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pnbrown

IME deer adore pea and bean sprouts above all, so the fact that your beans were not eaten is strange.

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oldseed1

I have had deer problems, had fencing 6' high 4years ago deer went over it and tore it down as there food mast was low. I put the fence back up and added a 45% angle on top. this has worked as I was given this advice from a deer farmer. I used 6' t post 4' range fence and 2' pvc pipe on top with a 45 elbow and 2' pvc out wove the top 4' fence over the pvc. also fastened the 2 4' fence together. I did post photos at backyardchicken.com. the pvc was 1 1/2" diamature. hope this helps. old seed 1. look for post at backyard chicken by 1 old hen

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farmerdill

Exactly, just remove the larger leaves as needed, just don't completely defoliate the plant.

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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

A severe case of powdery mildew. With plants this far gone I'd pull them and replant. I highly doubt they are going to recover and spraying fungicides would be useless. Sorry. If you had caught the PM early enough you could have dealt with it.

I agree with loribee2 about the weeds.

Rodney

This post was edited by theforgottenone1013 on Fri, Jun 20, 14 at 0:42

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macers(10/ sunset 20/21)

Well darn it. Thanks for the replies!

I will pull weeds, but I won't be able to replant this year.

I also have an affected cucumber (opposite side if the garden and it just sprouted from seed?!) and a spaghetti squash. The spaghetti squash has large fruit setting so I'd hate to pull it. Will the fruit still ripen?

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sleevendog (5a NY)(5a NY)

I've been using bamboo trellis systems for years...early on it was a method of tending climbers if dealing with high winds like i have...beans and toms
A bit of bamboo and a roll of twine...

Here is a link that might be useful: bamboo trellis ideas

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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

You can make a simple trellis from 2 by 3 by (6',8', ..)
then screw hooks inside the frame and run twine, to make it like a net.
Here is a sketch I made with PAINT.

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Artichoke & cucumbers have black specksCan anyone identify this?
Posted by macers(10/ sunset 20/21)
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macers(10/ sunset 20/21)

Not moving, although there were lots of what looked like small insects flying around.

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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

some kind of aphid, I second.

Just jet them out with water. Be careful not to damage the leaves.

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galinas(5B)

It looks like acacia tree seeds - do you have any such tree around? They sprout pretty easy in my zone 5 - I pull them out every year. One tree is enough for me)

Here is a link that might be useful:

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zeedman Zone 5 Wisconsin

I agree that it looks like a tree seed, although I would suspect a fruit tree, which would explain how the seeds are being dispersed (possibly by animals eating the fruit). In California, there could be a lot of exotic fruit trees to choose from. If there are loquats nearby, that would be my first guess. I was fortunate to live near a property with a lot of loquats when I lived in SoCal, they are wonderful eaten fresh, and the seeds resemble those in the photo.

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nickjoseph(5 Milwaukee, WI)

Plaidbird,
No, I really don't have anywhere to attach string to. These are actually in a garden plot. Maybe some kind of wooden trellis? My mom thought that we could put a tomato cage behind them--but there is only about 5 inches behind them where our brick garage starts--so a cage would not fit.

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plaidbird

I'm getting a better picture now. Sure a trellis will work. In fact, for three beans, you could probably make a little trellis with things you find around. I've done trellises out of what ever was closest sometimes. Twigs go together with twine, just be sure to use at least one tall, sturdy stick as the main support.

I had a neighbor that plants two or three red runner beans and lets them run up a long piece of bamboo. I miss seeing it now that she's moved. Used to be there every year.

If you have the name of the type of bean, goggle it to see how tall it gets then you can plan ahead. The ones I have this year say eight feet.

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

I believe my grafting days are done......... ;)

I think you'll find that to be true for many.

Grafted tomatoes were first developed to aid in coping with heavily infested soil borne diseases, the terminal viral diseases that are a common problem in much of the deep south. It was supposed to give the plant additional resistance and to a degree it works.

But from there the concept seemed to explode - thanks to a hyperbole-filled marketing strategy - to all parts of the country. Even where the viral diseases didn't exist.

