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CaraRose

Thanks, I'll probably hit the whole garden up this weekend with the cooler temps we're having.

    Bookmark     July 25, 2013 at 10:47PM
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fruitnut Z7 4500ft SW TX

Watermelons only flower on new growth. If you don't keep them growing with at least moderate vigor they stop any meaningful flowering. I need to fertilize every 2-4 weeks because my soil is very permeable. That means nitrogen leaches away quickly.

Properly done I can harvest fruit off the same plant late June until October. But two plantings make it easier. About 2 months fruit off each.

    Bookmark     July 25, 2013 at 11:04PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Another culprit could be slugs/snails. But normally they are more active earlier in the season when the plants are small seedlings or just sprouting. The thing about s &s is that they are out during the night. To find out you have to inspect at night with a flash light.

    Bookmark     July 25, 2013 at 2:15PM
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sunnibel7 Md 7(7)

The orange-copper nocturnal beetles are asiatic garden beetles, and to me a good reason for you to check for them is that you have the same damage to basil and peppers. This is exactly their feeding pattern at my house. Also mint and sweet potatoes and chard tend to get targeted.

    Bookmark     July 25, 2013 at 7:02PM
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happyday(WI4a)

I just looked at Seeds from Italy and if you buy 12 or more packs of seeds you get one pack free. It's automatic instead of using a coupon. Nice!

    Bookmark     November 18, 2010 at 4:20PM
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tucson_tomato(9)

I have over a dozen cucumber-melon varieties that I grow. They come in all shapes and sizes. The picture I attached is of a round variety I grew called Carosello Tondo Massafra.

The benefits of growing cucumber-melons are that they are burpless (don't cause indigestion), they are bitter-free, and they grow quickly in the heat. They also tend to be rather disease resistant. I often grow these varieties and post pictures of them on my blog, listed below.

Note: Though I am sharing the following picture, I do not give permission for it to be used without prior consent.

Here is a link that might be useful: Scientific Gardener Blog

    Bookmark     July 25, 2013 at 5:45PM
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dog_wood_2010(7)

Hey sorry about your cucumbers not producing. Sounds like you are doing everything right. I hope you uncover the mystery soon. Good Luck

    Bookmark     July 25, 2013 at 2:41PM
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hortster(6a, southcentral KS)

mandolls, I dug back through my garden notes and found this:

"May 28. Cukes are surviving but took transplant hard. Diva looks best, all three seedlings alive. Early Spring has died back to 2 of 4. Both vars. beginning first leaves after seedling leaves."

It seems that we had high wind around then that may have beat them up a little. The Early Spring cukes completely fizzled.

Will recall this thread and file a future report if and when the Divas get to work.

hortster

    Bookmark     July 25, 2013 at 3:13PM
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newyorkrita(z6b/7a LI NY)

I loved the Yards long beans so much that I am growing them again this year.

I sowed Red Seeded Asparagus Beans in place and they have popped up already what with the hot weather we have been having lately. I planted them in the middle of a 7 foot square raised veggie bed where I put up green metal fence posts and trellis netting for them. Then the white seeded Asparagus Beans I had started in one of those veggie seedling packs and those I just transplanted out today.

    Bookmark     June 1, 2013 at 3:21PM
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newyorkrita(z6b/7a LI NY)

The yard longs are starting to produce.

    Bookmark     July 25, 2013 at 1:38PM
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florauk(8/9)

Yes, pn - the hottest temperature measured this year in the UK has been 92 - on one day in west of London. It's been big news! If I had to emigrate I'd need to go to PNW - anywhere else I'd melt, or freeze, I reckon ;-)

    Bookmark     July 25, 2013 at 4:05AM
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princessgrace79(8 PNW)

We are zone 8 here, but heat zone 2 I think? Things grow like crazy here (Portland OR) but we battle slugs/clay soil/rainy springs. There is very little that wont grow here at all except for citrus/tropics. Not all of it grows well though :) we are having a good summer this year, sunny and 80 degree days since May.

    Bookmark     July 25, 2013 at 1:27PM
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nugrdnnut(6a n-c WA)

This is my first time planning and planting for a fall/winter crop. I direct sowed broccoli, cabbage and lettuce and have had very good germination rates. It has been at or near 100 degrees for a week and I sowed those seed 5 days ago. I water morning and evening to keep my raised bed from getting dry.

I will see how it goes for the next few weeks and hope for the best.

Tom

    Bookmark     July 24, 2013 at 10:37PM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

kawaiineko: Maybe... All depends on when the hard freezes come, because brassicas can handle FROST with no problem. I wouldn't know about hard freezes... we just don't get them here.. Tishtosh is right regarding DTM -- I've NEVER had a cauli head after 65 days like the package says. It's more along the same lines as broccoli -- 90-100.

