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pnbrown

Ash leaches quickly, so best applied in spring just before planting.

    Bookmark     November 4, 2013 at 7:57AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

If the maters have reached their mature size, and they are unblemished(on the vine or in handling) it is possible to ripen them. Newspaper, shredded paper , ...help prevent rotting.
But the best use that I have found for green tomatoes is pickling and making green salsa, in place of tomatilllo.

    Bookmark     October 13, 2013 at 6:05AM
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blueswimmer68

I always end up with tons of green cherry tomatoes. I tried pickling them but they weren't that good. This year, I found this green tomato sweet bread recipe online: http://www.food.com/recipe/green-tomato-bread-53325

I tried it last weekend and it was really good. I tweaked the recipe and used half whole wheat flour and half all purpose flour. I also used coconut oil rather than vegetable oil. Finally, I added a half teaspoon of ginger and another of mace to the cinnamon. I also used half brown sugar rather than all white.

The result was a moist and spicy bread, darker than the one in the photo, with a nice crust. I chopped the green cherry tomatoes in the Cuisinart and they were unnoticeable in the bread, although they smelled horribly bitter and nasty when I chopped them.

I'm not sure if the tomatoes actually help the texture/moistness of the bread but it was quite delicious; I'm going to make more this weekend with my remaining green cherry tomatoes.

    Bookmark     November 1, 2013 at 5:39PM
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ceth_k(11)

Thanks

    Bookmark     November 1, 2013 at 11:25AM
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glib(5.5)

PS. Black rot is a tropical disease. It originated in West Africa. It loses fights with the local temperate microfauna (hence the suggestion of more OM), but it can survive in bits of brassica (stems for example) that are in the garden and have not composted yet. Just eat all you can, then clean it well in February or whenever you are ready, then add something fast composting, like good grass clippings and shredded leaves well mixed together. I prefer shredded leaves and shredded kitchen scraps, or semi-fresh manure, but I see you are far neater than I am.

    Bookmark     October 31, 2013 at 9:52PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

As I understand, the BR is just a plant disease. You can consume the vegetable. Don' throw them away. Just trim off the affected leaves.

    Bookmark     November 1, 2013 at 10:09AM
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Mark(Oregon, Zone 8)

They are definitely easier to clean than if I had hilled them.

Just to be clear, I look back at the picture and though the whites are high on the leek, the flash makes it seem more than it is. I'll try to get some better pictures soon.
-Mark

    Bookmark     October 31, 2013 at 1:00PM
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laceyvail(6A, WV)

I grow Bleu de Solaise leeks, a late, enormous leek. I start them in mid Feb in a deep pot, set the pot outside as long as the temp is above freezing (bringing them in at night) and set them in the garden some time in April when I'm sure night time temps won't get too cold. (If you have too many very cold nights, the leeks think they've been through a mediterranean winter and they bolt).

When I set them out, I set them deep, but no deeper than the lowest leaf. As they grow I pack hay around them--hay keeps them clean. Now, as I harvest, they have very long and very thick white portions that have no dirt in them at all.

Sorry, no pictures. I'm a good gardener, but I'm technologically challenged.

    Bookmark     November 1, 2013 at 6:36AM
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glib(5.5)

No, no, it will like fertility. Congratulations, I always failed in sand. But I am in clay now, and this is one of my favorite vegetables. Very health giving too, for me at least.

    Bookmark     October 31, 2013 at 10:24AM
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sunnibel7 Md 7(7)

Hey Glib, I think you were the one who let me know they needed a lot of water to be right. Thanks!I like them a lot and so does my husband so we're both very glad to be able to enjoy some of those bountiful leaves. I believe, as members of the thistle family they are helpful to the liver. Seems to me they have a bit of an effect on the old blood sugar as well.

    Bookmark     October 31, 2013 at 5:10PM
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ltilton

Pinching off with fingernails also works.

You don't have to thin all at once to the mature spacing. Baby onion sprouts and spinach are not only edible but a delicacy in salads, so you can thin gradually until your plants become full sized.

    Bookmark     October 30, 2013 at 10:40AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

I would look at it this way:
What is the diameter of an onion ? 3 inches " then i will grasually thin them so they are about 3" apat.

What is rh e diameter of a carrot? ONE inch : Then thin them one inch apart.

I will let the spinach grow in clumps. Thou you can tin and eat them as thin them. Same goes for things like parsley, coriander, chive. Let them clumpup. That is ok.

