tomato plants with neem oil once. I will do it in another 2 weeks or so. With squash, cucumbers I will also do it bi weekly.

So it really depend on your situation and what you are growing.

    Bookmark     May 23, 2014 at 4:16AM
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planatus(6)

Let's not forget to stay on top of resistant varieties, as the original poster mentioned. I won't grow a cuke that's not resistant to PM and bacterial wilt, and my tomatoes are evenly divided between OPs and the latest blight-resistant hybrids, which are amazing.

    Bookmark     May 23, 2014 at 9:39AM
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rgress

My guess is that it is a sunflower seedling.
Also possible is Zinnia seedling.

    Bookmark     May 23, 2014 at 9:27AM
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planatus(6)

Looks kinda like a jerusalem artichoke sprout to me. Where there is one, there are many.

    Bookmark     May 23, 2014 at 9:32AM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

zackey: if it's still there, I'm sure it's still installed. But, to check --- tools, add-ons, extensions.

I'm thinking malware. Download malwarebytes free version and do a scan. If it doesn't get it, download combofix and run it.

Kevin

    Bookmark     May 23, 2014 at 12:43AM
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shaxhome

Do you mean ABP (AdBlock Plus)?

If it is installed and you're still getting pop-ups, follow Woohooman's advice and install the FREE Malwarebytes, then run a scan.

Get it directly from its home site, and make sure you get the FREE version, not the Trial or paid(Premium) one...

Here is a link that might be useful: Malwarebytes

    Bookmark     May 23, 2014 at 3:47AM
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noki

It didn't really frost this month, but it has been cold and wet many days, a continuation of the cold winter. What confuses me is that it is just the 'Golden Summer' and 'Red Belt' plants from one nursery. They were fine last week. The oldest leaves are fine also.

    Bookmark     May 23, 2014 at 1:56AM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

Maybe the nursery had them out in the frost? Dunno. Odd that damage wasn't apparent at time of purchase if it is frost damage.

Like I mentioned before, just clip those affected leaves and look out for new foliage before pulling them.

Kevin

    Bookmark     May 23, 2014 at 2:43AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

No you don't have to use rows. Many folks use Sq Foot gardening guidelines but don't use Mel's Mix in the bed. You can plant just as Sq foot does and work more nutrients into each square or you can reduce the number you put in each square. It is up to you. But either way you will have to add more nutrients to what you have so far.

And if you are direct seeding then all you have to do if it looks overcrowded after they germinate is just thin the plants out. Even as they grow if it gets over crowded remove a couple. Don't over-complicate the process. Nothing says once planted it has to stay there if it is creating problems. Pull it so the others can do well.

Dave

    Bookmark     May 22, 2014 at 1:14PM
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stuffradio

Planting in native ground is very hit and miss. For example, a few years back I started trying to grow vegetables for the first time.I planted Radishes and they were growing and getting leafy. The problem is that they weren't bulbing up ever. A year later, I tried again with another area, and the Radishes did really well! So native soil can be hit and miss.

    Bookmark     May 23, 2014 at 1:16AM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

I agree. Looks like natural leaf pattern siivering to me. Nothing to worry about, imo.

Kevin

    Bookmark     May 22, 2014 at 11:58AM
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AiliDeSpain(6a - Utah)

Normal silvering of the leaves as Dave said, I get it on my green zucchini every year.

    Bookmark     May 23, 2014 at 1:14AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Definitely some kind of cucurbit, as Farmerdill already said and I agree with. 60% cucumber.

    Bookmark     May 22, 2014 at 11:28PM
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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

I was thinking that exact same thing, Kevin. Bottom leaf looks very much like it belongs to a cucumber.

Rodney

    Bookmark     May 23, 2014 at 12:17AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Environmental damage - sun scald/wind burn. Both common in spring plantings depending on where you are located - which would be nice to include in the space provided for best info.

Poses no long term harm to the plants unless they weren't well hardened off prior to planting.

Dave

    Bookmark     May 22, 2014 at 11:31PM
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daved314(6)

The sun damage would be consistent with our weather ��" there have been a few consecutive sunny days lately and until then the plants had been in a sunroom waiting for nighttime temperatures to drop.

I filled in the zone box. Missed it when posting from my phone and didn't even think about the importance. Hopefully it doesn't show much more about me other than being new to the art.

Thank you all! Looking forward to learning a lot more this summer.

Dave

    Bookmark     May 22, 2014 at 11:49PM
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sandpapertongue(7a VA)

That happens to me sometimes when I'm reading on my cellphone, but then if I click the little square where the image should be, it opens up a new page with the photo.

    Bookmark     May 22, 2014 at 8:54PM
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beeman_gardener(5)

Check your permissions. Some browsers have images turned off.

    Bookmark     May 22, 2014 at 10:45PM
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hobbiest

Dave,
Thanks for the reply. I`ll try having a look at the plants after dark to see if it is slugs. I have seen them before eating away at my radishes and turnips in times past. Haven`t seen any beetles yet but that doesn`t mean that they haven`t been visiting me while I was away from the garden. That could be a possibility. The bird suggestion could be viable too. I see some occasionally hopping around in the beans.

Terry,
no signs of MBB and no yellow eggs under the foliage. I know MBB quite well. LOL! Seem to see them show up every year. I hate it when they do that. Those suckers have come to the "party" more than once. They usually show up later in the growing season though with regularity. Maybe it is slugs. A night time outing is going to happen in the near future.

This post was edited by hobbiest on Thu, May 22, 14 at 18:26

    Bookmark     May 22, 2014 at 6:22PM
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terry_neoh(5b)

Just one last suggestion - small slugs (1/4" - 1/2") move slow so it takes time to up the plant, but they prefer tender new growth. If you are an early riser, check before dawn rather than early nighttime.
-Terry

    Bookmark     May 22, 2014 at 7:52PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Perhaps the folks over on the California Gardening forum can help. They's be far more familiar with local store sources. Seeds are readily available online.

Dave

    Bookmark     May 22, 2014 at 6:24PM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

John: Finally got around to taking a few pics. I may bot have the space for even a dwarf. Check these out.

I thought maybe here but seems too narrow and it would fight to get good sun all day. :(

This would be the only sunlight after noon

This would be in the way before noon(notice the fence at the bottom of pic

I thought also maybe right here, but I'd have to remove the ornamental in the corner

Probably should just stick with the Sharwil, huh?

Kevin

    Bookmark     May 22, 2014 at 6:11PM
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johns.coastal.patio(USDA 10b, Sunset 24)

That is kind of tight. The only place for a fruit tree seems to be where the ornamental is ... and then you'd be giving the last space to that fruit tree.

Always good to have a slot in reserve ;-)

    Bookmark     May 22, 2014 at 6:14PM
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