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ryseryse_2004

Cayenne peppers works great. You will have to re-sprinkle after a rain, but after a few months the rabbits won't bother with that area.

    Bookmark     August 23, 2013 at 4:09PM
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lolear(5b - Chicago)

I sprayed garlic tea all around the bed containing the carrots, the fencing and the wood of the raised bed. We'll see if that has the desired effect. I have seen the (?) bunny in the garden several times just hanging out in the shade, eating some fallen pears, but so far, no more damage to the fencing on the carrot bed.

    Bookmark     August 24, 2013 at 12:37PM
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vgkg(Z-7)

Maybe in about 7-8 weeks assuming that winter doesn't come on too soon. Be sure to thin them out well as beet seeds are little seed clumps that will send up 2-3 beet sprouts. Carefully thin these clumps down to one seedling without distrubing the remaining root, and then thin these single seedlings out to about 3" apart.

    Bookmark     August 24, 2013 at 9:36AM
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TOTEMs

Yes we did get that 5 inches of rain. I live in NWCT as well, East Canaan. Maybe that is the issue?

I know that I have read to not water c-loupe once they start to flower.

    Bookmark     August 23, 2013 at 6:14AM
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2ajsmama

I don't grow melons so I don't know, just a thought. If you're not suposed to water after flowering or fruit set, that heavy rain could have caused this. Where did you read to sop watering? Did it say why?

    Bookmark     August 24, 2013 at 8:47AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Does rain interfere with bees and pollination?
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Obviously, when it is rainy, the bees will take day off. So don't count on them when it is rainy.

    Bookmark     August 23, 2013 at 9:11AM
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springtogarden(6)

Thanks, guys :)! I will hand pollinate on those rainy days before the rain hits if I can.

    Bookmark     August 23, 2013 at 7:07PM
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cooperbailey

Rat traps 3. dogs 1. But rats were still munching on tomatoes at night.
So we went to second generation poison stations after conferring with a professional. The rats are supposed to feel sick and stay in their burrows and die rather than run around and die outside in the open.
There is nothing we can do about neighborhood rats but maybe we can cut down on them in the yard. time will tell.
Recently we have had good luck getting tomatoes as they reach the breaker stage- before the rats get them.

    Bookmark     August 23, 2013 at 12:38PM
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ryseryse_2004

Cats are definitely the best answer. Before we got ours, the mouse population was destroying our machinery. They ruined a lawn mower, ate the electrical parts of our truck and - they got into our camper and procreated gangbusters! That damage was unbelievable. I was vacuuming up baby mice.

Once we moved out to our farm property full time, we put out a welcome sign to cats. Ours are all neutered and are indoor/outdoor. Mostly outdoor but they come in regularly for 'lap time'. They take care of squirrels, rabbits, moles etc. and are care-free for the most part. (We do feed them but only mornings.)

    Bookmark     August 23, 2013 at 4:05PM
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ccabal(7)

Dan,
Well not just the proto-squash, actually the flower itself too. The whole thing is quite edible. I regularly pick the male squash blossoms and eat them in a variety of ways.

The reason I am suspecting the cool weather is because last year, in the fall I planted some acorn squash, mostly as an experiment to see if they would be able to give me something before it got too cold, and after the SVB were gone. They started off real good, but unfortunately where I planted them ended up getting very little sun later in the fall, and when it got cooler. I noticed they started producing many female flowers while the plants were not very big. Maybe the cool weather tells them to hurry up and start producing fruit so it can reproduce.

    Bookmark     May 2, 2013 at 10:24PM
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christripp

I have all female blossoms on my bn too and it's sad, every blossom just drops off, not ONE squash on a most vigorous, and healthy vine. It's too late now, I'm sure, if even ONE flower manages to become pollenated. It's very disappointing. Last year I managed to harvest at least 4 per plant. Not amazing but better then zero:(

oops, correction, I think the blossoms are all male, no bump under the flower.

This post was edited by christripp on Fri, Aug 23, 13 at 8:29

    Bookmark     August 23, 2013 at 8:23AM
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farmerdill

Tobasco grows with the pods pointing up so we can rule that one out. There are lots of peppers with that shape and size and hang down. Serranos, Thais etc.

    Bookmark     August 22, 2013 at 3:30PM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

How bout a pic of a ripe pepper that hasn't lost it's plump? I'd say Serrano or Thai also, except that they tend to be more pointy and you're pepper looks misshapen. And a lot of Thais grow UP.

Shiny pepper.

Kevin

    Bookmark     August 23, 2013 at 12:16AM
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yukkuri_kame(Sunset 19 / USDA 9)

Moringa Oleifera is a marginal die back perennial here at 1000 feet, but we are far away from the equator. We get light frosts a few times a year.

Yes Moringa S. is supposed to be a bit hardier.

How cold does it get?

I suppose you could design on a south-facing slope with thermal mass, reflecting ponds Sepp Holzer style, but maybe more effort than it is worth to grow something marginal.

