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tishtoshnm Zone 6/NM

I would like a built in screen to use with compost or worm castings. I would put a container underneath to capture the sifted material. This should easily lift out for cleaning. That would be on one end. On the other end of a long table, I would want a sink with a sprayer. I would also want a shelf above the main work area with cup hooks for having my tools within easy reach. I would not include garden tools as that is a very personal thing, everybody has their own favorites. I think the power strip is an awesome idea.

Now, my creative juices are running but too bad I have far too many things to do this year.

    Bookmark   March 30, 2014 at 8:54PM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

Great ideas! Keep them coming! Thanks!
We are now thinking of building to order, offering many of these things as options! Nancy

    Bookmark   March 30, 2014 at 9:01PM
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veggiecanner(Id 5/6)

If you are working with a new garden I would use the spacing you listed.
If bean get too crowded the blossoms won't get pollinated.

    Bookmark   March 30, 2014 at 7:17PM
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grow_life(6A OH)

Radishes can go in around the tomatoes at planting time. They will be harvested before the tomatoes crowd the area. Beets can probably do the same. This will free up some space.

    Bookmark   March 30, 2014 at 8:57PM
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daninthedirt(Cent TX; HZ10, Sunset z30, USDA z8a)

CoState extension has a nice fact sheet on this. See link below.

This sheet make the good point that seed storage is greatly aided by making them, and keeping them dry. The latter is where a freezer has an advantage, as the air in the freezer is especially dry. But when I store my seed in the fridge, I do so with seed packages in a plastic zipper bag that has some dessicant envelopes in it. Also (and this is important!) DO NOT open that plastic zipper bag while the contents are cold. Water vapor from the air will immediately condense on the seeds. Only open that bag after the contents have warmed up thoroughly. Then take the seeds, zip it back up, and throw it back in the fridge.

It is important to understand that seeds themselves are hydroscopic. That means they automatically absob water, which is certainly a survival trait. So the dessicant is important. You need something to absorb the water vapor at least as fast as the seeds do. Common DIY dessicants are rice grains and powdered milk, but I suspect silica gel works better.

I'm not sure about this, but I think the main trick for freezing seeds is to make sure that they are first well dried. Freezing a seed that is not dried will damage it.

Just throwing a resealed paper seed package in the fridge is probably not a smart thing to do.

Here is a link that might be useful: Storing Flower and Vegetable Seeds

    Bookmark   March 30, 2014 at 11:09AM
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veggiecanner(Id 5/6)

I have onion seeds I've kept in the freezer for 5 years and they still germinate well.
Onions usually last only one or 2 years.

    Bookmark   March 30, 2014 at 6:43PM
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Maynard1980

By the way, leaving it in a pile was not an option, since it's in the front of my house and needed to go, some way or another. I can either move it to the back yard or spread it out.

    Bookmark   March 29, 2014 at 10:30AM
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rhizo_1 (North AL) zone 7

I'd spread it out broadly as a mulch. I put fresh wood chips down every year and it soon disappears into my heavy clay soil, which is improving over the years! No pests, no problem with nitrogen, nothing but positive benefits.

    Bookmark   March 30, 2014 at 6:04PM
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LoneCowboy(8)

I grow in raised beds too. I do remove the grass, place a sheet of weedblock, and then lay a foundation of cardboard 2 layers thick. I still get 3 or 4 shoots of grass through the year but its easier to manage this way. 8" in plenty. I'm getting along quite will with 6" deep beds :)

Good luck!

