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celestial(Zone-Enabled)

Years ago, I used a spray to try to increase tomato plant brix (sugar), but not necessarily to sweeten the tomatoes. I read higher brix levels help the plant fend off insects and disease. The spray included, among other things, a little blackstrap molasses. I also tested using Epsom salt in the planting hole, but not sure if it really did much. My best tip for sweet tomatoes is to neglect the plants--dry soil makes the sweetest tomatoes (and the sweetest, hottest chili peppers).

    Bookmark     April 30, 2015 at 12:51PM
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J M (zone 5a)

I vote Myth. Show me data.

    Bookmark     May 1, 2015 at 12:27PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

It can be as simple or as complicated as folks want to make it.

I just snap them off the potato and bury them about half way down in the moist soil. If they are really long just snap them in half or thirds and plant. Water it as needed until they root and you see new leaf growth. Simple. Done it for 50 years and always get sweet potatoes. :)

No need to even cut the potatoes in half or put them in water. They grow sprouts all on their own without either. Many discussions here about this - some with pics. The search pulls up over a hundred discussions on growing sweet potatoes.

The shoots will grow in just about anything. Whether or not they will produce potatoes all depends on giving them good soil to grow in and room to spread.

If you want to root them first then moist potting mix works better than water as the feeder roots will develop in the soil (only water roots develop in water).

Dave

    Bookmark     April 29, 2015 at 4:17PM
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beesneeds(zone 6)

Thanks Dave, this was just what I was looking for. There is so much info out there, it ended up being kind of overwhelming as to what was the "right" way to do it. Glad to know it can be pretty simple :)

    Bookmark     May 1, 2015 at 6:18AM
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yolos - z 7b/8a Ga.

Thank you planterjeff, that was exactly the information I was looking for. I won't be able to plant the sweet potatoes in the raised bed until the Garden Peas finish. The peas just started setting pods. With this cool weather we are having, I just may get some peas this spring. So I will try rooting my sweet potato vines in small pots.

    Bookmark     April 30, 2015 at 8:20PM
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purslanegarden(Zone 8)

Saw a YT video once where the person lays some cutting flat on the ground (maybe it was about 6"). Using some kind of stick or tool with a notch in it, he pushes down into the ground at the middle section, with the notch connecting there at the middle of the cutting. The result is that the center of the cutting is the part that is buried, and the plant has two stems coming up out of the ground. His plants grew just fine that way also, without other additional time used to strip leaves or plant only one end, etc.

In his case, he was planting a lot, so that method worked for lots of plantings.

As for how the slips grow from the potatoe, if you want to do more experimentation, keep track of which slips are from which potatoes. When you get the produce yield, see if it has a better yield also. If it does, keep these as the seed potatoes for next year.

    Bookmark     May 1, 2015 at 5:12AM
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Shule(about 4a)

Really, though, the reason I want to know is because I want to have some in a story--not because I'm particularly planning to grow them. If they're not illegal in my state I might grow them in a large container or a field of morning glory if I ever have one. They are said to grow well in large containers.

    Bookmark     April 30, 2015 at 2:29PM
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floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK

I know the plant well and have seen it many times. But I have never heard of anyone eating it so I can't help you with that aspect. The fruits start green and ripen to orange and are encased in an orange lantern shaped case. The case later becomes beige and lacy. They are often used when still orange in dried arrangements.

1 Like    Bookmark     May 1, 2015 at 1:29AM Thanked by Shule
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Cynthia R.(7B (NYC,NY))

Completely understand Dave. Thank you! Grubby and Dave.

    Bookmark     April 29, 2015 at 8:08AM
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earthnut(WA/usda8/ahs2)

The first thing to start with, organic or not, is a soil test. The fertilizers you mention are fine, but they may or may not be appropriate for your particular garden. You can put on all the N you want to grow leaves, but if the garden is deficient in K not many leaves will grow. All the nutrients need to be in the right proportion. Only a soil test can tell you where you are now, so you know what products you need.

    Bookmark     April 30, 2015 at 11:42PM
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celestial(Zone-Enabled)

This discussion reminded me of the old Radiolab podcast "Parasites" --

http://www.radiolab.org/story/91689-parasites/

The story about toxo is at the very end of the podcast. Although the hookworm story at the beginning is pretty darn entertaining.

Radiolab did followup episodes on both hookworm and toxo later on. Here's the other toxo episode --

http://www.radiolab.org/story/91692-the-scratch/

    Bookmark     April 29, 2015 at 8:50AM
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earthnut(WA/usda8/ahs2)

When cats were a problem, I just stuck a lot of sticks in the ground. The cats didn't like picking their way between the sticks, the sticks could decompose if not needed, and I could easily find more. Another person I know used a bunch of metallic pinwheels. Made his garden very colorful!

I found any kind of cover was more annoying to work around than some sticks, and no spray I tried worked.

    Bookmark     April 30, 2015 at 11:36PM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

I'm counting 7 plants? How many in your family? For the 2 of us one plant of each zuk and crookneck are more than enough for us and the neighbors! Just a thought! Nancy

    Bookmark     April 30, 2015 at 6:52PM
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Belden Rowley
Yeah I started a bunch of seeds. Mainly because I knew I was new at this and it gave me plenty of room for screw ups. I started with a dozen of everything and have already thinned them out. Some were real stunted and I was worried about damping off so I chucked them early on. I also have some friends and neighbors that are interested in plants If I don't use them.

