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raistlyn

You are right that the pot is probably too small but oh well, next year i will do better.

I just read somewhere that eggplants that feel hard and very firm are UNripe! If they are too matured, their flesh would sink in when you pressed them. Now im confused... so is it TOO ripe or UNripe?? In any case, it wasn't ripe.. :p

    Bookmark     July 17, 2013 at 3:50PM
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Slimy_Okra(2b)

That's right, and only unripe eggplants are edible. Ripe eggplants are seedy, bitter and generally not fit for consumption. The harder and firmer they are, the better! Picking eggplants is a bit of an art too - you have to compromise on how hard and firm and shiny they are versus how big they are. Basically, it's the exact opposite of a tomato! The more mature, the worse the taste. In addition, the riper they are, the tougher the flesh is after cooking. It's all rather counterintuitive but eggplants are tricky that way.

Your eggplant was probably just about to ripen, which combined with the water stress contributed to bitterness.

This post was edited by Slimy_Okra on Wed, Jul 17, 13 at 18:47

    Bookmark     July 17, 2013 at 6:43PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

I will keep them in ground as long as top is green. If soil temps remain under 75F(or so), tubers will grow. On the other hand potatoes need 3 to 4 month (from sprouting to harvest), depending on the variety. Yours are right in there.

    Bookmark     July 17, 2013 at 2:23PM
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gardenlen(s/e qld aust)

they don't need to flower before harvest, i wouldn't worry too much about those spots, let them die off then harvest.

len

Here is a link that might be useful: lens instant potato patch

    Bookmark     July 17, 2013 at 4:44PM
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uscjusto

I think the consensus is that you still have time. Zone 9 has a long growing season too so just plant them.

Would you plant something else instead? If not, it won't hurt to just try cucumbers now.

    Bookmark     July 17, 2013 at 4:29PM
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wittyraven(4)

Well I was trying to pollinate with them even though I couldnt see any pollen. And my squash were dieing... they stopped dieing after I started pollinating with the zucchini blooms... just strange.

    Bookmark     July 17, 2013 at 2:30PM
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raistlyn

Really strange because I was wondering the exact same thing yesterday! There was a female flower open and the male flower was almost open so i pealed it open and to be surprise, there didnt seem to be any pollen!? Just the yellow clump in the middle. I went ahead to hand pollinate anyway but I dont think I succeeded because the fruit behind the female flower doesnt look any bigger today... this isnt my first time hand pollinating but ive never come across a male with no pollen! Hoping things will get better next round!

    Bookmark     July 17, 2013 at 3:47PM
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farmerdill

Many yellow zucchini go dark green with high temperatures. Have not had a real problem with yellow scallops like Sunburst or Sunbeam. What variety are you growing? One Ball quickly becomes green with firts heat wave.

    Bookmark     July 17, 2013 at 3:30PM
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ccabal(7)

Creek-side,
The advantage of a pumpkin is that you can bury the vine. I suggest next time you grow pumpkin, bury your vines with dirt as much as you can. They will root at many different places along the vine, and those buried sections will not be as susceptible SVBs.

    Bookmark     July 17, 2013 at 3:10PM
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daninthedirt(Cent TX; HZ10, Sunset z30, USDA z8a)

This has probably been covered elsewhere, but I'm wondering about whether Bt stem injections are useful as an SVB damage preventative. Perhaps a stupid question, so bear with me. My understanding of the usual strategy is that you wait until you see the frass, and then squirt Bt into the hole to kill the bugger. But why not just fill the vines with Bt solution? Yes, that's maybe a lot of fluid, but the Bt is cheap. Very diluted. I can make tens of gallons for a few bucks.

Instead of inspecting all the vines carefully every day or two, this way, I figure I'd just pump 'em up say, every week. I've never done Bt injection, as I like row covers, but row covers are hard to do for non-vining cucurbits, like zukes. How many gallons (ounces?) of Bt does it take to fill up a zuke plant? How long does the fluid stay in the stems? Do they leak?

    Bookmark     July 17, 2013 at 3:30PM
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njitgrad

The kitchen knife did the trick. I cut through halfway and then snapped it off gently. I didn't want to go all the way through with the knife and injure the plant.

My wife was thrilled that she got two more today after the first one yesterday. Man they grow fast. Zuchinni, that is :)

    Bookmark     July 17, 2013 at 2:18PM
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newyorkrita(z6b/7a LI NY)

They do grow fast. And taste best if you pick them young and tender.

