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mckenziek(9CA)

I have an orchard. I put in posts and wire to suspend the main line around 2 feet off the ground. There is some buried main line as well, but I don't like having too many buried lines because if they should leak it might take quite some time before you notice, and quite a long time to find the leak location. Burying one relatively short line shouldn't' be a problem, though.

You could use garden hose as your main line and move it when you mow.

You can connect your system to use the rain barrel at all times. Use your garden hose to manually fill up the rain barrel when needed. Or you could even use a float valve to automatically top off the rain barrel from the hose. Then everything would be zero pressure.

I think a hose timer will work OK with zero pressure. So you could have branch A be main line, back-flow preventer, pressure reducer, hose bib A. Branch B would be water barrel, hose bib B. Connect the hose timer to hose bib A when you are home, and hose bib B when you are out. Don't forget to turn on the hose bib before you go on vacation!

If you can get your rain barrel 10 feet above your garden, everything will work much better. If you only have one or two feet of pressure, even drip irrigation might not work very well.

I believe most drip irrigation is designed to work at 5 psi (hopefully someone will correct me if I am wrong). That is like 11 feet of water pressure, I believe.

--McKenzie

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loribee2(CA 9)

Ahh, then yes. Outside, as Dave said.

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Watermelonkyle

Makes sense now that I think about it. Thanks for the input everyone.

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FrancoiseFromAix

Thanks a lot, Dave, I have exactly the same problem.

And keep up the good job of posting again and again not to overwater tomatoes, half of mine are currently dying because I did not listen to you :-(

I watered them, a lot, with the hose, four days in a row after transplanting, and despite dry wind and hot sun, they are turning yellow :-(

Oh my fifty babies grown from tomato fest 's seeds I'm so sorry I didn't do like you said !

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annew21(7b NC)

I had the same problem last year, but it was with winter squash. I pollinated them with zucchini pollen, and it worked. Just like Dave said. Your plants will get bigger eventually, and you will have more flowers, so you shouldn't have to do this for too long.

-Anne

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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

Spider mites make very fine stippling, more fine than in the picture.
I'd suspect edema. what does the leaf underside look like?

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acorn922

Thanks for the replies!
I think it's edema.

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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

Might try the California forum, turaloora. But, I'm sure it's possible, especially if all you want is green bells. Colored bells take forever to ripen even where I'm at. You'll probably have to manipulate the environment. Like black containers or if in ground, black plastic mulch.

Kevin

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loribee2(CA 9)

Well, I'm 40 miles north of San Francisco but still along the fog belt. I have good luck with peppers, with some caveats. I grow my own from seed (Johnny's Seeds Ace and Lipstick). I've had zero luck with starts I've bought from Lowes or Home Depot. I have good luck with my own starts. I also don't expect to get the giant bells you buy in the store. Mine end up smaller. And like Kevin said, I don't wait for them to turn red, though some will.

I've had amazing luck with chile peppers, like Anaheim chiles. My problem is, I don't eat the hot ones as much as I do the bells. Thus, I try varieties like Lipstick, smaller ones but still sweet.

I also plant them in the hottest spot in my garden, making sure they get as little shade as possible. Important when the sun doesn't clear the fog until noon, heh.

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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

It appears to me that your plants needed more nitrogen. But probably it is too late at this stage.

According to your sample harvest, your potatoes are almost there. They are very much like their cousin, tomatoes. It take roughly from 90 days to 120 days from seeding to harvest, depending on the variety.

I also do think that those leave have some kind of fungal disease . I would just clip all the affected ones. On the other hand, since they have reached their maturity, there should not be a reason to be alarmed. I would just let them be there as long as possible. When the stems get woody and brownish then it will be the sign that there is no benefit getting to the roots from the foliage.

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Nascent_Bud(9b)

You all are fantastic! Thanks for the informative answers. And yes, Ohiofem, I have never tasted potatoes that good before! I was very pleased with the flavor and texture.

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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

Hot, dry, & windy. Sounds as if you might be in SoCal.

As for the wind, rig a temporary windbreak or set the pot in a sheltered place, even if in the garage for several days.

If root rot, the roots (especially the tips) will be dark and unhealthy looking.

Jean,
who gardened for 30-some years in LB, CA

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slowjane CA/ Sunset 21

yes in socal indeed. hellish weather the last few days...feels like october!

i was afraid it had a disease but fingers crossed it is just the conditions which i can change.

i will keep it more consistently moist - and protect it from the wind. thanks jean!

