23,948 Garden Web Discussions | Vegetable Gardening

Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
vgkg(Z-7)

Sorry sdg, this side of the forum is rather sleepy. As you may have already found out most hail damaged gardens survive ok in time, unless of course it was one of those hail storms that look like it snowed. Hope your's survived ok by mid July.

edited to add :
But your squash probably didn't make it past the July borers, they're worse than hail!

This post was edited by vgkg on Thu, Aug 8, 13 at 18:05

    Bookmark     August 8, 2013 at 6:03PM
Sign Up to comment
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
donnabaskets(Zone 8a, Central MS)

Oh, my. This is me embarrassed. I was, indeed, thinking of broccoli. Nevertheless, raab is in the same family and does require careful seed starting. Sorry!

    Bookmark     August 8, 2013 at 4:51PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
farmerdill

No need to be embarrassed. The name broccoli raab throws most people. But it is actually a turnip. Grow like you would grow any turnip. It speciallizes in growing a seed head which remind some folks of a broccoli floret.

Here is a link that might be useful: Growing broccoli raab

    Bookmark     August 8, 2013 at 5:48PM
Sign Up to comment
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
jimster(z7a MA)

Deleting duplicate post.

Here is a link that might be useful: Melon Meter App

This post was edited by jimster on Wed, Aug 7, 13 at 13:32

    Bookmark     August 7, 2013 at 1:29PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
vgkg(Z-7)

Thanks Wayne, the coopertown seedless sounds good, and yellow doll has been one of my favs for years now. Too bad the smallish melons have a shorter shelf life than the Big Boys, at least that's been the case here. Crimson Sweet & Lanthum sugar baby types do grow well here so I may opt for a mid size as bernadette mentioned and pick em' at their peak. Really love the Big Raspas....maybe just one plant...I can feel that hernia already :)

    Bookmark     August 8, 2013 at 5:42PM
Sign Up to comment
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
planatus(6)

Sad to say I think it's too late. I have found that b sprouts have a very narrow planting window which opens and closes the first two weeks of June in Z 6.

You can direct seed kale, collards, kohlrabi and lots of other stuff now, though.

    Bookmark     August 6, 2013 at 8:17AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
CarloMartin947

As planatus says above, it's probably a bit late for brussel sprouts now. His suggestion about direct sowing of kale is a good one, if you like it. A detailed description of how to plant kale can be found here:
http://alan-chadwick.org/html%20pages/techniques/garden_plants/veg_photos%203.html

Here is a link that might be useful: Alan Chadwick

    Bookmark     August 8, 2013 at 4:28PM
Sign Up to comment
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
newyorkrita(z6b/7a LI NY)

Those look great!

    Bookmark     August 8, 2013 at 1:56PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
weedlady(Central OH 6)

Yes, and actually these are what I would call "seconds" as I tend to give away the nicer-looking ones! I have been picking 3-5 nice ones daily from my 4-foot, trellised row. (Probably 6 plants.)

    Bookmark     August 8, 2013 at 2:53PM
Sign Up to comment
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
ltilton

These Jackson Wonders are more like dime sized, which I think they're supposed to be. I'll go out tomorrow and see if I can extract any,

    Bookmark     August 7, 2013 at 6:10PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
ltilton

So these are the limas. I'd rather have them on the smaller side, as baby limas, but it's a lot easier to shell them when they've grown larger.

Still have to say they're harder to shell than peas.

    Bookmark     August 8, 2013 at 2:34PM
Sign Up to comment
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

Lacewing larvae. Just ordered mine yesterday. If you insist on spraying, do what Rodney said, about 3-4 days apart at dusk. Rinse plants with plain water a couple hours later or in the morning. Then move onto a weekly schedule after that.

And if that don't do it, try the same with neem oil.

