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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Most flowering alliums are frown from bulbs but it is possible to grow them from seed.

Hybrids will not come true from seed of course. Sow ripe seeds as soon as possible or store in a fridge and sow in spring or indoors. Without cold storage the shelf life of the seeds is very short. Most will germinate within 12 weeks. It will take several years for plants grown from seed to reach the flowering size.

There are many 'how-to' discussions on the Allium forum that the search will pull up as well as into on the Bulbs forum and the Perennials forum.

Dave

    Bookmark     August 16, 2013 at 11:29AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Thank you gentlemen.

Allium flowers and seed pod are very much like onion(Round globe formation). I thought that it should not require refrigeration fo dormancy purpose.

I will try to germinate some right away and will refrigerate the rest for spring.

    Bookmark     August 16, 2013 at 2:55PM
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LoboGothic(6b SW Ontario CANADA)

ronjason, I'd be saving the seed and planting it in the spring. Lettuce seeds are usually true to the parent unless there's a lot of sow's thistle weed (wild lettuce) growing nearby. Really, you have nothing to lose if you sow it as soon as it is ready, you may have some young lettuce before freeze up.

    Bookmark     August 16, 2013 at 1:27PM
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LoboGothic(6b SW Ontario CANADA)

ronjason, I'd be saving the seed and planting it in the spring. Lettuce seeds are usually true to the parent unless there's a lot of sow's thistle weed (wild lettuce) growing nearby. Really, you have nothing to lose if you sow it as soon as it is ready, you may have some young lettuce before freeze up.

    Bookmark     August 16, 2013 at 1:28PM
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Newatthis22

Ah okay, the instantly word is the exact one that I wanted! Thank you for the ease of mind!

    Bookmark     June 26, 2013 at 1:31PM
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danzeb(7a long island)

Some ants do eat pollen. They are eating the pollen of my male zucchini flowers. I've put down ant traps but they are not interested in them. I need a way to get rid of the ants without insecticides that with kill bees.

    Bookmark     August 16, 2013 at 11:55AM
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Castle619

I never knew that, thank you both!

    Bookmark     August 15, 2013 at 7:52PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

They may or may not be 'pickling' cukes. Possible? Sure, but there is no way to tell for sure as they are all deformed due to poor growing conditions. The ones in the picture all suffered from inconsistent soil moisture - mostly too dry - levels while developing.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Pictures of normal pickling cucumbers

    Bookmark     August 16, 2013 at 11:43AM
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ltilton

Weather doesn't read the calendar. Frost dates are just an average, and it's always possible to have a longer growing season.

Since peppers are edible at any stage, the OP has plenty of time to get some green peppers to a useful size, particularly if the weather turns warm. I personally have little use for green peppers, and if the OP only wants red ones, it's too late for that. But a lot of people do like green peppers, and if the OP is one of them, I'd say to leave the plants and not write them off just when they might start producing.

But obviously, this is a personal decision, not a right-or-wrong thing.

This post was edited by ltilton on Thu, Aug 15, 13 at 15:18

    Bookmark     August 15, 2013 at 11:02AM
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gdnh(5)

Hi I am OP I have not yet decided. I am in zone 5 not 7 and the frost dates as some have mentioned are not set in stone. I have a cuke plant that looks like its about to give up producing so may pull that up and plant my lettuce there instead.

    Bookmark     August 16, 2013 at 8:39AM
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cugal(5b-6a NE Ks)

Thanks so much donnabaskets! Yeah, we never know what mother nature will serve up! Gardening offers up a challenge that a lot of folks aren't willing to take on, but if you truly derive enjoyment from gardening, you'll continue to learn & grow in your hobby...... Next year will be better! ;)

OBTW............. my hens say "thank you".......

    Bookmark     August 15, 2013 at 9:24PM
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2ajsmama

The picture is blurry, but from what I can tell looks like the normal green gel around the seeds. The bland taste could be the variety or could be too much water this year.

I agree, nice chickens!

    Bookmark     August 16, 2013 at 7:58AM
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TheAnimePiper(7B S. OR)

Hmmm. Then I guess it must've been labeled incorrectly cause that's what it said when I bought them. Oh well, I guess if that big one matures I'll see what it is.

Any idea why the others would be getting soft on the end?

