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ltilton

Probably. Potatoes sprouts often freeze back to the seed piece, but the seed piece sprouts new ones.

    Bookmark     April 23, 2014 at 7:12PM
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jayokie

A big thank you to all who responded! I'll check out the FAQ (thanks, also, for that link). Your feedback is greatly appreciated!

    Bookmark     April 23, 2014 at 3:54PM
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loribee2(CA 9)

Not to repeat what others have said, but I keep mine on a shelf in my office in a small box. When I get those silica packets in new purses or shoes, I toss those in my seed box. If you buy quality seeds, they will last many seasons.

    Bookmark     April 23, 2014 at 4:08PM
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nuckphoto(6)

I put in a raised bed (12") over Bermuda without digging it up or killing it and that stuff has no problem coming up in the raised bed, especially along the inside edges. Next time I'll certainly kill it first and use the cardboard method described above.

Good luck.

    Bookmark     April 23, 2014 at 2:52PM
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nuckphoto(6)

I put in a raised bed (12") over Bermuda without digging it up or killing it and that stuff has no problem coming up in the raised bed, especially along the inside edges. Next time I'll certainly kill it first and use the cardboard method described above.

Good luck.

    Bookmark     April 23, 2014 at 2:57PM
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aloha10

Check out the Ohio State Bulletin online. It is quite complete and I have followed it successfully a few times. They recommend only a five to six inch depth.

    Bookmark     April 23, 2014 at 8:16AM
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Mark(Oregon, Zone 8)

I plant mine about a foot deep but leave the trench open and only cover the crowns with a few inches of soil. Then I fill it in gradually keeping the growing tips always above the soil level so the young plants can keep photosynthesizing. The following year they'll come up right through that soil on their own.

-Mark

    Bookmark     April 23, 2014 at 1:51PM
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gardenper(8)

The requirements are sounding like they are driving you to get one of those store-bought containers. At least the fencing or chicken wire would be a reasonable building material for some, but that seems to be disallowed.

Buy a trash can for about $20 or less. The 32-gallons are around this price range but are much smaller than 64 cf.

But for a really free option, use the free pallets. Many or most are already 4x4 so you don't even have to worry much about measurements. Make a lid of some sort to fill in that first requirement but I think such a large bin isn't really good to have a lid.

    Bookmark     April 23, 2014 at 12:26PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Why not go over to the Composting forum here as they have FAQS about all the various types of containers you can buy and build already posted. Plus unlimited discussions about the advantages and disadvantages of many of them.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Soil & Composting Forum

    Bookmark     April 23, 2014 at 1:06PM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

Non of our local organic nurseries (We have MANY in Sonoma Co!) have frost sensitive veges out more than a week or so before our last day of frost date (April 15th) and even then they usually have a sign that there is still a possibility of frost and to protect your plants and look at the weather reports for a few weeks.
The big box stores had them out mid March! Buy em, plant em, come back and buy em again when they freeze! Nancy

    Bookmark     April 19, 2014 at 9:01PM
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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

I concur with the others about not using the big box stores as a timing for when to plant stuff. Lowe's already has tomato and pepper seedlings for sale here. In Michigan. We're still at least 3-4 weeks away from the time tomatoes can be planted (even then we have to look out for an occasional frost/low temp). And it's more like 6-8 weeks for peppers. It's still getting down to the 30's at night and it's only 40*F here as I'm writing this.

As for the original question about the Farmer's almanac, I never used it.

Rodney

This post was edited by theforgottenone1013 on Wed, Apr 23, 14 at 11:03

    Bookmark     April 23, 2014 at 11:02AM
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tishtoshnm Zone 6/NM

Or maybe they are just full. I have not had mice trouble in the garden yet, but I certainly can empathize with your heartbreak, is there enough time for you to get more peppers going?

    Bookmark     April 22, 2014 at 2:14PM
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rober49(5 St Louis)

traps baited with peanut butter work pretty good for mice. for voles, find their tunnel entrance holes. set mouse traps at the entrance but tie them down with wire or drill a hole in them & anchor them with a large nail. with the squirrels I live trap them or get out my air rifle. last year I carefully harvested the buckeyes from my bottle brush buckeyes . every one that I planted the squirrels got. I just dispatched one ten minutes ago digging up bulbs.

    Bookmark     April 23, 2014 at 10:49AM
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mckenziek(9CA)

What Mindyw3 suggests seems like a good idea to me. I will try that next time I plant beans.

--McKenzie

    Bookmark     April 23, 2014 at 12:45AM
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theGrowfessor

I just germinated a tray of various beans tonight. I set all if the beans out to soak this morning, so they soaked for about 12 hours. After I put them in the tray I set the tray on a seed heating mat. This is my first time trying this method. I'll be sure to let you know how it goes.

    Bookmark     April 23, 2014 at 9:58AM
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terry_neoh(5b)

The trouble with trying to pick them or killing them one-by-one is that for every one big enough to see, there are a hundred juveniles maybe as small as a grain of barley. And they have appetites, too.

    Bookmark     April 22, 2014 at 7:03PM
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susanzone5(z5NY)

Slugs eat the ferric (iron) phosphate (Sluggo, Correys, etc.) and die from within the "stomach." It doesn't kill them by them crawling over it. It has low to no toxicity. It's not a "poison," unlike the other kinds of slug killers.
The following website has answers to all your questions about it. I find these pellets to be the easiest and safest way to deal with slugs.