Nugednut: I can't stress enough how much easier it is to start brassicas and lettuces under shoplights for fall plantings -- it's just too damn hot in most parts of the U.S. for germination. And even if they do sprout, the seedlings would need shade. Even for spring plantings, I start them under shoplights--- this way, they have a 6-8 week start before the heat of late spring and summer comes along.

Kevin

    Bookmark     July 25, 2013 at 12:40PM
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florauk(8/9)

Those aren't Canna seed pods - but I can't say what it is. It looks as if it might be putting up another flower stem (top right). Can you post again if it does?

    Bookmark     July 24, 2013 at 5:35AM
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scottywags

Yes it has flowered in the past it was a yellow flower.
Here is another pic I took today that should have a better view of the flower part.

    Bookmark     July 25, 2013 at 11:32AM
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8fleetfeet(5)

This looks like it might explain the problem:

http://plantdiagnostics.umd.edu/level3.cfm?causeID=400

    Bookmark     July 24, 2013 at 5:15PM
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christopherforrester

Thank you everyone for your thoughts. I really appreciate it.

    Bookmark     July 25, 2013 at 11:15AM
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mctiggs(2b (WPG, MB))

I have all of my tomatoes in the garden this year. The reason these are in pots is becuase they are the superhot varieties that need to be in containers. I'll scout around for a better location I guess. Tough to find room for 16 buckets, and this is the only completley shadeless spot. Thanks for the heads up the last thing I'd want is scorched/rotten peppers after all of this.

    Bookmark     June 6, 2013 at 1:14PM
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mctiggs(2b (WPG, MB))

Just a follow-up. Fatali is feeling fine! Proud and noble once more. I've heard it before on this forum and I agree: peppers are hard to kill.

    Bookmark     July 25, 2013 at 11:12AM
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Bigjajapoof

Used some Miracle Gro stuff from Lowes. Kind of new at this so now sure what i'm really doing haha. Glad to hear it's not really disease. Any suggestions on fertilizer? Oh and these are in a raised bed.

    Bookmark     July 25, 2013 at 6:43AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

I do not understand what your concern is: Lack of fruit or problem with the leaves ???
Cucumber leaves are very sensitive to environmental and handling causes. They get bruised easily.. and the rest.

About fertilizing: I will use a balanced fertilizer(N,P,K). Some MG all purpose ferts have too much Nitrogen, that can result in nice foliage but not necessarily good fruiting. IMO.

    Bookmark     July 25, 2013 at 7:17AM
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ltilton

I use the kind with the probe that goes into the meat, or the soil. No wire. It goes down to the freezing point.

I check the soil temp in the spring for first planting and again in the fall.

btw, I understand that 4 inches down is the right depth.

    Bookmark     July 24, 2013 at 10:21PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

There are simple kitchen thermometers that has a range of 0F to 220F. There are both with digital and analog displays. I have the latter. It has a probe of about 6" long.
You can find one in the household/kitchen ware section in most supermarkets.

    Bookmark     July 25, 2013 at 4:25AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

There have been several discussions on these forums over the years about tomatillos and the consensus seems to be that you need more than one plant because they need to be cross pollinated to set fruit reliably.

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@ Rodney

Not true. Several years ago (Then I had a different user name. I lost my password and registered under current name) I challenged that consensus and proved it WRONG. By planting just one tomatillo plant and got bumper crop. And as far as I could tell there was not even a veggies garden in a half mile radius. I was then in Atlanta GA area.

Mine is not fruiting b/c it is a Mexican strain and I am in heat zone one, not heat zone 10 like in Mexico or down South. .

    Bookmark     July 24, 2013 at 10:07PM
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annew21(7b NC)

I'm in the south and have seen tons and tons of flowers and yet not one fruit. I have never gotten fruit from tomatillos. Ever.

    Bookmark     July 24, 2013 at 10:35PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

You can buy it from whole foods market or from the Organic section of your grocery store. But selections is limited. Same goes for garlics. I will never buy them my mail order. Supposedly(they claim) it is certified. Probably 95 % of the potatoes grown in Idaho can pass certification test anyway.

    Bookmark     July 24, 2013 at 9:55PM
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sweetquietplace(6 WNC Mtn.)

I tried to grow some Klondike Rose from Green Giant. They must have been gassed to kingdom come because they never even thought about sprouting. I did get most of the Klondike Gold Dust growing though.

    Bookmark     July 24, 2013 at 10:34PM
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edweather(Zone 5a/b Central NY)

Like my grandfather used to say, "They're pros, they do it for a living."

    Bookmark     July 24, 2013 at 9:29PM
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