    Bookmark     August 15, 2013 at 10:24PM
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ltilton

Incomplete pollination

    Bookmark     August 16, 2013 at 5:12AM
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vgkg(Z-7)

Kats, just to add to my first post above - My local Aug 23rd planting date for a fall garden is approximately 8 weeks before my area's first frost date, so to follow my schedule you'll need to adjust your planting time accordingly for your area's first average frost date.

    Bookmark     August 14, 2013 at 9:38AM
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bart1(6/7 Northern VA)

Don't forget fall Peas!

    Bookmark     August 15, 2013 at 7:37PM
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AiliDeSpain(6a - Utah)

Im on my second round of basil this year too and it is already flowering. I think it is due to the high temps. You can pinch the flowers off and encourage more bushy growth.

    Bookmark     August 15, 2013 at 4:37PM
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daninthedirt(Cent TX; HZ10, Sunset z30, USDA z8a)

Four plants in a 20cm pot? So each one has 5x5 cm of root space? They got a few inches tall and then stopped? No big surprise. You've got the equivalent of a foot-tall basil plant in that small pot. In my basil plot, the plants are at least a foot or a foot-and-a-half apart. Has this worked out for you before? I don't think it would work for me.

    Bookmark     August 15, 2013 at 4:41PM
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gardenlen(s/e qld aust)

yep too much all at once, with my pumpkins i look at them careful, and if they are nearing maturity then i watch the weather, but the fruit in your case still very much edible.

len

Here is a link that might be useful: lens garden page

    Bookmark     August 15, 2013 at 3:29PM
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AiliDeSpain(6a - Utah)

So as they reach maturity are you supposed to cut back on water?

    Bookmark     August 15, 2013 at 4:39PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Some times the tiny eggplant is hidden inside the dried
flower petals and therefore it is not readily visible. By feeling it you can tell that there is one forming.

    Bookmark     August 5, 2013 at 11:35PM
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krissylovesplants79

Thanks everybody. I have two tiny eggplant already, not near ready to pick but its there at least. I just hope I get more.

    Bookmark     August 15, 2013 at 12:10PM
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Mark(Oregon, Zone 8)

Looks to me like Botrytis (gray mold).

-Mark

    Bookmark     August 15, 2013 at 1:01AM
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donnabaskets(Zone 8a, Central MS)

Oh, yes. Quite active. I was slow getting my plants covered and I picked two or three dozen eggs off them last week. Then covered. I believe we get two "crops" of them each year. That's the downside of living in the south where we have a seven month summer growing season.

    Bookmark     August 14, 2013 at 2:51PM
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ltilton

That does complicate matters.

    Bookmark     August 14, 2013 at 10:35PM
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Mark(Oregon, Zone 8)

For starters, asparagus rises a little every year so mulching each winter is good for it.

As far as the beetles, I think every season is different. Some years I get them and others not. I haven't noticed much damage from them as they only seem to eat the ferns once i'm done harvesting. I did spray some pyrethrin this year as they were out in full force.
Your idea sounds like a good one, but i'm not sure it's the end all solution. I mulch in the fall after the beetles are all gone and still they seem to overwinter somewhere.

-Mark

    Bookmark     August 14, 2013 at 12:00AM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

usc- the soil has dropped about 6", not the gus.AND I probably didn't plant them deep enough to begin with cause I have to use hardware cloth to keep gophers out.
Mark- I usually dump some compost and either cardboard or newspaper on top (I'm very lazy in the winter!)
I didn't know gus rises a little each year! I guess adding stuff will be good!
This was my first year with beetle damage or shepard's crook, so I had very curvy, but still tasty asparagus! Just would like it to be nice and straight! LOL Nancy

    Bookmark     August 14, 2013 at 9:01PM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

Looks pumpkin-like to me!
I got a load of soil to fill a new bed one year, and we had boat loads of volunteer pumpkins! They got to be large for Jack-O-lanterns!
It worked out well, cause my DH is a professional pumpkin carver!
I would post pics if I knew how! Maybe sometime! Nancy

    Bookmark     August 11, 2013 at 11:08PM
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t.panda

Thank you both! We couldn't think of anything but pumpkin for our new found friend. I'll be sure to post a follow up at harvest time. :)

    Bookmark     August 14, 2013 at 4:22PM
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