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pureguava

It's erratic spring weather out here (80s one day, 50 the next, high winds, sometimes frost- Colorado!) I definitely started the melons too early- they are going crazy! I wanted a jump on the season and got too eager. The aerogarden is great for seed starting but now I have near 60 plants in need of bigger pots because it got crowded. I put some in peat pots but have been reading that those aren't good (for moisture management) so will be heading back to the store to get plastic pots for the super-leggy tomatoes and peppers.

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howelbama(7 NJ)

well, good thing about leggy tomatoes is you can just bury them deep when you transplant.

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ceth_k(11)

OMG the kittens are so cute and cuddly !

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ltilton

Cats are very good on voles. Mine are inside/outside cats and living in doesn't blunt their predacious edge.

Getting old does, however, alas.

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terry_neoh(5b)

The change in the leaf stems give them a higher surface area to volume ratio, which would make them more efficient at expelling and evaporating water. It would do this either to rid itelf of harmful ammounts of water, or to cool the plant, or a combination of both.

However, leaves (foiliage) woud be naturally more efficient at these tasks than stems. So maybe something on the leaves like naturally occurring wax, or a build-up of sprays and dust, could be blocking the leaves from efficiently evaporating. Maybe hosing them down good with a light soap (quickly-you don't want to soak them if they are alteady too wet.) Good luck, and remember that new squash plants grow very quickly (from seed) and may be your easiest way out of this problem.
-Terry

This post was edited by terry_neoh on Thu, May 1, 14 at 6:12

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Flat, markedly elongated, and split stems are caused by a severe insufficiency of the needed light if grown indoors or sun if grown outdoors. You don't indicate where growing - in or out. Their color is also an indication of very poor light/sun exposure.

Ambient air temps can contribute to the problem but since you give no indication of your location or zone I can't comment on how that could have contributed in this case.

These seedlings are not salvageable.

Dave

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terry_neoh(5b)

Keep outer skins dried, and mulch and dirt pulled back from the top half of the bulb as it progresses. This is some extra work that the commercial growers probably do not do.

The drying skins at the top can accumulate rain, whick, if not quickly dried, can start to rot. This can not only ruin that cover layer to the onion but can tranfer some of the fungus to healthy, growing leaves.
-Terry

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wayne_5 zone 6a Central Indiana

I don't understand the keeping dirt off the upper bulb. I like to see a bit added to keep them from greening ....got along good my way.

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hudson___wy(3)

Rhubarb greens up fast - even in this cold unsettled early spring with night time temps in the mid teens!

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hudson___wy(3)

Rhubarb really is a very hardy - cold resistant plant !! It received a dose of winter last weekend but didn't complain much - looks happy as ever again today!

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Staking Tomatillos?Does anyone stake their plant?
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Posted by AiliDeSpain 6a - Utah (My Page) on
Wed, Apr 30, 14 at 20:52

You need more than one plant for them to be pollinated as they rely on cross pollination for fruit production.
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Not true, with due respect to your opinion.
Do they sap that on that on the tag, that you need 2 plants?

I have proven that theory WRONG not once, twice but 3 times.

If Your tomatillo does not set fruit, for some reason, it is not because you have just one of them. It can happen when you have 2 or more.

Just past season I had just ONE tomtillo plant. It continued flowering til September, BUT no fruits. Come late September it suddenly was loaded with husks. But It was too late and no time to grow and ripen.

ABOUT SUPPORT:
I think a medium size 3-ring cage is best. Because they get bushy and one stake is not enough.

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AiliDeSpain(6a - Utah)

The fact that they rely on cross pollination is a fact, having one plant produce fruit means that it is being pollinated by another tomatillo plant that isn't yours via insect pollination.
I start my own plants from seed so no I did not read this on a nursery tag. I thought staking would be adequate but I also have cages I can use, I actually wasn't planning on caging anything this year because they are not strong enough to support non Bush type plants and that's what I'm growing this year.

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melikeeatplants

Just sow the seeds and you'll find out if it's enough light...

Check this site out too, you can plug in different times of year to see the suns pattern....

suncalc.net

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catsgurleygirl

Thanks for your kind words and responses. I know we can try planting there, I was just trying to avoid having to move huge heavy beds along with the dirt, but we already made the beds so we are committed now :).

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

throw my white frost fabric over them for shade

That will only trap some of the heat. You need to rig it up on some sort of support over them for it to be effective at shading so there is air circulation between it and the plants.

