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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

That is very interesting and clever.
thanks for sharing.

    Bookmark     September 28, 2013 at 3:34PM
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Ohiofem(6a Ohio)

There are many online sources. I've bought fingerling potatoes from Potato Garden and Jung Seeds. They are fairly expensive because of the shipping, but you can be confident they are disease free. I've also planted organic fingerlings I got from the grocery store. In spite of the advice not to do that, I had my best harvest with the grocery store potatoes. I got close to 20 pounds of potatoes for each pound of Russian banana potatoes I planted.

    Bookmark     September 28, 2013 at 10:47AM
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sweetquietplace(6 WNC Mtn.)

There's a farmers market out by I-95 on the north side of Melborne I believe. I got my French fingerlings from Fresh Market...did great. If your hands are full of arthritis, fingerlings are difficult to hold on to while scrubbing and preparing to cook. French fingerlings are a little bit thicker around and easier to grasp. Check with your extentsion agent for best time to plant. In the meantime you can start working the plot where you're going to put them. Potatoes like an acid soil so you need to consider that.

    Bookmark     September 28, 2013 at 12:12PM
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planatus(6)

Historically, strains of P. coccineus with white seeds were selected by the Dutch. While the species can outcross with some pole beans, it is also possible that some level of genetic diversity remains in your strain. White seeds are associated with white flower color, too.

    Bookmark     September 28, 2013 at 10:02AM
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johnboy90

Thanks everyone for your comments, I have just been out in the garden to take down the bean row and collect the dried beans that are left on , The bean pods are all about 1 foot long and i have started to remove the beans from the pods, and to my amazement i now find i have pure black seeds in some pods as well as the white ones in other pods.

    Bookmark     September 28, 2013 at 10:35AM
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Ohiofem(6a Ohio)

Maybe you should do a little research into soil before you start planting vegetables in containers. The potting mix is the most important ingredient in getting healthy vegetables. Whether you're talking about soil or compost, spent means most of the nutrients are used up and the structure has broken down.

From the Urban Dictionary:

Spent as an adjective:
1. Used up; consumed
2. Having come to an end; passed
3. Depleted of energy, force, or strength; exhausted

And no, compost that is not finished composting is not a good media to use in a pot. You might get away with it mixed into garden soil, but you also might end up burning roots (especially if it includes manure) and attracting vermin.

    Bookmark     September 27, 2013 at 1:04PM
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reddit

the spent soil is free so i might try using that to start some compost with some leaves

also i just realized this company only does delivery via bicycle, so the mix is made as light as possible without lime (ph is 5.2-5.5 according to seller)

    Bookmark     September 28, 2013 at 5:14AM
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cugal(5b-6a NE Ks)

Hmmmmm! The friend I made reference to got his plants from an entomoligst friend that has greenhouse grown these plants for the past three years. That said, Rodney may be on to something! I'm clueless about the science of plant reproduction, so I didn't want to attempt to propagate these seeds if they weren't likely to grow true.....

As farmerdill mentioned, there are a great number of facsimiles out there, but my friend has his heart set on growing this one, so I'll start some for him in the spring....

    Bookmark     September 27, 2013 at 3:58PM
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fusion_power

Go to wildgardenseed.com and check out Stocky Red Roaster. and Karma. They have excellent flavor and very good production and are already open pollinated so you can save seed.

    Bookmark     September 27, 2013 at 10:52PM
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sweetquietplace(6 WNC Mtn.)

Delicata cross?

    Bookmark     September 27, 2013 at 8:59PM
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glib(5.5)

Mongrel. I have eaten excellent mongrels, so give it a try.

    Bookmark     September 27, 2013 at 10:09PM
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flowergirl70ks

How old was the seed? Came off the rack this year. Same with lettuce. I don't recall the temp, but it was a good 3 weeks ago.

    Bookmark     September 27, 2013 at 7:12PM
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beeman_gardener(5)

I have had it with the seed companies that show in the big box stores.
Beets, totally different than on the packet. Broccoli that just shot straight up. Have you ever seen 4 feet of stalks and tiny heads. Pole beans, red flowers when they should be white, Cucumbers when I wanted melons, the list seems endless.
I now will only buy from the bigger guys, like Johnnys, even if it costs extra for international shipping.

    Bookmark     September 27, 2013 at 7:28PM
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nc_crn

Jalapenos are notoriously all over the place with their heat. It's kinda a characteristic of their profile.