SNIPE them with your finger nails. Or just pull after watering.

    Bookmark     October 31, 2013 at 12:09AM
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glib(5.5)

The compounds that cause it are unknown. But why lectins? Wheat has more, but there are many fewer wheat allergy cases, though of course many more people are gluten intolerant.

    Bookmark     October 30, 2013 at 10:38PM
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beeman_gardener(5)

'Stomping'......using your size 11s to firm the ground where you will plant the brassicas.
Seems they don't like a loose root area and will not grow firm heads or sprouts, prevents plants from falling over.
I do know, since I remembered this my brassicas have improved tremendously.
Give it a try, nothing to lose.

    Bookmark     October 11, 2013 at 9:23PM
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cugal(5b-6a NE Ks)

Reviving this thread to do a follow up post........

Still no heads on my cauliflower (Snowball), but some of my broccoli (Pacman) is maturing........ Last fall & this spring's plantings produced main broccoli heads the size of golf balls & the cauliflower produced zip! Can't imagine what could be different.... Oh well, I'll take whatever mother nature gives!

Here's a head from this fall's Pacman.........

    Bookmark     October 30, 2013 at 9:44PM
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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

Well, it appears I'm going to have a cold winter. I saw two woolly bears today and both of them were about two-thirds black.

Rodney

    Bookmark     October 30, 2013 at 1:40PM
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Deeby

Thanks, Elisa. Caterpillars on payroll???

    Bookmark     October 30, 2013 at 8:45PM
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n2xjk

If you ate any of this corn, was it still sweet? If it was mostly starchy, perhaps what happened is this field of corn was too close to an incompatible type like popcorn or flint that pollinated at the same time. The sweetness genes are recessive and pollination with any unsweet type wipes out the sweet flavor. If it crossed with something like popcorn, might explain the strange kernels.

    Bookmark     October 29, 2013 at 8:30PM
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lana_lang

I did taste it, and it was sweet, but the kernels were tough. It's so weird.... even the spaces underneath the kernels were shaped funny. Crazy stuff can happen in nature, I guess!

    Bookmark     October 30, 2013 at 1:01AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Yes you can and many do according to the past discussions over on the Organic Gardening forum. The point often made is that the better the quality of the compost, the more diverse its ingredients, the higher the quality of the tea.

Dave

    Bookmark     October 29, 2013 at 2:06PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Make tea for what kind of plants? I would say it is ok for small seedlings.

If you read the ANALYSIS on the bag (if there is one), you will see that bagged composts are very pour on NPK. They are just good soil amenders. So, soaking them in water (further diluting) and giving it to plants is not going to accomplish much. If I wanted to do such a thing, I would use MANUREs that there is some juice to it.
JMO.

    Bookmark     October 29, 2013 at 9:19PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

In part it is normal for the older bottom leaves to die and fall off. But is usually with much older plants than these appear to be.

Over-watering/overly wet soil is the most common cause of yellowing such as in your picture.

Excess N may cause a similar condition when very high N fertilizers are used but your fertilizer is not high N. Plus with excess N the younger leaves would be very dark green - yours are not - and here would be green veins in the yellow leaves - yours are not.

Too little N would show up most in the new leaves as yellowing.

So consider it a possible over-water issue. Excess rain? How often are you watering?

Dave

    Bookmark     October 29, 2013 at 4:40PM
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ka0ttic(CFL 9b)

They were staying kind of wet with the mulch on there and that's another reason I took the mulch off. I was worried about them staying too wet and not getting enough oxygen.

When the mulch was still there, I was watering maybe 2x a week. I took the mulch off about 2 weeks ago and the combination of that and us finally getting cooler/drier air here in central FL, I've been watering probably every other day when needed (if i stuck my finger in and felt dry).

Very possible they were staying too wet with the mulch but I've been careful not to overwater them since taking the mulch off.

    Bookmark     October 29, 2013 at 5:02PM
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wally_1936(8b)

Growing in cool weather helps with the sweet taste over bitter.

    Bookmark     October 12, 2013 at 11:39PM
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ccabal(7)

Could it be turnip greens? In my picture I have some mustard (right) growing next to the turnips. The mustard leaves are much smoother. But it could be the specific type of cultivar. Turnip greens are darker green, and rougher leaves.

    Bookmark     October 29, 2013 at 12:48PM
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