LC

    Bookmark   March 30, 2014 at 11:35AM
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galinas(5B)

Plants usually need more then 8 inches for the root system. So you have two choices - dig in or raise high. When I started my garden where I live now there was no even lawn loam. It was fill - gravel, bricks and clay/sand with 2 inches of top soil on top. I couldn't afford to build high beds and buy all the soil I need for them, so I dug about a foot deep, sifted out rocks and derbies from clay/sand and mixed what left with compost and pit moss I bought. Then I built additional 10 inches wooden beds on top. I placed about 5 inches of gravel I sifted out on the bottom of my holes for drainage, then placed turf I dug from the lawn grass down, roots up and then filled the rest with the soil mix I made. Yea... That was a big job. But at the time I didn't see any other options - I was just starting the garden and didn't want to invest much in the project with unknown outcome).

    Bookmark   March 30, 2014 at 4:20PM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

maynard: Hope you don't feel like you were lambasted here. The 3 posters other than me that replied are 3 of the most knowledgeable and respectful people on GW.

I was confused also. You said, "My tomatoes and pepper seedlings were planted about two months ago," From that, I assumed they were about 4 months old(sow, 8 weeks growing, and then PLANTED SEEDLINGS 2 months ago(key words). LOL... even here in SoCal, 2 month PLANTED seedlings would have been way too early to let the kids out to play.

Anyhow, like rhizo1 said, should have getting them weak doses shortly after the first leaves.

And like others hinted, there can be other factors like temps, light, and pot size. If you're still a few weeks away, you might want to "pot up." Get them into a bit larger pot(scratch root ball first), water thoroughly, and then start hardening them off for the next week on warm days. After that first week of hardening, you may want to give them some weak doses of ferts. For the remaining weeks, get them as much direct sun as possible as long as the temps aren't too cold.

Hope your view of GW hasn't been tainted. There are some really great folk here(especially those that replied) and I don't know where I'd be personally without them.

Happy gardening!

Kevin

    Bookmark   March 30, 2014 at 12:03PM
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Slimy_Okra(2b)

If the potting mix has had slow-release fertilizer added, I start supplementing after about 4 weeks. If no fertilizer has been added, I supplement a few days after germination with weak soluble fertilizer.
2 month-old-seedlings would need to be in 4" pots at the minimum, but 1-gallon pots are preferable.

    Bookmark   March 30, 2014 at 2:24PM
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lgteacher(SCal)

Snails and slugs make holes like the ones in your photo.

    Bookmark   March 30, 2014 at 11:29AM
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ltilton

I hate to say it, but that fabric isn't going to let in enough light for strawberries.

    Bookmark   March 30, 2014 at 1:56PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Dews and canties are very similar. And I think they are less demanding of direct sun than watermelons.

    Bookmark   March 30, 2014 at 12:52PM
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rhizo_1 (North AL) zone 7

Dave is right....check with the manufacturer. By the way, it's important to mix only what you need for any garden product. Some things (insecticides, fungicides, and herbicides for example) begin to lose efficacy soon after mixing.

    Bookmark   March 27, 2014 at 1:53PM
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mojogardener(z6a / KS)

A few years ago I bought a packet of Sea Magic (?), and mixed it up into the concentrate as stated on the packet. I used it all that summer but had some left over, so I put it on a shelf in my basement that stays a constant 60* and no sunlight. I used it the following summer, but toward the end of the summer it really smelled funky, so I no longer used it as a foilar spray and only as a soil drench with no ill effects. I now use the Neptune's Harvest and put the gallon jug on the same shelf in the basement, I'm a believer in the constant cool temperature and no sunlight.

    Bookmark   March 30, 2014 at 7:37AM
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ltilton

I think that's the red blush.

    Bookmark   March 29, 2014 at 5:05AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

My lettuce seeds germinated and now growing in cold frame. In Another week or so I will transplant them into 4" pots and eventually into the garden. Chards are emerging in cold frame too. Cold frame is dandy in early spring and late fall.

    Bookmark   March 30, 2014 at 3:33AM
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Slimy_Okra(2b)

Onions, garlic, tomatillos, eggplants.
Both deer and rabbits will go for kale and parsnips.