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

It is a low dose fertilizer, which is fine but different plants need different amounts of feeding and at different times. So it isn't a set schedule for the whole garden. Broccoli and cucumbers need more N than tomatoes and peppers but tomatoes need a bit more than peppers do.

It also depends on how much you amended your garden soil before planting. If you added lots of good compost nutrients to the soil before planting then only the broccoli and cukes may need some after the first couple of weeks or so. Tomatoes and peppers after the first fruit set and then approx. every 6 weeks or so. But those are just very general guidelines.

You learn with time and experience to tell when the plant needs feeding rather than going by a day of the week.

Dave

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SEEDMEN

Was just wondering how often to fertilize our garden , but I think digdirt answered my question , hope all has a great day and HAPPY PLANTING FROM , SEEDMEN

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

I'd go with 12" minimum as the plants get at least that wide. Otherwise they will be laying/falling over out of your box. Plus that would make the box useful for other crops as well. Can't do much at all with only 4 inches width.

Dave

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oregon_veg(8)

Dave,
Very good points thanks.

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Slugs, birds (it is nest building time). I have 2 wrens that are determined to line their nest with wife's petunias.

Dave

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2ajsmama

If the lilies look like they've been chomped from the top (esp. the flower buds just chopped off and disappeared) I'd suspect deer. I'm not sure about calla, but they love Asiatic lilies.

Strawbery leaves? Again, if they're totally gone not just holey, it might be deer. Though if you've got a lot of grass around I don't know. But deer did eat my strawberry leaves late last fall before I had mulched. I'd assume that they'd have plenty else to eat in the spring though since they haven't touched mine since I took the winter pine bough covering off.

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Mindyw3(5)

We've had the same Maple!! Broccoli is so unpredictable. Ive had plants that I babied sit all season and never produce a head at all.....and I've had plants survive through Nebraska winters (fall planted) produce beautiful heads in early spring! I stopped planting cauliflower because of their unpredictability. But man home grown broccoli is so good!!! I may experiment this fall with overwintering again. That happened accidentally but was a nice surprise.

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nugrdnnut(6a n-c WA)

My broccoli report:

Winter sowed 2 varieties... packman and early girl hybrid. Germination was good and I planted out about the 15th of April. The plants have grown well... big leaves, but haven't grown to tall. I have heads forming, with the largest one being about the size of a silver dollar and they don't look like they are getting to the flowering stage (still tight heads). Like everyone else's, we've had wildly fluctuating weather temps (lows to 25 some nites in april and almost 90 the other day).

A little off topic, winter sown cabbage and cauliflower are doing well and hope to harvest cabbage sometime in the next 30 days.

Happy gardening!
Tom

ps, will try to get a picture in the next day or 2.

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Mindyw3(5)

Floral: it's Red Cross from Johnny's. I grew it last year too. Didn't have any problems last year.

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floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK

Oh dear - you're right. Picture two certainly shows something going very wrong.

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colleenoz

I find myself wondering what Natures_Nature has to say to smokers s/he encounters.

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lucillle

I agree with those who say to wait until garden advice is solicited, it will be both really heard and appreciated then.

I think it is disrespectful to personally confront people about their grocery choices, that is like telling them that they are children and cannot make their own decisions.
If one has strong feelings about nutrition, write articles, contribute posts here, etc.

Do not approach people in person in public about their grocery choices because they 'might not know'. For one thing, there are scientific disagreements and just because one reads a few articles, does not make one the purveyor of the absolute truth.

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horse727

Really no mealybugs?

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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

Mealybugs would be very unusual on tomatoes.

do you have any images of the fuzzy stuff?

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mfran12345 (Zone 6b, northeast PA)

Do you think it's too late for bean seeds then, should I look for plants and get them in the ground as soon as possible? My plan is to wait a week or two to plant tomatoe and pepper plants and get some beet and cucumber seeds in the ground this weekend. Do I need to stager plantings, mostly tomatoes and peppers I mean, so all plants don't ripen and provide at the same time. Thanks so much everyone, you been so helpful so far. I really appreciate it.

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Do you think it's too late for bean seeds then,

Not at all. Beans prefer warmer soil or they just rot. Even down here we are are just now planting beans. jimmy56 may be in a very different garden zone than you are.

You don't need to stagger plant tomatoes or peppers as even determinate tomato types will produce for the season. Indeterminate types will produce until killed by frost or disease.

Please keep in mind that as mentioned above you need to research how to grow each of these vegetables individually and there are lots of "how to grow ______ in a home garden" info sites. Each vegetable has different needs.

And expect some set backs too and roll with them. It is impossible to learn everything you need to know in 2 weeks or even 2 years.

Dave

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