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Thanks I started them from some roots I got. I will probably just let them go. There is not really enough to do much with yet. I was surprised they even grew since they were planted pretty late in the year. I dug them in about 2 feet and filled the trench in with composted cow manure from my barn as they grew. THey should really be good next year.

Give them a couple of years, then watch out! LOL
We almost got tired of asparagus this year (not really! Just had to get creative how we used it!)
We have a 4x8 bed for the 2 of us and it is more than enough!
I think the rule is to let them grow year 1&2, harvest a few year 3 then go for it!
I still get a spear here and there and chop it up to go into a salad. Nancy

I am retired, so I get to do my watering in the morning. I am in the foothills of the coast range about halfway between Corvallis and Eugene. Tomatoes not doing so well this year. Not sure why(?) My garden plot is not fenced and THIS year I am dealing with very persistent, wily and hungry deer who are getting under (crawling?) netting over my raised beds. I just got a "Scare-Crow" sprinkler deterrent. See how that goes.

Yes it is kind of hot (no A/C) but I wouldn't trade this life for anywhere in the US of A

Sounds nice--I like that area. Maybe someday when I retire...can't live without a/c though. Never had it until 10 years ago, but I don't think I could go back.

Tomatoes are doing great here. Warmer & drier than usual.

Good luck with the scare-crow.

Cal, really wasn't trying to hijack your post, just thought it was funny that 2 Oregonians commented within a minute of each other. So, did you decide if you're going to pick a few of your serranos?

Horse manure is the only fertilizer I have used on my garden for the last 50 years.

My experience was like zeedman's when he first used cow manure......... I've always used pine shavings/chicken manure from my hen's until this spring when I bought a large load of composted cow manure to use on a new garden spot. The weeds were freaking unbelieveable!!!!! Sure hope this get better with age!!

In the last week or so, IA has been very hot, hasn't it?

Here's a picture of a male flower.

I agree, not enough time.

BTW, thanks for clarifying that you don't live in the river between TX and Mexico....

I agree...not enough time in most situations. I planted my last [7th] planting of 73 day corn on July 7th.

WHAT TO PLANT, depend on your climate. Your zone 5 is not all that a good guideline. What is your HEAT ZONE? when is your first fall frost date ? How will be average temperature for the rest of season ? etc.
But , I think GENERALLY, you can plan on planting fall crops that do not need ripening up. Mostly could be greeneries in the cabbage family, turnips, fall radishes, or the so-called COOL CROPS.

Maybe the question is what should you avoid? What else do the squash bugs like?

I have the same type of leaves. I'm in zone 9 and we've had a lot of 100+ days.
I think it's due to the hot dry weather that wilts the leaves in the day. The leaves bounce back but I can tell the wilting leaves the mottled effect.
My cuke still has new growth and has put out a bunch of blooms and 2 cucumbers developed.

Sounds like you may have flea beetles.

Thanks. I'll post over on the Harvest forum. I forgot about that group and just started here at my old standby.

Totally agree with Dave.

Yes - plug in lights are cheap and available. I buy them for $10-12 per 4 ft lamp not including the bulbs.

Ask for "shop lights"

I would put them outside, indirect/defused light. And little by little more sun. UNLESS the temperatures are SIZZLING..

myluck -- I LOLd!!

Deborah-sc,
kind of fits the name don't it. There is a reason.

There are small parasitic wasps that lay their eggs on these guys. The young eat their way out and form cocoons on the outside of the hornworm. The weakened hornworm will die before being able to pupate, but the cocoons will hatch and more wasps will go out in the world and attack and feed on more hornworms.

Those white things on hornworms aren't eggs. They are pupal cases.

Here's how it works:
The wasp eggs were inserted into the caterpillar.
The eggs hatched inside a well-provisioned cafeteria.
The wasp larvae ate until their next life stage.
The wasp larvae exited the caterpillar and formed pupae inside those white cases on the exterior of the caterpillar.
The next stage is when the adult wasps -- very tiny things - exit the pupal cases.

TaDa! Bio-control in action.

FWIW: I don't see a pupal case on the OP's image.
I think it's the end of one of the normal white lines on a tobacco hornworm..

Are those only the newer leaves?
If so, has anyone used Roundup (glyphosate) nearby?

Most of the affected leaves are new but I do see some damage at the edge of the older leaf in the center of this photo

Roundup hasn't been out of shed since early spring cleanup. I did spray the cage with Neem oil a week ago when I saw a few spots of mildew.

Thinking about it more, there may have been some overspray of a weak Miracle-Gro/soap mixture that I used to combat spider mites on nearby vines. I forgot to note that in my journal and now I and can't remember whether it was last Thursday or Friday. Could that have caused this?

Please post an image of the entire plant so that we can see what is affected and where.

I hope this will do. I have 9 cucumber plants in a home-made self watering container. They were doing fine on Friday but now 2 plants have this discoloration. Most of the affected leaves are close to the growing tip and some of the unfuled leaves on two plants seem to be discolored in the same way.

As always, thank you for your help.

This post was edited by Athenian on Mon, Jul 22, 13 at 14:55

These look like healthy plants except for the uppermost leaves that look as if something drifted onto them - a herbicide maybe. I would snip off the affected leaves to prevent it from spreading. I think they will recover.