Kind of difficult in AZ. One shouldn't use ANY pesticide when the temperature is over 80F. At dusk, it's well over 80 there, no?

if so, then do the spraying first thing in the morn before it's too hot. Make sure you rinse before the heat comes for the day.

Kevin

    Bookmark     August 6, 2013 at 11:20PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
captaininsano (9b/13) Peoria, AZ.

I sprayed with just a dishwashing soap and water, it looks like it got a good amount of the little suckers, and plants seem fine, I will keep with this until I can tell if it goes one way or the other. It was a little disconcerting seeing the entire leaves covered with insects. We are finally cooling down here only 100 to 108 degrees this week with lows dropping a little below 80, Thanks for the info.

    Bookmark     August 8, 2013 at 12:37PM
Sign Up to comment
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
macky77(2a)

Your string is awesome. :)

I started Guelph Millennium from seed in 2004 (if memory serves) and have a bed of two dozen here myself. Wonderful, wonderful asparagus variety. Our patch is completely neglected a still produces thumb-thick spears for a good six weeks and ferns taller than my six-foot hubby.

The last three or four years, we've been having the same issue with something eating the sides of the top of the shoots, causing them to curl. What's different in our case is that the nibble seems to be happening *before* the spear breaks the soil level. Because of that, my suspects are either asparagus beetle larvae or cutworms.

I've been over to my local greenhouse here in town and to Early's in the city and both places have recommended Sevin. I'm not comfortable using something that indescriminate, though, so I'm still in wait-and-see mode. Last year was the worst year yet (over half the spears had damage), which is why I was looking into control measures. This year, though, there were only a handful here and there. I wonder if the seemingly never-ending winter thinned out some of the pests.

Roughly what percentage of your spears are being damaged? Are you able to wait it out and see if this is something long-term or short-term or is the damage too much?

A mistake I learned I'd been making was using the ferns themselves as winter mulch (seemed simplest just to tuck them over where they lay). Apparently that provides ideal habitat for asparagus beetles to overwinter. I'll be doing away with them this fall and using straw instead. Hopefully that will improve the situation next year. We'll see.

    Bookmark     August 8, 2013 at 2:43AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
thirsty_dirt_77(3a)

macky77 my asparagus is also Guelph Millennium. :)

I never even thought that they may have been eaten when the were below the dirt but I think its very unlikely. I check (and count) everyday and I'm pretty positive they were fine one day and nibbled a few days later.

We are having a bad year for grasshoppers and about the time I noticed the nibbling we were at the peak (hopefully) of the infestation. Out of the now 60-ish spears maybe 1/2 dozen were nibbled so I'm not too concerned - just annoyed and wanting to prevent further damage.

It seems like every spear that was nibbled had enough damage done to halt their growth but I noticed new spears coming up beside the damaged ones already.

As for the asparagus beetle, I'm not sure how far north you are but I think we are safe from threats of them - unless of course you'll actually caught them!!

If your spears are being damaged below the surface could it be grubs? (japanese beetle larva) We had grub issues in our potatoes a few years ago - they would eat holes in the potatoes and leave exposed tracks around the potatoes making them very difficult to store. We ended up spraying with nematodes a few times in one year and haven't had much of an issue since.

We got the nematodes from Natural Insect Control - http://www.natural-insect-control.com

They were also very helpful in identify the pest. It might be worth contacting them to see what they have to say.

    Bookmark     August 8, 2013 at 12:25PM
Sign Up to comment
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

Fertilization, as suggested above, refers to incomplete pollination.

    Bookmark     August 8, 2013 at 1:51AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
dorthey4(3)

No, not rotting. I have seen that other years and know it's a pollination problem. They just stop growing, turn dark green like they should but that's it.

    Bookmark     August 8, 2013 at 11:47AM
Sign Up to comment
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
ltilton

Or it was a hybrid squash reverting to one of its parent strains.

    Bookmark     August 8, 2013 at 9:04AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Spaghetti squash or not?

