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milehighgirl(CO USDA 5B/Sunset 2B)

lacyvail, I was inspired by a post from you! I have been getting mine from Bountiful Gardens (love them!) but also found them at Cook's Garden. $4.95 for a 2 gram packet at Cook's Garden, and $2.50 for the same at Bountiful Gardens. (That's a no-brainer!)

Have you been able to save seeds yet? From the previous post it seems that if they over-winter they should bolt and produce seed. They would have to be isolated also.

Here is a link that might be useful: Which variety of swiss chard to grow

This post was edited by milehighgirl on Tue, Apr 15, 14 at 14:05

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laceyvail(6A, WV)

I saved seed years ago, but the arrival of voles changed everything; they devour the roots over the winter, so saving seed is not an option.

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gardenper(8)

I usually like to use Mother Nature's rain to help water, so when I can see that some rain is coming in (especially with 80% chance!) then I would definitely get as many seeds/starts/seedlings planted out as much as possible.

The other part of this is that, while it's great to try to get them in before the rain, even the same day before the rain, but after the rain, you might have to wait a few days for the ground to dry more before doing other planting work.

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terry_neoh(5b)

Like most plants, deep watering about once a week should be fine for onion sets. Constant watering could lead to pink root or thrips. Mulch is okay, but pull it back some whenthe bulbs start to form.

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gardenper(8)

That sounds like a good spot for herbs that you could access easily from your deck. Otherwise, the suggestions from charlieboring are great!

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howelbama(7 NJ)

What is the drainage like? Does the cement slab cause the new soil you put in to puddle up during heavy rain?

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lucillle

That's a good idea but I think most are coming to help with the work. I think some of them are her good friends but not gardeners.
But I will make a point of suggesting a plant trade party for next year. (Hopefully dear son will have proposed by then, this gf is a keeper).

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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

LOL Many moons ago, my BIL wanted to have a rugby club party at our 5 acre place (they were city folk)
We thought this would be a great opportunity for some strong young men to help us dig our garden area!
We put the keg at the far end of the garden area and a bunch of shovels at the gate with instructions to dig their way to the keg.
What we ended up with was a trompled down path from the gate to the keg!
Don't include beer, but food might be a better incentive ......or beer AFTER the garden is done! ;) Nancy

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carolync1(z8/9 CA inland)

If nighttime temperatures are the issue, put the tomatoes outdoors during the day, getting them gradually used to full sun. Bring them in at night. Keep transplanting into larger (but not TOO MUCH larger) containers with good drainage and well-aerated planting mix to help the plants concentrate on growing bigger rather than flowering and fruiting. One USDA extension in Texas recommends starting plants early and transplanting up to a gallon sized container before setting out because their hot weather sets in so fast in the spring.

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annew21(7b NC)

Definitely agree with Dave about removing the blossoms. I always remove early blossoms after I have planted in the garden, until the plants have at least doubled (or more) in size. It definitely seems to improve production in the long run.

- Anne

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pnbrown

If rows are east west then of course more care must be taken to get tallest crops to the north and shortest south.

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gardenper(8)

I grow 3 varieties of peppers that I like to eat, and about 3 varieties of basil also. So while you mentioned a general name of the plants you had, in case you were only growing one kind, now you can grow several kinds.

I also like mustard greens as well as feeding it to my birds for their greens to munch on.

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howelbama(7 NJ)

You want your tallest plants (trellised or otherwise) on the northern side of your garden so they don't shade out anything.

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gardenper(8)

Crop rotation was more of an idea for larger planting areas where it may not have been possible to replenish the nutrients there for the next season (or two), including not having enough compost to cover the entire growing area.

However, in backyard plots, you can do that with compost or other nutrient mixes for the small quantity of planting that you will do.

You can still use the idea of square foot gardening in your yard, so you can make more use of the growing space.

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jonfrum(6)

Frost-damaged potato vines will grow back - no problem. I wouldn't bother starting them under lights - not much is gained.

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Agree they will grow back unless the container and all of its contents got frozen, they recover. I had damage to exposed tops the past two nights in my potato fields, and we had hilled them under when the freeze was forecast, but expect full recovery.

Dave

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andy32844

Yea it looks like the pictures I posted. Those are pictures I took last night. I just wanted to be sure before I haul it to the garden.

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2ajsmama

Sorry! So many posters I didn't notice that the person who posted the pix was the OP. That looks really good, till it in or just spread it thick and plant right in it, the worms will take care of the rest.

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bart1(6/7 Northern VA)

That's garlic you harvested last year, right?

Not sure when you harvest in San Francisco, but for me in VA, we harvest in June, so my bulbs have been sitting around for 10 months. Mine has been pushing out new "sprouts" for months. I just use the ones that are growing sprouts first and save the rest for later.

So to answer your question, what causes this is time. Garlic, onions, and potatoes will all start growing if you leave them long enough.

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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

OK. Now I get it. Those are last years galics ?
The one that has fully opened, probably was overdue when harvested OR just the sprouting pressure pushe the wraps open b'c there was not enough wrap on it to begin with. JMO

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Prachi(6b (NJ))

Ok Nevermind I found my answer. Funny that I can search garden web better when I search from google versus gardenwebs own search engine.

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Flyster

It's mostly protein, fat and fibre with small amounts of phosphous, sodium and calcium.

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djkj(9b)

I used fish emulsion and it works nicely as a foliar spray. I sometimes water with fish emulsion in a watering can . It smells really bad for some time and then its OK :)

Here is a link that might be useful: Foliar Spraying Plants

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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

I agree with Howelbama. Foliar feeding is bypassing the root system , where certain nutrients might not be readily available. It is also a quick fix. But if your soil has a correct pH and certain element are not in balance, foliar feeding can help. The Miracle Grow water soluble fertilizer in a feeder/sprayer does that in part. So people get lush flowers. Just be careful to use a light dose not to burn the plants. I have used epsom salt and peroxide in the past but not sure how effective it is.

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djkj(9b)

I think there are some plants that it is effective on. For example, I see tomatoes flourishing when foliar feeding them. It may have to do with the fish or seaweed in the spray. The micro nutrients may be more readily absorbed via the stoma.

This post was edited by djkj on Wed, Apr 16, 14 at 0:39

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Why not post this over on the Companion Planting forum here? That will get you the best feedback from those who follow that school of thought.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Companion Planting forum

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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

Creativeguy, I was thinking the same thing about being able to turn your tomato support system into a greenhouse. :-)

Thanks Seysonn, yes, that is another way I could do it. Working on this with my son so I'll pass along all these suggestions and see what he wants to do. He does have a circular saw and some experience with wood, too.

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mckenziek(9CA)

I would definitely level them. Water will have less tendency to run off that way.

--McKenzie

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