Here is a link that might be useful: iron phosphate info

    Bookmark     April 23, 2014 at 9:51AM
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terry_neoh(5b)

I saw a BCS when I bought the Honda, but it was just tiller (I think you could order implements for it.

They were about the same price, but the Honda has 2 forwward speeds (which about doubles the price.) I got it half off, though, since I lived in TN at the time and after 4 years of drought, the dealer has been sitting on it a long time.

I've kept this tiller so long because I don't want to put out the bucks for a new 2 speeder, and I won't have it any other way.

    Bookmark     April 22, 2014 at 1:05PM
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pnbrown

I guess that was a long while ago; my BCS has 3 speeds.

TN? Was it Earthtools?

    Bookmark     April 23, 2014 at 8:00AM
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thecityman, Zone 7a/6b near Nashville

Thanks for the answers. I do have enough space to try my "mutts" so I may do that, though after reading these answers I reordered some new Orangeglo seeds. One thing about trying my mutts....how awful would it be if I turned out to have some incredible new variety and would never be sure how to recreate it! I had a total of 6 varieties of watermelons all together so there is no telling which one may have pollinated the melon I got these seeds from!
I really do appreciate you all explaining the pollination/offspring thing even though it was probably a very elementary question to most of you. I must say I really enjoy growing several different species of watermelons and cantaloupes so I guess I'll just be buying new seeds each year! Thanks again.

    Bookmark     April 22, 2014 at 10:17PM
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elisa_z5

Seeds do last more than one year. (if you had any left over) What I do is I just plant more seeds as the years go by and as germination rates go down.

Then again, in 1/2 acre, maybe you used all your seeds?
So here's a dumb question for you: are you selling watermelons?

    Bookmark     April 22, 2014 at 10:28PM
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susanzone5(z5NY)

I started all my gardens in my last house from tilled lawn. Plant anything you like. Just be sure to take off the clumps of grass in the top 6 inches. Add compost and give it a year of intensive weeding.

    Bookmark     April 21, 2014 at 8:09AM
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terry_neoh(5b)

Cutworms may be prevalent where there was sod. If you plant toatoes, peppers, or brassica plants you can put a little collar of aluminum foil around the stem about an inch above and below the surface.

Unfortunately, you may may still wake up one morning to find a row of beans mowed down. If this happens, try to find the critter just under the soil at the last plant eaten, and send him to the Elysian Fields.

Here is a link that might be useful: cutworm

    Bookmark     April 22, 2014 at 9:36PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

I think you are going to find the Growing from Seed forum here the most helpful. Lots of FAQs covering all the basics including equipment needed, how-tos, recommended soils to use. Just click on the blue FAQ button there.

While many gardeners routinely grow their own transplants from seed indoors, using rockwool is not common or recommended as it is used primarily in hydroponics and has some unique issues potting mixes do not have.

Personally I would return them to the store that pushed them off on you. But if you want to use rockwool specialty equipment will be needed and the folks on the Hydroponics forum here can best help with that,

Good luck.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Growing from Seed forum

    Bookmark     April 22, 2014 at 8:59PM
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meloneer101

Rookie mistake i guess. And our last frost is mid may. But do u think i could still have moderste success with these?

    Bookmark     April 22, 2014 at 6:23PM
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Ohiofem(6a Ohio)

I agree with Wayne_5's method. With a last frost day in mid-May, you could put yours out around June 1. I suggest you start over by planting new seeds 3-4 to a cup around May 1. As he said, it's best if they are no more than three or four weeks old when you plant them outside. Before putting them outside, use scissors to cut all but one of the seedlings out of each cup leaving the healthiest one. Can you give them more light? They need to be very close to a sunny window, and they need sun all day. If you have fluorescent lights, you can grow them one or two inches under the lights and give them 16 hours of light a day.

We all make rookie mistakes. That's how we learn. Don't get discouraged. In my many years of growing plants I've probably killed many more than I was able to brag about.

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

karolena - I agree with howel above - all containers require regular supplemental feedings - weekly is common. Plus your plant is very likely in far too small a container. Very, very few tomato plants can do well in only 3 gallons. They are quickly root bound in such a small pot and that means water and nutrients run right through the pot.

You might also want to do some reading here on the problems with using dry/granular organic fertilizers in containers, especially small containers. There is no soil food web or bacteria in there to convert the organics to a useable form.

Dave

    Bookmark     April 22, 2014 at 4:23PM
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karoleana(USDA 9a AZ)

Thanks Dave and Howel.
My father-in-law follows The Garden Master system http://thegardenmaster.com/. I got some hand me down 5 gallon bags from him but they were not holding up well so I bought what I thought were 5 gallon nursery pots on Craig's list. They turned out to be 3 gallon. He feeds his once a month but it is a special concoction he got from the system. I guess his stuff is extra potent and that 2 gallon difference is significant. I will up the foliar feeds to weekly and see if that helps. I was not aware of problems with using granular fertilizer in containers I will definitely look into that.
I was leery of using a synthetic fertilizer precisely because I wanted to establish some good bacteria and was afraid synthetics would be a detriment to doing that. The rest of my veg looks good but maybe I will run into similar problems as they mature.
Thanks again for the help!

    Bookmark     April 22, 2014 at 5:49PM
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