    Bookmark     July 17, 2013 at 3:04PM
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sunnibel7 Md 7(7)

I've always wondered about injecting Bt into squash stems. Am I understanding it correctly now, that basically the idea is it is coating the inside of the hollow stem, not getting it into the tissues? Would cutting a small slit and introducing the Bt with an eye dropper also work?

    Bookmark     July 17, 2013 at 11:07AM
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CaraRose

Any way to put the BT on the inside of the vine (where the little @$!@#*#*#$*$%%*%*%*$!!$#&*#$&*'s eat) will work. I think a needle probably will cause less damage than a slit.

As long as it isn't a marinade injector. I mauled my plants trying to use that last year. Too big and awkward of a needle.

    Bookmark     July 17, 2013 at 12:50PM
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ltilton

Plant some more.

Older vines tend to start producing inferior fruit.

    Bookmark     July 17, 2013 at 12:29PM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

I get them by the thousands in winter!
You can't hear yourself speak right after a big rain! Literally! We don't even hear them! LOL People visiting will ask what that NOISE is??????? We don't notice!
I find them all over the garden all year long (and occasionally in the house!) In pots, soil bags on plants behind everything!
We don't use our hot tub anymore cause they are attracted to the boron and jump in and drown! We're working on a solution for that!
Nancy

    Bookmark     July 17, 2013 at 11:44AM
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shermthewerm(8 PNW)

Well, I'm not sure if I'd appreciate sharing a hot tub with them either, Nancy. I sure thought this little guy was cute, though, nestled between the stones. You would think we'd see more of them here with our climate, but like I said this is the first one I've seen in over 10 years.

    Bookmark     July 17, 2013 at 11:54AM
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CaraRose

I mentioned this in the other thread, but nearly all stables in the Chicagoland area bed on wood shavings rather than straw. They also don't really compost, they just pile up used bedding and manure till they have too much and then have someone haul some away.

Decaying wood, I believe, consumes N. So you're manure component, may have been low on N to begin with, and been depleting any other N once it's been mixed in.

    Bookmark     July 17, 2013 at 10:52AM
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a13art

I got the compost from the horse stables on 130th and Lagrange ave. also plants are growing but are still small for this time of year and wore pal with tints of yellowing early season till I added tomatoe tone. And I think it used all of the n up in that. Here's my garden now

    Bookmark     July 17, 2013 at 11:14AM
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shermthewerm(8 PNW)

I wouldn't change anything, they look great. You might accidentally damage the stems or roots if you try to reposition them. They'll probably continue growing down the other side without any issues.

    Bookmark     July 17, 2013 at 11:04AM
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iowajer

I don't think they like it too well, but like someone once said... they don't know until they try it. And enough were trying it on mine that I fenced mine in.

I used some deer-away spray on bush beans and things like that, and it really works. But I didn't want that rotten egg smell on my asparagus. (I now have everything fenced)

I have some relation who have a patch and the deer don't bother it at all.

But again, I was finding a few chomped on (and then they'd just drop it on the ground!!!) so I decided to protect my investment.

Just didn't have enough to go around......

    Bookmark     July 16, 2013 at 3:54PM
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glib(5.5)

They have chomped my asparagus, many times, in an area with high deer pressure. The only things that do not get eaten are things with thorns, roses, all manners of thistle, brambles, nettles seem to do well,
some small thorny trees (buckthorn I think). I am waiting for the border vegetation to grow, then fence and replant where asparagus has been killed (some of it is alive if stunted). I have also a bed next to my house with 20 asparagus, that goes untouched, but I think it is due to hostas and other tastier plants nearby, and the deer pressure at my house is low.

    Bookmark     July 17, 2013 at 10:33AM
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insteng

The limbs bending over is common and it will not cause any problems.

    Bookmark     July 17, 2013 at 10:03AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

I would not eat the at that over ripe stage. They might even have an off taste besides hardened seeds. COMPOST it.
JMO.

    Bookmark     July 17, 2013 at 12:22AM
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defrost49

I used to love Golden Glow pickles made with over ripe cukes. The seeds are removed and discarded. Sorry, haven't canned in years so I don't have a current recipe.

    Bookmark     July 17, 2013 at 7:11AM
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