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vgkg(Z-7)

You are correct, that's 1 ton and 32lbs of pumpkin. I'd like to see them put that one in a sling and chunk it lol.

    Bookmark     November 24, 2013 at 10:39AM
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elpasotwigs(8)

Growing indoors will be extremely difficult unless you can get 6-8 hours of sunlight and good ventilation. There are more chances of diseases when these are grown indoors. But if you have space for even 1-2 containers outside you can certainly grow them easily. It is best to grow them in summer but you can start seeds indoors about 8 weeks ahead of time or buy transplants from nursery.

Here is a link that might be useful: El Paso Twigs

    Bookmark     November 23, 2013 at 8:11PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

If you have grown them successfully outside, in the garden or IN container, then may consider growing them inside. Then you have to educated yourself about GROWING UNDER LIGHT.

But what you want to do is to germinating and growing seedling to be planted out in the spring, THEN that is another issue.

    Bookmark     November 24, 2013 at 8:16AM
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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

Looks like an over-mature leaf.
What does the rest of the plant look like?

    Bookmark     November 23, 2013 at 12:35AM
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geosankie(5a NEPA)

Possibly caused by Downy mildew
Pathogen: Bremia lactucae

    Bookmark     November 23, 2013 at 2:13PM
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ashfarm(8a)

Ok thank you two for the help I'm gonna have fun with my first tiller yay gotta try not to get carried away and do the whole yard

    Bookmark     November 23, 2013 at 11:08AM
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sunnibel7 Md 7(7)

I'm surspised at giving the tomato plants only 2' apart. Seems a little close, depending on the type of tomato plants. The 3-4 feet between rows isn't just mainly for us humans to walk in, the plant roots go out into those spots too!

Actually, saying 3-4' between rows can be a little misleading (depending on how you interpret that) because it doesn't address how wide the rows themselves are. A tomato plant has a much larger footprint than a bean plant, so if you plant a row of bean seeds, then measure 3' over from your furrow and plant another row of beans, fine, plenty of room. But if you plant a row of tomato transplants, especially monsters like some of the cherry tomatoes, measure 3' over then do a row of okra, you won't have room to move come midsummer, because those can both average 3' in diameter.

I have lots of space and I like to be comfortable in the garden, so I have a 3' spacing for everything: 3' wide row for planting, 3' wide path for walking, 3' wide row for planting, etc. For smaller things I end up treating it like a small bed, and plant rows within rows, like with lettuce, bush beans, garlic. I could probably do with smaller pathways, but not smaller rows.

    Bookmark     November 23, 2013 at 11:46AM
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rhizo_1 (North AL) zone 7

Thanks

    Bookmark     November 23, 2013 at 11:02AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Never heard of him so had to look him up. South Texas gardening is the apparent focus so while the folks on the Texas Gardening forum here might be interested he doesn't have much applicable info for the rest of us.

I sure didn't like the looks of the tomato transplant he is holding in the photo - leggy and well past ideal transplanting age and size.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Texas Gardening forum

    Bookmark     November 23, 2013 at 11:29AM
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chloe456

Ok thanks i did think so and I just read about it too. Hopefully next year I can try them although they will have to be covered here as we have a huge amount of white cabbage moths :( .

    Bookmark     November 23, 2013 at 2:36AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Perth, Western Australia ?
You are heading to summer , Right ? In that case, B.sprouts are prone to bolt. Cabbages are called COOL CROPS. They are very much like onions. In some places where they have very cool summers,brassica are planted in the spring and harvested in the fall.
In US(Zone, 7, 8), I had planted them one fall. They over wintered and the following spring they resumed growing.
But I don't know how to grow them successfully in subtropics.

    Bookmark     November 23, 2013 at 6:00AM
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ltilton

I tried over and over this year to grow fall lettuce, every time the heat burned it up. Finally, very late, some of it sprouted and started to grow. I watched with interest to see if it would reach harvestable size before the freeze got it.

Sure enough, I come out one day, and it's all been nipped down to the nub by the rachets.

Every year.

    Bookmark     November 22, 2013 at 7:17PM
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squirrellypete(z7b AL)

Rabbits decimated my spring Broccoli crop (my first attempt). I planted some fall Broccoli and so far so good but I know that can't last. I finally bit the bullet and bought a floating row cover for pest control as well as frost protection. Now that it came in today I just KNOW those buggers are gonna' clean me out tonight before I can get it attached to hoops and anchored down tomorrow. If they get my fall broccoli we may be having rabbit stew alot this winter lol. Grrrrr.

My nieces live in the city and love rabbits (I do too in actuality, I prefer to use non-lethal barriers and shoot them only as a last resort), they have 7 of them as pets, all adorable. They would be absolutely HORRIFIED to learn that folks out here shoot them as pests and that they can be bred for rabbit meat. Shooting one has certainly crossed my mind a time or two. My sister doesn't even want me to mention in front of her kids that I get my garden manure from a rabbit farm. Apparently that's too traumatic.......Sheesh.

    Bookmark     November 23, 2013 at 12:15AM
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planatus(6)

That looks like fusarium mold, which has been a problem for many people in the east this year, probably because of all the rain. There have been several threads about it in the Allium forum.