It's not uncommon to have low/no heat jalapenos along with normal and hot-as-hell on the same plant harvested at the same time...as well as early season low-heat production.

Why this happens...no one can nail it down.

There's a lot we don't know about peppers. We don't even know how they signal themselves to ripen, for instance. It's known it's not ethylene influenced (or enough of an influence to be noted as an influence), but not much is known about what chemical/physiological signals are present when true pepper ripening is taking place. If this can be found out, and it can be influenced by external chemical inputs (such as ripening tomatoes with ethylene post-harvest), then ripe colored bell peppers could be a whole lot less expensive one day.

This post was edited by nc-crn on Tue, Sep 24, 13 at 18:36

    Bookmark     September 24, 2013 at 6:31PM
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donnabaskets(Zone 8a, Central MS)

For goodness sake. The more I learn, the more there is to learn....thanks, nc/cm!

    Bookmark     September 27, 2013 at 4:49PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Based on your picture, and as Flora pointed out , they are to crowded. At this pint I would keep 3 good ones and pull the rest. And then pour about 1" thick soil on the exposed roots and straighten them up a bit so they are not touching the ground.
Also get rid of the roted,dried ..leaves. They are magnet for disease. .

BTW: some criters are helping themselves there. Do you have slugs or snails ?

    Bookmark     September 27, 2013 at 2:54AM
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djodts(5)

Thank you both. I haven't seen anything on the plants themselves, but yes, I have found slugs around the yard. thanks fir pointing that out. I'll put down some diatomaceous earth or crushed egg shells down.ÃÂ Thanks again.

    Bookmark     September 27, 2013 at 8:57AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Anyone have any experience with adding Arctic Hummus?
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Isn't that what PEAT MOSS IS?

    Bookmark     September 26, 2013 at 3:06AM
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pnbrown

My feeling is that moving OM of any kind long distances makes little sense. I reserve that kind of expense for inorganic minerals with a lot punch, like azomite, langbeinite, greensand, etc.

    Bookmark     September 26, 2013 at 8:29AM
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uscjusto

I caught the caterpillar in the act. I think he would have eaten the entire leaf if I didn't stop him. Nasty little thing.

I'll be on the lookout for grasshoppers though.

    Bookmark     September 22, 2013 at 3:34AM
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dshawnw(9)

A similiar catapillar ate on my squash and eggplant leaves/blossoms for a month. I finally applied malathion spray and killed em all! I rather stay organic, but they got out of hand.

    Bookmark     September 26, 2013 at 12:17AM
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elisa_z5

pattypan, I've never heard of pinching off the flowers, and I never do. Seed potatoes might be a good idea to try once and see how they do for you. They can be expensive when mail ordered, but nice and cheap if you can find them locally at a feed type store. (I can get them at Southern States.)

    Bookmark     September 23, 2013 at 10:50AM
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dshawnw(9)

No problem with the temps for curing SP here in Fla. but i have been washing mine after harvest and read this damages the skin. Without refrigeration mine would be stored @ temps warm enough to promote sprouts. They lasted about 6 months last year, any suggestions how can Make them keep them longer?

    Bookmark     September 25, 2013 at 11:10PM
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sweetquietplace(6 WNC Mtn.)

Cut it open and see what it looks like. If there's a borer in there, just cut out out that part.

    Bookmark     September 25, 2013 at 3:32PM
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tishtoshnm Zone 6/NM

Sorry, I should have noted that borers are not a problem in my area.

    Bookmark     September 25, 2013 at 4:02PM
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Mark(Oregon, Zone 8)

My guess is aphid damage. You should see tell tale signs they were there as they leave behind grey/blue residue.
I think they'll be fine to eat.

-Mark

    Bookmark     September 24, 2013 at 4:54PM
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planatus(6)

I agree -- aphids are a chronic problem for me with B sprouts. Insecticidal soap doesn't get into the crevices where they hide, so I depend more on hoverflies and other natural predators. Good reason to keep flowers blooming well into fall.

    Bookmark     September 25, 2013 at 7:33AM
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planatus(6)

I start shallot seeds indoors in late January. The little plants are stiffer and slightly faster growing than bulb onion seedlings, but basically handled the same way.

If I have any shallots left in March, I plant them. Many people plant shallots in fall, but mine are still fully dormant then and tend to rot over the winter. Mine don't break dormancy until late winter, hence the spring planting.

    Bookmark     September 25, 2013 at 7:29AM
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