    Bookmark   March 29, 2014 at 8:52PM
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glib(5.5)

It depends. Here in the Goiter Belt they will leave brassicas alone. I have observed this many times (groundhog, though, go for it). They are marginally iodine deficient, and brassicas (which are goitrogenic) may get them sick. Here they will eat beet, chard, chicory first.

    Bookmark   March 29, 2014 at 9:19PM
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Teresenarlington

Hi, I'm in Arlington also. I'm working on improving my 2nd veggie garden. I love your seedling/light set up. Right now I am using a bedroom window. This bipolar weather has me starting really late as far as seeds or planting. Good luck with your ambitious garden. Soooo many plants.

    Bookmark   March 25, 2014 at 8:10PM
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bman123(7b/8a DFW TX)

Hi Syntria,
I also live in the DFW area and have a whole new garden this year. As for soil- what is this bulk compost place you speak of? I ordered 5 cubic yards of Premium Soil Mix from Silver Creek Materials in Fort Worth. The mixture is 40% sand and 60% compost. Everything planted so far is doing great. I added cotton burr compost, chicken manure, and cow manure to each of the beds with the new soil to boost nutrients/nitrogen. Anyways, that Premium Soil Mix is $25 per cubic yard, and they can have it delivered that day. If you haven't built your beds already, I encourage you to check them out.

    Bookmark   March 29, 2014 at 4:01PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Too early for squash even in zone 9 from what I have read from the other gardeners there. But maybe it will survive if the weather cooperates.

You will have to hand pollinate. There is a FAQ here with all the info on how to do it. Just click on the blue FAQ button right below the Forum Instructions at the top of the page.

As for shading, normally the plant leaves provide enough. In this case since there are so few leaves you may have to. But it is only going to make growing it this early more difficult. As the plant develops the later fruit should be protected enough.

Dave

    Bookmark   March 29, 2014 at 12:34PM
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triciagrace07

Thanks for the help, I'll try the hand pollinating...I only tried one of these plants since it is still cooler here, good thing I guess.

    Bookmark   March 29, 2014 at 2:03PM
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nc_crn

They'll show better coloration with exposure to sunlight (especially full sun).

    Bookmark   March 29, 2014 at 12:56AM
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cugal(5b-6a NE Ks)

Thanks nc-crn! I had read that but wasn't sure it was valid.... I'm looking at pics of this mix at maturity and there's a huge difference in color compared to my seedlings......

    Bookmark   March 29, 2014 at 12:37PM
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jonathanpassey(Utah z5)

Well, this depends on your garden plot and what your are growing.

in the summer i imagine it makes little difference. in the early spring or late fall the sun will be much farther to the south. folks with greenhouses or tunnels will often orient them east west so that they can take advantage of the south sun in the winter.

if you grow tall vegetables or grow vegetables vertically up a trellis then orienting your beds north south can create shade on the other beds for as much as half the day. in such cases, most would recommend an east west bed with the trellis on the north side of it. then your trellis or tall vegetables can shade the path on the north side of the bed.

in the summer i have sun from sunup to sundown so i don't mind my trellises shading my other beds for part of the day since they all get plenty of sun anyhow.

i don't think there is a clear cut answer to this. design your garden how it pleases you and just plant accordingly.

although i'd say that if you want to have a low tunnel or greenhouse to orient it east west for sure.

jon

    Bookmark   March 29, 2014 at 9:53AM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

Yes, that's what I was trying to figure out. I plan on having trellises for beans and large tomato cages for tomatoes. I wanted one long bed of each, and running them east to west, but one behind the other will still shade the one in back. So I thought I might put one east to west and then one north to south on one side of the plot. Maybe the west side, because with trees to my west, the sun sets about 3 or 4pm anyway.

I don't get full sun all day. I have trees and a house that shade things and the most I get is 6hrs tops. And in the fall I get less. So I won't be putting in a greenhouse or hoop house, just doesn't seem worth it.

    Bookmark   March 29, 2014 at 10:30AM
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