Last year I did one of each and had problems with powdery mildew and what I think was poor pollination (we only picked about 4 squash and zucchini ) . So I hope to have 2 of each this year. I put in soaker hoses instead of overhead watering to help prevent powdery mildew and hopefully more flowers will help with better pollinating.

I'm only growing 5 or 6 types of veggies this year so I have the space. Next year I hope to try some new things once I get the hang of all this.
    Bookmark     April 30, 2015 at 7:24PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Seeds for them are available from several sources and then you can grow your own plants. Easy to grow just like the other members of the cucurbit family but they do need a long growing season. There are some cuttings for them listed over on discussions on the Asian Vegetables forum here and Google pulls up several different sources for plants.

Dave

    Bookmark     April 30, 2015 at 1:37PM
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barrie2m_(6a, central PA)

I planted basil yesterday but under cover of high tunnel. Balloonflower is correct in temp for basil yet in my high tunnel temp dipped to 40*F at 5:00 this morning before I started a propane heater and it looks OK.

    Bookmark     April 30, 2015 at 9:52AM
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Molex 7a NYC

Harden the plants off by reducing water and fertilizer as well as exposing them to outside conditions.

    Bookmark     April 30, 2015 at 11:33AM
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barrie2m_(6a, central PA)

It could be that your growing area is very dry and regular watering is needed. If your experience is that this is the case I would suggest transplanting everything now to larger pots. It may not seem the thing to do but I always can skip watering for a week after potting-up. Rootbound plants may actually need watered more than daily and those should not be allowed to remain in that situation for long anyway.

Your alternative solutions don't seem feasible. Maybe I don't understand your setup but why do you have those particular plants(other than tomatoes) Started nnow?

    Bookmark     April 30, 2015 at 10:09AM
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sleevendog (5a NY)

More info needed. I often leave my garden for a week or three, but do check the local forecast and might call and ask someone to check on things. They get the added benefit of harvesting for themselves as well.

A week is fine as long as it gets a good soak with proper mulch to keep that moisture in. We all have different set-ups for holidays depending on climate and what time into the growing season extra care is needed.

(i do have a drip system, but it can clog with newts after a heavy rain)...so i have a neighbor check...

    Bookmark     April 30, 2015 at 10:42AM
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vm3y

I also have a 12 inch deep bed, and grass did come up through all that soil, so I would definitely use cardboard. I don't know what type of grass I have, but I live in northern VA.

1 Like    Bookmark     April 29, 2015 at 2:27PM
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charlieboring

Actually, the cardboard works great. It deters grass and weed growth from below and provides a welcome attraction to earthworms that improve your soil. This raised bed has a layer of cardboard under it and it supports artichokes and has supported tomatoes.

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Tallest Sweet Corn ?What's the tallest sweet corn?
Posted by celestial(Zone-Enabled) April 27, 2015
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celestial(Zone-Enabled)

nice! did you get your golden bantam 12-row from baker creek?

    Bookmark     April 29, 2015 at 11:03AM
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Reaver Bloom

Yep! ^_^

    Bookmark     April 29, 2015 at 10:28PM
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lasteenblik

thank you for all of the help. I can't remember the types of zucchini of the top of my head. When I get home I will let you know.

They are two different varieties. I'm glad that the sliver leaves aren't concerning, and that everyone thinks they look good.

As Peter said my main concern is the wilting and brown spots.

    Bookmark     April 29, 2015 at 8:47AM
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lasteenblik

OK the two varieties are costata romanesco, I believe the ones with the silvery leaves is a raven.

    Bookmark     April 29, 2015 at 9:18PM
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celestial(Zone-Enabled)

I remove suckers in the greenhouse (to train the plants up a trellis) and leave 'em be in the garden where I don't have capacity issues.

    Bookmark     April 29, 2015 at 10:49AM Thanked by Philothea Francis
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Philothea Francis

Galinas and Celestial,

Thanks so much! Both your responses were also helpful :)

    Bookmark     April 29, 2015 at 8:26PM
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daninthedirt(Cent TX; HZ10, Sunset z30, USDA z8a)

You can look it up. A third of the worlds population is estimated to carry a toxoplasmosis infection. You've probable gotten it. In immunocompetent people it just causes flu-like symptoms. It is not dangerous, though pregnant women who have not been previously exposed to it (such exposure confers some natural immunity) are exposed to some fetal risk. Such immunity is normally tested for in pre-natal exams, I believe. Those who are immunocompromised can also be at risk for serious symptoms.

Now, that being said, warm blooded animals can carry the parasite, so if you're worried about cat poop, you'd better be worried about at least squirrel poop as well. Your cat is unlikely to have it if it is primarily an indoor cat, such that it can't eat the parasite-ridden meat outside.

Wash and or cook your food (especially that food whose fruit grows in the soil) and wash your hands after yo've been handling soil. It's that simple.

    Bookmark     April 29, 2015 at 5:26PM
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galinas(5B)

Soil is soil. Birds that could be caring deadly viruses poop there. Wild animals, who's health is not better then your cat's poop there. You still use the soil and eat your veggies. Wash them well. Remove the poop you see. And stop worrying)

    Bookmark     April 29, 2015 at 5:50PM
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