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sromkie(9)

Any idea what could be effective? from a Google search all I am finding is "wide spectrum pesticide" which I wouldn't want to use.

    Bookmark   June 26, 2013 at 10:16AM
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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

No chemicals that I know of for home gardeners.

perhaps
- Repeated forays to flick into soapy water
- bag the seed pod clusters

    Bookmark   June 26, 2013 at 3:50PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Look like the 4th Instar stage of Brown Marmorated Stink Bugs.

Dave

    Bookmark   June 26, 2013 at 10:42AM
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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

Not the marmorated guys. Notice the empty egg shells. Those are just-hatched critters.

    Bookmark   June 26, 2013 at 3:46PM
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ltilton

As you as you can enjoy eating it, there's no harm. Most people find it too bitter.

    Bookmark   June 26, 2013 at 3:43PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Once PM develops it remains active as long as the conditions (humidity and air temps) for its growth persist. When those conditions change it begins to slow and appears to die off but the fungus remains dormant on the plant. So it is still there even if you can't see it and eventually it will kill the plant. In the meantime you can harvest from it.

Fungicides only slow it, control it somewhat, they do not cure it. It can be prevented by spraying with fungicides before the fungus attaches to the leaves (so from the day of plant out or seedling emergence), but it can't be cured once it develops.

Leaf removal is no problem as it doesn't stress the plant anymore than it already is stressed by the PM.

Dave

    Bookmark   June 26, 2013 at 1:32PM
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mctiggs(2b (WPG, MB))

Ah, that makes sense. Hopefully the rain will leave us alone for a while.

I'd never considered eating radish greens, somehow the texture seems off-putting. But, I'm willing to try anything. Googling it, it seems they are used a lot in Indan cooking, which I love. Silver lining!

    Bookmark   June 26, 2013 at 12:43PM
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jimster(z7a MA)

You may be surprised at how good radish greens are. I especially like them as an ingredient in soups such as Portuguese kale soup. They are tastier than many other greens. Cooked, texture is a non-issue. I have even found their texture to be fine raw in a salad of mixed greens.

Jim

This post was edited by jimster on Wed, Jun 26, 13 at 14:01

    Bookmark   June 26, 2013 at 1:08PM
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michelliot(z7 ny)

Chances are it's the rain situation here in the northeast. I'm on the island, and I've only hand watered my garden once in the last several weeks and I still had a yellow leaf, drop off issue with my peppers especially. All have rebound to normalcy, but we're do for a few more days involving rain for the rest of the week. Let your beds dry out, if you can, for a while and see the response. Under watering is many times less harmful than too much moisture. And when you do water, try to just water the soil, not the plants themselves.

AAAAAAAAAnd, a picture is always the best way to transmit your gardening issues to the forum.

Best of luck and be well..................elliot

    Bookmark   June 26, 2013 at 8:38AM
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pmcaddis

Thanks. Too much water would make sense. Forecast is for a long stretch of hot, dry weather so I guess we'll see if that helps.

    Bookmark   June 26, 2013 at 12:57PM
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sromkie(9)

Wow. That all looks really great--especially your broccoli. I love the cages you have in the back for your cukes. They look really and organized. Are the holes big enough to reach your hand through for any fruit that sets inside the cages?

    Bookmark   June 26, 2013 at 11:58AM
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Fishrayne(5)

Thank you for the quick and thorough response!! Do you think it would be worth the trouble of getting a different mix, and transplanting these plants, or should I just leave them be for this season, and water less often, and use something different next year? They seem to be growing well, and I just noticed small buds on them yesterday.

    Bookmark   June 25, 2013 at 9:10AM
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Fishrayne(5)

BTW, I didn't realize there is a specific container gardening forum, I will go check things out over there. Thanks!

    Bookmark   June 26, 2013 at 11:54AM
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nc_crn

Yeah, pod variation like that is generally genetics or environmental conditions at the time of pollination (or a combo of both).

    Bookmark   June 25, 2013 at 8:06PM
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AiliDeSpain(6a - Utah)

I see....thank you Dave and nc-crn.

    Bookmark   June 26, 2013 at 11:06AM
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glib(5.5)

Stunting is a symptom of black walnut poisoning. First off, is this a black walnut? If it is an english walnut, it can not be the culprit. The leaves are very different, english having the same leaf as a hickory, large and smooth-edged, black having smaller, serrated leaves.

Assuming it is, what happened is that the tree sensed the good compost in those beds and eventually sent a root there. Every tree does that. It was not there in years past, but it is now. Dig a trench on the bed side facing the tree, find the root, and cut it. The roots are also black on the outside, and they should be fairly superficial. In fact, the farther back from the bed you can cut the root, the fewer these interventions over the years.

It will take some time for the juglone to dissipate. Unfinished compost, buried in the bed, will speed things up (not the sterile finished, the smelly, fermenting one, all crawling with worms). You can plant carrots, beets or chard, they will make it, and give you a crop in the Fall. Even they will not grow as much as they could, juglone is a nasty compound.

    Bookmark   June 25, 2013 at 11:04PM
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bananastand

Thank you for the advice. It is a black walnut. How deep is "superficial" for root depth? Are we talking less than 6 inches?

    Bookmark   June 26, 2013 at 10:32AM
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annanc14

Here is my cucumber plant.

    Bookmark   June 26, 2013 at 9:20AM
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sunwyn(z6aoh)

looks like horse nettle to me. If the fruit turns yellow I'd definitely say horse nettle.

    Bookmark   June 26, 2013 at 8:28AM
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edweather(Zone 5a/b Central NY)

I would plant practically anything you want to. With all the crazy weather this year, my neighbor just planted his garden a few days ago.

    Bookmark   June 25, 2013 at 9:39PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

I would practically plant any thing that that does not require the fruits to fully ripen.

Another issue is that , zone numbers have very little significance when it comes to summer gardening. More important than zone number, is the temperature pattern and the average first frost date.

Therefore, for example, you can plant summer squash, cukes (no melons , no winter squash, no eggplants..), basils, small fruited peppers.

    Bookmark   June 26, 2013 at 2:21AM
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wayne_5 zone 6a Central Indiana

Are we talking mainly about raw peas or cooked peas. My sugar snaps are quite tasty raw and tasty is properly cooked/seasoned.

    Bookmark   June 25, 2013 at 12:40PM
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dottyinduncan(z8b coastal BC)

Weather has been cool and overcast, not a lot of rain or sun. I am eating them raw but boy are they disappointing!

    Bookmark   June 25, 2013 at 11:22PM
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edmontongarden

Thanks For Everybody's Help

I Googled "cabbage root maggot" and I got this Wikipedia page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delia_radicum

This is exactly what is affecting the plants.

I buried the stems roots with more soil.

    Bookmark   June 25, 2013 at 8:57PM
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Mark(Oregon, Zone 8)

The only way i've been able to avoid them is to keep susceptible brassicas under floating row cover. I have to do this for all my napa cabbage in the fall or they all go downhill just like your broccoli. Good luck

    Bookmark   June 25, 2013 at 10:38PM
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