All sorts of additional benefits were claimed - "2x the production". bigger fruit, better tasting fruit, guaranteed to prevent Early Blight (which is air borne), etc. etc. All of those claims allowed the high prices for the plants, the grafting tools, etc.

But tomato plants have been grown successfully for centuries without grafting so eventually common sense will prevail. :)

Dave

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gltrap54

Yuup, even at 60+ years old I'm still paying for my education.... Now that's a student loan........ LOL

My biggest issue with hybrid plants has been EB... I've worked diligently to avoid this evil, but it still rears it's ugly head! Holding my breath at the moment.....

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mdy113

there is a drain hole and i have been using liquid plant food in the water mix about every two weeks. ya was just shocked to see so many ichiban growing fruit when i came back and none yet on the black beauty and also the yellow leaves, so just wanted to make sure. guess we shall see. pot may be tad undersized too i suppose, first year trying eggplants so all new to me

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howelbama(7 NJ)

They'll start producing soon. Mine are usually about 3 weeks or so behind the ichibans. Seysonn is right, ichibans produce early, prolifically, and through to fall. The black beauties are later, not as prolific, and don't last quite as long. They are still respectable producers though and are good for culinary variety.

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agrocoders(6)

Chickenwire is expensive. A loose string net hung from the fence would have been better. You can try bush bean varieties but they don't bare as much as pole beans. We usually plant in with the corn.

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CourtneyB123

I will definitely do something whether it be chicken wire or something for them to cling onto! Wow who would've guessed they grew that high!

Are there many pests or bugs that eat/damage beans in south florida? As I may have mentioned, didn't have a very successful season for cucumbers or summer squash. :(

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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

I would pour it on the compost pile and let the microbes get at it.

You can also bake bread with it, make soup with it. ..

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lazy_gardens

The traditional use of whey was to feed hogs.

The hog manure was then used on the garden as fertilizer.

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CaraRose

Ladybug larva, yep. Helping you with your aphid problems

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dirtguy50 SW MO z6a(6a)

Definitely a beneficial. Lucky you.

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

It is called Downy Mildew - lots of info available on it now that you have the name. It can be prevented or controlled with fungicide sprays when caught early but this is already far too advanced in your photo to save. I'd pull and destroy the plant and replant.

Dave

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daisyjoy5(7 _ NW GA)

Dave you are a wealth of information. :)

For the most part my garden has been looking fantastically healthy, but in the last two weeks it seems there has been a downturn. I'm guessing daily rain hasn't helped.

I've looked up some info on that - I did already pull that particular plant but have a couple of others that I guess I'll do next. It appears it is a fungal issue, so I assume this means it can affect its neighbors. Sad, but... I guess these things happen.

I did a little more research and it seems the squash has wet rot, judging by the moldy baby fruits. Ah well, I have a second set growing so maybe it will make up for it. I may try staking them... especially if the weather continues as it has lately.

Thank you!

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elisa_z5

They play dead and drop when you get near, so rather than trying to grab them, it will be easier to hold a bucket or jar of soapy water under them and knock them into it. you should be able to get 50 or 60 in about 5 minutes, and then keep going!

You can also hire neighborhood kids to drown them. When we were kids, that was a lucrative job in our neighborhood.

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annew21(7b NC)

I'm having the same problem. I'm also in NC. I drop them in a bucket of soapy water just like elisa_Z5 suggests, and then I leave the bucket out next to the garden. I am probably just imagining this, but it seems to keep them away for a couple days.

-Anne

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msmorningsong(SW FL 10A)

Thank you so much for all of the responses. It looks like Diva is getting everyone's vote, so will try that. Also, the Armenian is a relative of cuke, but sounds so tempting, I might try this one as well. Just for a chance of different flavor. ju_12234, what exactly does it taste like to you?
It also says it's great for hot climates, which I have.

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djkj(9b)

On Seed Savers Exchange there is an organic cucumber variety called "Poona Kheera" which is not only an absolutely delicious cucumber variety but has less "burp effects" and the burps, if at all are actually less bothersome. Just make sure you harvest these cukes before the skin turns brown.

I am growing this variety this year as well in my garden.

Here is a link that might be useful: Poona Kheera

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