Odds are very high that it is not. Squash volunteers are very rarely true to breed.

Dave

    Bookmark     August 8, 2013 at 10:16AM
Sign Up to comment
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
thirsty_dirt_77(3a)

I planted 25 crowns of asparagus this year so you're a year ahead of me but I can tell you what I've discovered in the process.

I was told that a "light" harvest can occur the second year and the following years you can normally pick what you want. When they say "thin" I've heard(read) it being compared to the thickness of a pencil.

Asparagus have male and female plants and the male tend to produce larger spears because the females put more energy towards seed production. I planted Guelph Millenium which is an all male plant so I don't get seeds and my spears will(should) be larger.

When I talk to people about asparagus I compare them to a tulip. The crown is like the bulb where energy is stored for next years spear productions. The more asparagus you allow to go to fern the more energy the crown stores for next year - don't remove the fern until it has died back in the fall or you may not have any asparagus next year because the plant was unable to store energy for spear production. Thin spears are generally female and are a result of little energy being stored, larger spears means more energy was stored.

When your female plants go to seed you can either pick the seeds or allow them to drop and then next year you'll also get asparagus growing from those seeds.

I don't see anything wrong with harvesting from the second growth as long as the spears are aren't too "thin." :)

When you're done harvesting your asparagus for the year and allow it to fern out I read that this is the time to fertilize. Fertilizing with a high nitrogen fertilizer allows the fern to grow and therefore transfer energy into storage for next year.

Like I said, this is mainly what I've read and don't have much first hand experience yet. Good Luck

    Bookmark     August 8, 2013 at 1:13AM
Sign Up to comment
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
edweather(Zone 5a/b Central NY)

I would spray if they were mine. Since male and female flowers are most viable in the am, I would spray late in the day after the bees and sun has had their way with that days flowers. I use Daconil also.

    Bookmark     August 7, 2013 at 4:25PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
armyofda12mnkeys(7a, Philly, PA)

K thanks ed, I'll spray some Daconil soon :)

    Bookmark     August 7, 2013 at 11:11PM
Sign Up to comment
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
weluvbulldogs

Thank you for the replies! I went out to the garden this morning to see if I could figure out how many male/female blooms I have. Of about 30ish blooms, I could only identify 3 females. I guess that could be my problem, huh? Any clue why there are so few females?

    Bookmark     August 7, 2013 at 11:38AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
ltilton

Typically, some curcubits put out male flowers first, then start producing females. But it's too late in the year for that to be likely.

    Bookmark     August 7, 2013 at 8:17PM
Sign Up to comment
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
Drewski_(5b (Milw, WI))

The goal is to have at least 1 pumpkin be harvested before it starts gettin cold. I doubt we have that many 80+ degree days left in this growing zone.
And here's the thing...there are side vines/branches beginning to sprawl over the collards & watermelon & such..and clearly, we all kno that they don't intend on stoppin anytime soon. Sooo, I'm wondering if I can snip those guys off, but keep any others that aren't strangling my others w/ their tendrils..

    Bookmark     August 7, 2013 at 12:45PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
ltilton

Sure. Your pumpkin may not grow as large as it might otherwise, but if that's not your goal, you can go ahead and prune.

    Bookmark     August 7, 2013 at 8:15PM
Sign Up to comment
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

Nice recent harvests everybody! Great pics!

If you want to take a look at my most recent pepper pics, click on the link below.

Thanks.

Kevin

Here is a link that might be useful: Link to my post in the hot pepper forum

This post was edited by woohooman on Thu, Aug 8, 13 at 19:28

    Bookmark     August 7, 2013 at 6:06PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
newyorkrita(z6b/7a LI NY)

Tom, eggplant and carrots look very good.

bsmith, those tomatoes look yummy and cukes look good too.

    Bookmark     August 7, 2013 at 6:37PM
Sign Up to comment
© 2015 Houzz Inc. Houzz® The new way to design your home™