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jimmy56_gw (zone 6 PA)

I'm in zone 6 PA and just planted my melon seeds in the garden, I rake the soil in rolls about 6 inches high and about 16 inches wide (Raised Rows), Then cover with black plastic especially since the weather has been so messed up so far this year, I always have better luck planting my seeds in the garden instead of transplanting.

    Bookmark     May 14, 2014 at 9:53PM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

What kind of black mulch? If it's the wood chips, you can still hand water. Maybe lay a soaker hose or drip irrigation before laying down your mulch.
I don't use drip cause I have tons of minerals in my water and they tend to clog. I prefer to hand water (therapy) or use the soaker hose and the oven timer or my watch (or cell phone) timer. Nancy

    Bookmark     May 14, 2014 at 9:27PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

If you mean landscape fabric then water passes through it. it has holes in it. Plus you cut holes in it to plant the plants so you water easily around the plants.

Dave

    Bookmark     May 14, 2014 at 9:38PM
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Wild lambsquartersIs this lambsquarters?
Posted by beetree May 13, 2014
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beetree

Well I'm happy it's good to eat we have 6 acres of it lol

    Bookmark     May 14, 2014 at 12:23PM
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zeedman Zone 5 Wisconsin

Lambsquarters is a delicious & nutritious cooked green... but if you have never tried it, I would recommend only eating a small quantity at first, until you know how your digestive system will handle it.

    Bookmark     May 14, 2014 at 5:40PM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

Looks a tad like tarragon but only with the subliminal suggestion from galinas ;)

Looks almost like Alyssum pre-bloom.

Kevin

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 5:21PM
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floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK

Still unconvinced by any of the ids so far. Looking forward to more pictures.

    Bookmark     May 14, 2014 at 3:59PM
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brookw_gw

You can take a decent harvest from 3rd yr gus. Just quit once the spears start getting small--below pencil size.

    Bookmark     May 14, 2014 at 2:04PM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

And the conclusion?

I'm guessing you're going to leave a swath of wheat to shade them. Am I right? :)

Kevin

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 5:32PM
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wertach zone 7-B SC

Yes Kevin, you are right!

I will have to remember to do the same next spring, I love fresh peas.

I picked a mess of peas and had them for supper last night, they are sooooo good!

    Bookmark     May 14, 2014 at 9:27AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

I sure would have been concerned about its use in my garden last year but not this year assuming it was exposed to average winter weather (no location given so can only guess about that). This assuming that product is in fact what they used.

As for the nests of chipmunks that all depends on how you feel about killing them by moving them or delaying planting and letting them mature and leave on their own. I'm a country-dwelling wildlife softie so I'd plant elsewhere and leave them alone until they mature but it is your choice of course.

Once they are gone then I'd suggest a thorough tilling of the entire bed to destroy the tunnels, seal/caulk any access points, and give some thought to fencing/enclosing the bed in some manner so that they can't return.

Dave

    Bookmark     May 12, 2014 at 7:28PM
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planatus(6)

One of the things about pyrethroid insecticides is their fast knock-down. Insects are immobilized instantly upon contact, so it is not likely that they carried the insecticide more than a few inches from where it was applied. With an active hornet nest present, I doubt that chipmunks visited the freshly treated area, either.

We start watching for yellow jacket and bald-faced hornet nests about now, and terminate those in bad locations. Boiling water poured down the entry hole at night will make them move on. On level ground, covering the entry hole with a translucent bowl will slowly extinguish a nest, too.

I've noticed that the yellow jackets often relocate in midsummer. We look for new nests in late June so as not to be taken by surprise, but we try to keep a yellow jacket nest close to (but not in) the garden. In years with a working yellow jacket nest nearby, we never see a cabbageworm on fall broccoli and cabbage.

    Bookmark     May 14, 2014 at 7:52AM
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melikeeatplants

could be cutworms...they come out at night from soil....

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 5:53PM
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galinas(5B)

I don't think bottle will help with squirrels - they will knock it out. With the rest of the bugs, as soon as they do not come from soil - it should help.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 8:07PM
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Deeby

I decided to use sliced radishes sprinkled with sea salt for "potato chips". It makes sense to me-radish slices have crunch and saltiness so why not have a healthy and still flavorful "chip"? Just as good with a sandwich as chips IMO.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 2:44PM
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ZachS. z5 Littleton, CO

Those actually sound like some good ideas! Now, if only my radishes hadn't gotten smashed into sad little heaps by the snow yesterday ...

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 4:42PM
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Slimy_Okra(2b)

Mindy, bok choy is one of those things that only work as a fall crop. Spring-planted, as you say, bolts and gets tough very quickly. In your zone, I'd direct-seed it outside in mid to late August.
It can be covered with a low tunnel to prolong the fall harvest period but it is not as hardy as kale or spinach. Harvest it before night temperatures drop below the mid-20s.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 12:15PM
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ltilton

Here's some of my Mei Qing Choi, ready to pick as baby choi, which is how I like it. The one on the right seems to be a different kind, so I'll probably pick it first, today.

I don't know how long all these will stand, but it's sure been a cold spring.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 2:51PM
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galinas(5B)

They also don't like even partial shade. So if they not in a full sun it make take much longer.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 1:19PM
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MChamberlain(5b)

It's been full sun, pretty moist and thinned to 1 inch...

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 2:07PM
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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

Need nitrogen.

    Bookmark     May 11, 2014 at 2:26AM
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soraystud(5)

In agreement with the folks who mentioned overwatering. Peppers prefer an irregular deep watering rather than a shallow, daily watering.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 8:16AM
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tishtoshnm Zone 6/NM

Thank you, yes, I meant width (there are hazards to posting too late at night). I will go with 4 feet, as I prefer not to have overhang of the pumpkins. Overhang means it is difficult to see if there are snakes hiding, I like my paths to be rather clear. I am on the taller side and my back is fine so reaching in the 4 feet is not much of a problem (knees are harder for me but no matter the width, I will have to bend down when not using a hoe for weeding). All beds will be double dug at least 18 inches, I hate going to plant and hitting the hardware cloth. Thank you for all input.

    Bookmark     May 11, 2014 at 6:15PM
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mckenziek(9CA)

You can train the pumpkin vines to stay in a three foot wide bed. Every day just move the very end of any vine that is starting to hang over.

But there is nothing wrong with 4 foot beds either. Mine are all 4 feet by 8 feet.

McKenzie

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 12:41AM
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Slimy_Okra(2b)

Root maggots are a major issue around here. I posted a thread a couple weeks ago about using row covers to stop the adult flies from laying eggs in the first place, if you want to do a search for it. There's also a thread on using tulle as a barrier against other small insects.

I finally decided to splurge on something called Proteknet Insect Netting which comes by the roll and is cheaper than tulle when purchased in bulk.

    Bookmark     May 12, 2014 at 10:03PM
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marcantonio

a little secret, at planting time ad some powered ginger in the planting hole and on the surface near and even on the plant. sprinkle some every week or two. till plants are larger.hope this helps. works for all in the cabbage family.

    Bookmark     May 12, 2014 at 11:03PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

An A-frame trellis staked down on both sides of the bed would do the job.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: A-frame trellis images

    Bookmark     May 8, 2014 at 11:52AM
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Asterid

Thank you Dave, I have some scrap lumber and hinges and will be trying a variant of this design:
http://www.vegetablegardener.com/item/8315/diy-a-frame-veggie-trellis

Will use string instead of mesh.

    Bookmark     May 12, 2014 at 10:42PM
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