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Grew CS when I lived in SoCal, and was pretty happy with it. Kept me in okra all Summer, but then, I had a lot of plants. It grew to over 6' tall there, with few branches..
As mentioned by Slimy_okra, the choice of okra may depend upon the location & climate. In my Northern location, summers are hot, but short... so I need a variety that bears quickly, and can tolerate a few cool nights. "Pentagreen" has proven to be reliable for me. It bears quickly, and will branch heavily if given space (I use 18-24" spacing between plants).
Tried to grow CS when I moved here, but it doesn't do well in this climate. That was the case for quite a few varieties that I tried, including some that were described as "good for the North". Most would start to get leaf browning just about when they started flowering, and only bear for a week or two before dying. "Pentagreen" has proven to be more robust... I recommend it for those of us who get snow & summer in equal measure.

"I knew a gardener was being born." Good on you, Susan! Not every child has contact with gardening at home.
Our daughter wanted to bring on of my big tomato starts to school for show-and-tell this spring (Grade 1). The Black Krim was ready to go out and had flowers already, so I just put transplanting off a couple of days so she could take it to school. I said they could open up one or two flowers to look at the structure and tip it out of the pot to see the roots. Apparently her classmates found the roots the most fascinating part. :)

Susanzone5, that is such a cool story! Thanks for sharing. That is why I started this thread. You just never know what cool plant might make it indoors. Glad you got to share some of your gardening with your students. I love the idea of bringing a plant for show-and-tell! I bet if more kids were exposed to plants, we'd have more kids interested in gardening and eating veggies.

What makes the wood spongeworthy (ha ha) is that there be fungi in it. No fungi, hugel does not work. And there is a difficulty in that most fungi eat either hardwood or conifer. They have very specialized enzymes. If you are in a place without conifers, and you bury dry pine, it might not work. Really, hugel was invented to get something out of large rotting logs or firewood which had taken too much rain. If the log is rotten, there are short term benefits as well as long. The benefits are essentially a strong micorrhyzal flora, lowering water and fertilizer needs. You also have a long term barrier (leaky of course) for all your percolating chemical fertilizers, and the wood is slightly more water retentive than clay, and significantly more than sand.


Thanks! they are really not hurting anything... so for now I'll leave them be... there is a insect war going on out there (I've seen some pretty amazingly huge insects out there this year) so hopefully there will be some casualties in my favor.

Go, Dan! I am betting they will be fine. I have found in past years that I actually get more snaps (and better tasting ones) from the fall crop than from the spring one....the weather only gets cooler as time goes on. By the time the plants start blooming, you should be over the hump. (or close)

Thanks, Donna. They're lookin' good. Actually, we have a cold front on the way, which will reduce the heat stress on them. That's where the temperature drops to the mid-90s. Get out your sweaters! Yeah, that's what a mid-August cold front in central Texas looks like ...




Depending on where you live in Zone 7, your best bet might be to plant a new crop of cucs. You have plenty of time to make a good crop. In my area, once the plants have been producing about two months, they start to succumb to all kinds of pests (pickleworms especially) and fungii. I think they are just old and tired, so I cut my losses, pull them out, and replant. If I had room, I would have a new crop ready to come on, but I don't. The break from them makes us glad to have them again in a few weeks.


If the end of the ears continue to not develop, I have to wonder if they had enough phosphorus and potassium [in relation to N] to develop the grain. How are any other garden crops doing?
I am wondering if the problem is drought damage...see link.
Here is a link that might be useful: tip fill
This post was edited by wayne_5 on Fri, Aug 9, 13 at 22:05

Given the adequate spacing I'm inclined to agree with Wayne, probably not enough water. The bottom part of that ear is fully mature. The tip 40% indicates a lack of some factor most likely water.
Water deficit is easy to see on corn. The leaves wilt and curl at first during the hottest part of the day. When they are wilting most of the day you will get ears like that picture.
A picture of the plants might help if further assistance is needed.

The silks will be brown and the ear will feel full. This will be about 2 weeks after it first silks. Pull the shucks back a bit and see if it is mature enough.
Once the corn is ready, if you cannot eat it fast enough, harvest it and store in the fridge....better than letting it get too tough.




Westy - you need more space. LOTS more space.
I know we need more space - this is our daughter's condo in Rock Creek area - we're building in Erie but the lots still aren't big enough for me - 25 feet between houses - shallow front yards, back yard is like a large city lot. I wanted to go to the mountains - but it's WAY more expensive up there and Colorado ANYWHERE is more expensive than Illinois. I belong in the north woods of Minnesota where I was born! (except the season for growing veggies there is about 3 months.
Westy