And if you have enough double layer it to cut the sun even more.

Keep in mind that temps at ground level are an average of 5 degrees cooler than at the 5-6' level of weather station readings.

Dave

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melikeeatplants

Stuck some cardboard around them. Blocks most of the light... I'm sure they can live without it for 3 days

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Chelsea1122

There is one plant per cell, in a 4 cell pack. 1 of 3 is doing fine. There is another cell pack that is behind it that is thriving so it looks like there are more.

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Hmmm sure looks like more than 4 in there but yes if you can't plant it outside yet then you will have to transplant them into individual pots. At that size I'd use at least 1/2 gallon pots each.

Dave

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

What it says on the packet is Garden beans - Tenderpick - Bush, Early.

Yes they are green beans, variety Tenderpick, which is a Burpee hybrid of the old heirloom variety "Tenderpod". They are bush variety green beans rather than a pole variety, 'snap' bean just like the picture. Just Google the variety name for all kinds of info on Tenderpick.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Tenderpick beans

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farmerdill

Just for information. Tenderpick is an open pollinated variety under PVP. Seeds will come true, but are patented so only Burpee can sell them. You can save them for your own use.

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terry_neoh(5b)

"You're lucky you have that slope."

Funny, but I originally placed the garden there because the neighbor offered water for it. It creeps down the slope about a foot a year (from erosion), but I'll be long gone before it reaches the bottom.

The topsoil is good, but the hardpan keeps it soggy, even with the slope. It's a hydrodynamic wonder!

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ltilton

My garden is sited on the low ground, where that standing water is.

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veggievicki(7b)

We have piney woods all around us and there is no shortage of stuff growing in there. So hard to imagine it could be harmful on a path. Since it was kiln dried it would be "cured" to some extent. I would think by the end of summer if some ends up getting into your soil, it would be ok. I use shavings in my chickens, then gets composted and then to the garden. Also I mulch my flower beds with pine bark. I think it's the fresh stuff going directly on the bed that is the real issue. It sounds like you're concerned that it will leach something over onto your growing bed, and as I understand it the issue with fresh shavings is that it pulls nutrient from the soil. As to the earlier post about won't it blow away, the minute it gets wet, it will stay put, so wet it down with a spray hose to get it to stay where you want it.

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mother_necessity

We chipped-up fallen pine trees and got a mix of bark, wood and needles. Used in garden paths between beds the past two years. Beds are mounded, not boxed in with wood. The only issue is that some of the mixture gets in the beds, up the sides. Will be looking for evidence this year to see if there has been any effect (eg. lower pH), but use so much compost and manure that I think it will be a wash. Plants of all kinds (from strawberries to tomatoes) the past few years don't seem to have been affected at all. Free = good, path weeds = bad.

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noreen32(6)

bmoser and grandad...those sound like sophisticated systems you have in place. But I like the idea of tracking information in spread sheets. I will have to think about a format that would work well for beginners. Thanks!

digdirt...Yes, the remembering to make entries part is the challenge. :) Most of my friends are busy moms and they need something that is convenient and provides all the info they need in one place. I will have to think about the blog idea some more. You might be on to something there. Thanks!

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noreen32(6)

planatus...thanks for the link to garden calendar. That's a great idea!

gardenper...I also use evernote for works and personal stuff. Though, I always end up with so much information in there and something it takes a while to find what I need. I guess my biggest problem is figuring out how to organize all the information.

Is it more useful to have the information organized by month (e.g. in March you do xyz, in April it's...)? Or do you organize it by vegetable/topic (e.g. tomatoes, soil, starting seeds indoors,etc.)? Hhhmm...I'm thinking both would be very handy for new gardeners.

Well, thank you all for your input!

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slowjane CA/ Sunset 21

Another plant...

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galinas(5B)

you can actually stop them from making their tunnels longer (if you have reasonable number of plants. Feel the leave along the tunnel, near both ends. You may fill a bump. I you do, just squeeze the bump between to fingers(but do not rub, it will damage the leaf). If you fill pop - one bug less in your garden)
May be in south this pest is not a big problem, but I lost whole my crop of beets two years in a row because of them, and now i just grow it under cover.

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purpldoll6x

Thanks Dave, zach and galinas for the info. Glad to see I don't have a serious problem so far. This forum is wonderful and you all are great!

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