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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

Two inches broke off from the end of the vine? Yes, they will regrow.

Rodney

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wertach zone 7-B SC

They are a big problem here in SC!

I have been fighting them in my garden for 35 years!

Everyone that I know has them in their gardens and none of us know how they got there!

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chas045(7b)

They are a pain in North Carolina, but you can pull them or hoe them when small. However, re roundup: I often use roundup almost like a hoe on a calm morning. I make sure that the spray is a fine spray but not a mist that will hover and I spray almost at ground level certainly up to only a foot away from beans or whatever. A couple times I have used a cardboard shield in one hand and nozzle in the other and been right up against plants vs. weeds in my iris garden etc.

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daisyjoy5(7 _ NW GA)

But... what do I do with just one piece of okra? LOL

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chas045(7b)

Daisy, it might have been better to start a new thread because rr was answering another portion of the thread. I usually keep okra in a plastic bag for perhaps up to a week. In your case, you could try storing it that way to see how long it lasts, but if it were me, I would throw it away while waiting for more to develop. I don't recall having a single plant having more than two pods ready at one time, but I am attempting to pick them at ~ four inch length. If you fail to pick for a day, many may be too big on the next.

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Slimy_Okra(2b)

You're in the same zone as I am. I'm in central Saskatchewan and we normally have warmer summers than you, but this year it has been very cold and rainy with no change in sight, June has been 3 degrees C below normal.

The watermelon and butternut squash will do better in the greenhouse. That's a given.

The herbs will likely do better outside, especially if you have cool-season herbs (which most herbs are, except basil). Things like dill, cilantro, chives, chervil, rosemary, sage, etc. should be outside and they can tolerate some frost. Only basil needs to be started indoors.

The tomatoes, corn and zucchini could go either way. They like it warm but not hot. I would keep some inside and some outside, so that no matter how the summer turns out this year, you have something. Corn takes up a lot of space so I would put it all outside.

This post was edited by Slimy_Okra on Tue, Jun 24, 14 at 11:58

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floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK

I always keep Basil under glass - the summer heat just isn't intense or reliable enough for it to do really well outside.

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naturegirl_2007 5B SW Michigan(5B SW Michigan)

Yup, an oak seedling. Perhaps a squirrel buried a few in your soil.They love to put them into the soft soils found gardens and garden pots.

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michelliot(z7 ny)

A perfect example of what happens when you bury an acorn.

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ltilton

Alas, I never see a single cuke beetle in the spring. They emerge in massed hordes at the height of summer, obviously through spontaneous generation.

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wayne_5 zone 6a Central Indiana

tilton,, The live over first generation wakes up in mid May here. If you have any of those and emerging cucurbits, they go like a magnet on them and can destroy those small seedlings in a day or so.

If you don't see that generation, then they are generating anyway somewhere and the next generation comes out about the end of June or so...multiplied.

Even if you get later ones, if they are promptly taken care of, 899 stitches can be saved....just a little bit of Sevin sprayed on top of a few leaves at dusk will really decimate them.

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mav72(10b)

Haha that's cool! I've never seen a conjoined squash.

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zeedman Zone 5 Wisconsin

That's fairly common on my squash, especially late in the season. Yellow straightneck does seem to be especially prone, though, I had a lot of doubles last year, and only a couple on zucchini.

Sometimes there is even a leaf or stem running between the two. A few years back, I had a Tromboncino pair with a small vine running between them. I let that squash grow to full size, and picked it just before frost. Sitting on the dining room table, the attached vine bloomed for several weeks... watching it grow made the end of the growing season more bearable.

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ju1234((8 Dallas TX))

Thank you very much.

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mav72(10b)

Hows it go? All zucchini are squash but not all squash are zucchini...

Isn't it the same thing for pumpkins? All pumpkins are squash but not all squash are pumpkins. A friend of mine wont let me call winter squash a squash. She calls them all pumpkins, what ever color shape or form.

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loribee2(CA 9)

Looks to me like a very healthy cucumber plant. Put it this way, it looks healthier than mine do every year, and I get overrun with good tasty cucumbers.

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annew21(7b NC)

Do you have more than one plant? Is it possible that the more T-shaped leaves are actually a different variety of cucumber? Sometimes you get a seed or two in a packet that are not what they are supposed to be.

-Anne

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Jon 6a SE MA

Actually ammonia converts nitrites to nitrates and produces nitrogen which are both fertilizers. I give a yes vote as well.

Jon

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ilovecucumbers Zone 6b, NE PA

Many thanks!

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jkduke22

I had a similar problem a few weeks back. I hand picked all the little worms off (yuck) and then covered up with row covers and they seem to be all gone.

I think you can also use some sprays - BT I think is what was suggested to me. I'm sure someone more experienced on here can verify.

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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

It's cabbage worms. They are little green caterpillars that are hard to see on the plant if you just glance over it. You'll find them if you look. BT is best to use for control when the caterpillars are young. Wasps are good natural predators and hand picking helps. Row covers or tulle works to keep the adults from laying eggs in the first place but they won't work if you already have them on your plants (unless you get rid of them first before covering).

Rodney

This post was edited by theforgottenone1013 on Mon, Jun 23, 14 at 16:44

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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

It's too late for the onions in the six pack to bulb but they are usable at any time. Plant them and either snip off the greens for use like chives or let them grow and pull them as green onions.

A half inch seems deep (to me) for onion seeds but there are too many variables to know what caused them to not sprout. Try sprouting them in cell packs or flats for transplanting.

Rodney

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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

Thanks, I'll try both those suggestions. :-)

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ccabal(7)

I also use tulle, but I remove them when the female flowers come up.. I'll get plenty of squash before the SVBs get to the plants, since it probably takes around 3 weeks until you notice their attacks. (7days for eggs hatching, at least 2 weeks for grubs to grow big enough to cause any damage.)

A couple of issues I see:
- the plants under the covers alway seem more spindly and thinner stemmed. I wonder if the reduced light make them grow longer and thinner. The ones I remove the cover earlier seem to bulk up and grow more bush-like.
- Sometime aphids find their way in. Bad news. They are safe from predators in there and multiply quickly.

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CaraRose

Saw my first borer moth flying around. Tried to hit it with a garden trowel but missed. I hate those things

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loribee2(CA 9)

They look normal to me. All squash does that, the older leaves yellow and die as the plant continues to vine out to newer and greater things. It's the main/new growth to care about and yours look healthy and fine.

If you're referring to those small "dead spots" on the leaves, my cucumbers do that every year, and probably some of my zucchini too. I've never known what it was, but it's never harmed production and the overall plant thrives.

This post was edited by loribee2 on Fri, Jun 20, 14 at 21:25

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tanawa

Thanks for the reply Loribee2! I found out I had spider mites so I sprayed some neem oil on those plants and all the other plants in my garden. Hopefully that is the end of the issue.

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hnycrk(8a)

Nice looking squash farmerdill!

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floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK

I am by no means up on squash since I only grow zucchini.(Courgettes) However, the last two pictures you showed and identified as yellow straight neck squash look exactly like my yellow zucchini. Are you sure that's not what they are? I usually grow a variety called Jemmer. It does sometimes start to bulge in the middle if left a little too long but it is definitely a Zucchini. I always grow yellow so I can see them to pick and none get overlooked to grow into monsters.

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