There is a group in Spain, I believe, looking to breed Moringa O for a mediterranean climate.

    Bookmark     August 22, 2013 at 8:49PM
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farmerdill

Most popular bell is Green to red, followed by green to yellow, green to orange, purple to red, white to red. I don't know of any bell that starts yellow, altho some of the white bells like Blushing Beauty may be ivory at an early stage. I also don't know any bell that grows upright, so I also suspect you have a hot pepper. Definitely not a Golden Belle or Golden Cal Wonder.

    Bookmark     August 22, 2013 at 1:39PM
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shermthewerm(8 PNW)

Thanks, farmerdill! I was hoping you'd offer your expert opinion. So, probably a hot pepper--proceed with caution...

    Bookmark     August 22, 2013 at 7:44PM
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avocado101(9A Southern California)

Wow, you got some good dirt!

    Bookmark     August 22, 2013 at 7:19PM
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NilaJones(7b)

It is lovely dirt :). 50/50 compost and 'fines' from the gravel company. Light, well-drained, but not sand. And a very warm/hot location!

    Bookmark     August 22, 2013 at 7:40PM
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edweather(Zone 5a/b Central NY)

Beside the obvious leaf wilting, they appear to be a bit under fed. Leaves should be darker green. I was going to ask about PM, but you already mentoned that. Whatever vine the leaves are attached to is definitely in trouble. Possibly SVBs. I'd inspect the stem carefully.

    Bookmark     August 22, 2013 at 8:21AM
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springtogarden(6)

Thank you! I am going to search for bugs. I think I know why and when it got underfed. I will try to fix that. So far, it is just in that one area of the vine. The rest of the vine looks healthy. Should I bury that portion of the vine so it is stronger and more rooted?

    Bookmark     August 22, 2013 at 4:42PM
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ltilton

That's what I've always figured, so I don't trellis squash or pumpkins.

Some people don't have the room to grow these crops any other way, but if I do, I let them root on the ground.

    Bookmark     August 22, 2013 at 10:24AM
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ceth_k(11)

Every node on the vine(wherever the leaves sprouted) has the potential to grow roots. That is way weeding is so important so that the node touches the bare ground and not siting on some grass so that it can grow root there. If you could bury the nodes then it is even better, 'cause theoretically more roots will grow this way than simply letting the nodes sit on bare ground. What all this mean is that the more roots for the plant the faster the nutrient uptake. Many gigantic pumpkins are grown this way.

    Bookmark     August 22, 2013 at 10:51AM
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dirtguy50 SW MO z6a(6a)

Thanks Dave, I was hoping you would see this post. I am adding a lot of compost to the beds as they settled about 4" and I filled them back to the top of the beds and worked them in together.

    Bookmark     August 21, 2013 at 10:54PM
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donnabaskets(Zone 8a, Central MS)

Agree with Dave. My growing season goes from April thru October, so I have time for two summer crops per year, plus one crop through the winter. I assign each of my raised beds one crop family per year (beans, cucs, tomatoes, etc) and then plant two crops from the same family in it. The following spring I rotate. I rotate my winter crops on a yearly basis too. They go into the summer beds at the end of the season, but I rotate them (brassicas, roots, etc.) from year to year as well. I have had these raised beds for four years. So far, so good.

    Bookmark     August 22, 2013 at 10:29AM
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edweather(Zone 5a/b Central NY)

Those look like good tomatoes to me. Not the perfect slicers, but I see a nice salad coming out of those.

    Bookmark     August 22, 2013 at 8:16AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Sometimes it is just part of the character of the variety. It is not weather or pollination related. Some are lobed, some are "cat faced". This often seen in Black Krim, Brandywine.

Another possibility is that the seeds you planted came from an unintentional cross pollinated fruit.

    Bookmark     August 22, 2013 at 9:00AM
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zeedman Zone 5 Wisconsin

"Are Kentucky Wonder somewhat flattened (not wide though)? Mine don't look round (cross section) like the Bush Blue Lake. Since they're Burpee seeds, I'm wondering if I got mislabeled packet (has happened with tomatoes). I just got a handful and overcooked them last night b/c I was trying to cook edamame at the same time, so I can't tell flavor. "

Yes, KY Wonder start out flattened, especially when the pods are young.

I would think that if the beans were cooked along with edamame, that they would be under cooked... or the edamame over cooked. Edamame needs to be be only lightly cooked - for about 5-7 minutes, depending upon the variety & the amount prepared.

    Bookmark     August 22, 2013 at 1:49AM
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2ajsmama

Thanks, I am trying to pick them young so no strings. And they were in the pot in the boiling water, edamame was in steamer basket above, that's why the beans ended up overcooked (to my taste, I like things pretty underdone, except edamame LOL) after 5 minutes at a hard boil.

    Bookmark     August 22, 2013 at 7:14AM
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