I would not plant those cloves. Clean bulbs from a coop or health food store would be better, regardless of type.

I had a lot of suspicious bulbs in my hardnecks, so I dried them before the disease progressed. The softnecks were not as badly affected and are still looking perfect in storage.

    Bookmark     November 22, 2013 at 7:52AM
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weedlady(Central OH 6)

Rats. I had a feeling that was going to be the answer.
But thanks.

    Bookmark     November 22, 2013 at 8:45AM
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Prachi(6b (NJ))

ahhh overwatering.. that would make sense... I'll stop.. I was watering it more often than I should have because it started to flower. I'll stop. Thanks for the suggestion. I really need to buy some fish emulsion but I have some miracle gro that my dad gave me (I was too polite at the time to say I won't use it, my dad and I garden very differently).

I was debating on what other forum to try... indoor plant or container .. I'll repost on container.
Thanks Dave!

    Bookmark     November 21, 2013 at 5:04PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

If the purpose of over wintering is to keep them alive, I would not fertilize them too much, I would not water them too much.
I will give them 1/3 strength fertilizers, mybe once a month.
I will also snip any bud and flower. They need light more than anything else. Keep them in cooler spot. UNLESS you want to have an indoor winter garden.

    Bookmark     November 21, 2013 at 5:24PM
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charlieboring

Once again the reputation and good name of slugs around the world has been saved by photographic evidence. Rabbits are famous for damaging our greens and blaming it on defensless slugs. Unlike snails we have not protective shell and are thin skinned. But I still recommend beer be left out for the slugs. If the rabbit does take a drink of it, he/she might forget about the greens. Don't believe what you have heard, that slugs are drunks. We are working on a 12 step program for slugs with no feet. It is tough!

    Bookmark     November 21, 2013 at 8:16AM
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daisies4ever(9)

The last thing I need around here, Charlie, is a bunch of noisy, drunken, carousing slugs in my yard! It's tough enough getting a decent night's sleep without listening to Slug Tavern racket. The neon lights alone would drive me batty. 12-step programs don't work around these parts. No, no beer for the slugs, I can't risk it. They get served Sluggo. Shuts them up real good....

    Bookmark     November 21, 2013 at 12:15PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

You really need to include your location info in the box provided. The "none" doesn't help us in any way. So thanks Rodney for the info and the link to previous discussion.

I agree with Jean's diagnosis. But regardless, based on the photo it is a minor issue and nothing to be concerned about. Far more important an issue is if the plant will ever produce anything given all the transplantings it has had.

Sometimes things in the garden just don't work out.

Dave

    Bookmark     November 19, 2013 at 9:34AM
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Maxim1122

Hey! I'm so sorry for not mentioning the location...
But it seems like my Squash has some more baby squashes on top of the vine, so I think I will leave it like that for now and hope for the best :P

    Bookmark     November 21, 2013 at 9:23AM
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a13art

Well I plan on using 20ft PVC with the width being 8ft I should get a decent height out of it. How cold of temps do you start planting with your hoop houses?

    Bookmark     November 18, 2013 at 7:59PM
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sleevendog (5a NY)

Might be wise and cost effective to just do two low row covers on either side of your path.
I used a roll of 1inch diameter black plastic water line pipe. Cut to the length you want and easily removed when not needed. I have the fabric remay, rolls of clear plastic, and a heavy gage deer-x. Might give you more options throughout the season. This simple system has been giving me much needed protection for years. When i need it, wherever i need it. My salad beds have this cover with the deer-x all season now, due to a rabbit explosion. I can easily add frost protection over that. Or two lengths in an x pattern with remay over an early planted squash mound.
Short article here...

Here is a link that might be useful: row covers explained

    Bookmark     November 21, 2013 at 8:22AM
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ceth_k(11)

Snails and slugs only come out at certain times of the day. You could go search for them at night with a torchlight

    Bookmark     November 21, 2013 at 1:12AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Rabbits: They love beans. They also ate some of my onions tops.
I don't think slug/snails will bother with onions. And, the eating pattern should tell you something. ARE THE LEAVES PATIALLY EATEN ? Then suspect slugs/snails and earwig.
The latter group start mostly with the lower leaves.

    Bookmark     November 21, 2013 at 3:12AM
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pnbrown

Parsnip has such a strong distinctive flavor and aroma I can hardly imagine a carrot cultivar that truly "tastes like parsnip".

    Bookmark     November 20, 2013 at 7:41AM
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chloe456

It's not as strong as parsnip but when you taste it carrot definitely doesn't come to mind ,it is wierd I know .
It doesn't smell like parsnip but definitely taste like it . It's got to the point where we actually roast them now and eat the like we would parsnip . :)

    Bookmark     November 20, 2013 at 9:42AM
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ceth_k(11)

OMG LOL! This thread is so funny!

    Bookmark     November 15, 2013 at 1:04AM
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hobbiest

Threw a free beer party for the locals.

They all wound up in the drunk tank.

:)

    Bookmark     November 19, 2013 at 10:32PM
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