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2ajsmama

Don't know how close UCONN ext is to you/her, and what they charge, but state CAES lab has offices in Windsor and the main plant pathology lab in New Haven. They won't charge anything to look at it, you can call to see if pathologist is in the office today and can even get answer on the spot if you bring it in while he/she is there

Here is a link that might be useful: CAES Plant Disease page

    Bookmark     July 9, 2013 at 12:11PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

As I mentioned above there is a simple test you can do for fusarium - slice open part of the stem lengthwise. Brown pith, sometimes gooey, inside the stem is a definitive diagnosis. Pics of the appearance of the infected pith are available online for comparison if needed.

Dave

    Bookmark     July 9, 2013 at 5:24PM
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sandpapertongue(7a VA)

I'm sorry. It almost sounds like the landscaper put some herbicide in the soil. As for a soil test, I got one from my local farmers market. There is a booth with advice from master gardener and they issue soil tests from the local university. You just mail in the dirt in the cardboard sample box, and you pay $10. Maybe you have something like that around you?

    Bookmark     July 9, 2013 at 3:30PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

I can't think why having it landscaped should affect the garden parts. Is it possible to contact the landscaper and ask for input as to what specifically was done?

But it does sound as if a soil test is needed and they are available from your local county ag extension office for $10-15. You don't indicate your location or even your garden zone in your post (box provided for that info) or I would provide you a direct link to them. Not to mention having that info is important in answering any question. Your garden could easily have a build up of salts, low nitrogen, excess phosphorous, etc. and only a professional soil test will tell you that.

It is very possible that the garden problems may only be coincidentally related to the landscaping. There have been increasing reports of herbicide contaminated compost and manures. So if those additives were brought in from the outside that is a real possibility.

Plus since the landscaping was done have you been using a lawn service of any kind? If so them you need details on exactly what things they have been using in the area. Check with neighbors too as herbicide drift from as much as a 1/2 mile away can easily affect garden crops.

Hope this helps.

Dave

    Bookmark     July 9, 2013 at 5:18PM
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andy32844

i grabbed some Burpee early choice hybrid that supposed to be only 66 days to maturity. Got some sprouting on the paper towel im gonna plant and see what happens. Then just direct sow the rest. i also have about 20 or so 6 gallon pails in the garage i might try and give it a go. all ive got for free so i dont have anything to lose. Next year part of the soybean field in the background is probably gonna sweet corn.

    Bookmark     July 9, 2013 at 2:46PM
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wayne_5 zone 6a Central Indiana

I think that extra early varieties of corn tend to be disappointing.

    Bookmark     July 9, 2013 at 4:06PM
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florauk(8/9)

I have to say I've never been able to detect much smell from Woodruff myself. When dried it has a sweetish hay scent.

It gets mixed reviews. Some view it as a garden thug and others as a useful groundcover for shady places. BTW it is not Cleavers or Lady's Bedstraw, both in the same family but looking different in the leaves.

    Bookmark     July 9, 2013 at 1:32PM
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jimster(z7a MA)

A rampant, invasive grower. To me, it's a noxious weed.

Jim

    Bookmark     July 9, 2013 at 2:43PM
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lm13(7)

This looks great!! Hope you have a successful season!

    Bookmark     July 4, 2013 at 9:25PM
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GreenThumb85(6b Illinois)

I am very jealous lol! Have a good season!

    Bookmark     July 9, 2013 at 8:52AM
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soilent_green

neptune24 - glad you got your questions and concerns answered. :)

It is very interesting and educational hearing of all the different experiences with the same plant variety around the continent - this is why I like the discussions on GW.

I should clarify: I stated previously that they will store "quite well". This is a judgment call. For me, once hardened and cured, these first year bulbs harvested in July or August regularly store into December and often January. I consider that a pretty decent storage length but that is obviously not as long as standard storage onion varieties. I am not surprised that people have varying levels of success. I think the main point is that these onions should be eaten and enjoyed fresh - there are better onions for storing.

For me the topsets harvested in September usually store well into May of the next year. I store the topset clusters whole, not separated, in the open air in a cool (40-45 degrees) dark place. The reason that I store them is so I can use them in cooking during the winter months. Some years I will plant a bunch of them in early spring.

I guess maybe the only thing I may do differently regarding storage is that I leave the tops on. They never fully dry down but the curing does harden them nicely. As any other storage vegetable I check for and chuck the soft or spoiling ones on a consistent basis.

I just like to tinker with doing different things with these onions. My regular onions are always my priority crop for fresh eating and storage. My favorite use of winter onions is as a fresh spring onion - a tradition my father started back in the early 1970s. He absolutely loved them.

I have never tried dehydrating them - I think that is a good idea and will attempt to dry a batch shortly (outside!) after the basil is done. I bet minced, flaked, and powdered would be quite good. I will try to remember to post results here.

pnbrown - I would like to take you up on your offer of topsets and will be contacting you shortly. I would like to see how similar or different your plants are from mine. If you want to trade topsets, I would be happy to do that but mine will not be mature until September.

    Bookmark     July 26, 2012 at 11:26AM
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hepatica_z7

It works! Thanks Zeedman, for your suggestion to separate clumps of small onions and replanted them at about 3" spacing. I also removed topsets as they formed. I just pulled some very usable sized onions, maybe 1 1/2" diameter.

I did mine in very early spring, but I will try it in fall too.

The flavor is great when they are used chopped and sauteed in many dishes, and as mentioned, they make an excellent broth. For that, I even use woody bits and the tops, and brown them before adding water and simmering for 30 minutes or so. I strain out all the stringy stuff and voila!

Hepatica

    Bookmark     July 9, 2013 at 7:31AM
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rhizo_1 (North AL) zone 7

Aphids. They can be rinsed off and/or smushed. They multiply rapidly so you'll need to keep after them frequently.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2013 at 7:16PM
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GreenThumb85(6b Illinois)

Aphids for sure!

    Bookmark     July 9, 2013 at 7:22AM
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djkj(9b)

Thanks folks :)

gsweater - No rain here, its actually very hot in SoCal. These insects do not seem to harm the plant - look more like fruit flies to me LOL

Have a great day!

    Bookmark     July 8, 2013 at 11:29PM
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GreenThumb85(6b Illinois)

Not harmful or beneficial but they are either fruit flies or gnats

    Bookmark     July 9, 2013 at 7:18AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Hybrid is just another name for cross pollination but in a controlled and designed fashion to obtain certain characteristics. So the hybrid, if it is not full established, the seeds/plants from it might go after one of its parents. It is so obvious the hybridizer cross some of tha best plants not trashy ones.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2013 at 10:40PM
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elisa_z5

I've gotten excellent kale, lettuce, arugula and mustard greens from the compost bin.

But when it comes to squash family, I turn them under. Squash is promiscuous, in that it normally cross pollinates when given a chance, and so you roll the dice as to whether you'll get something good or something inedible. (I've grown the most bitter cantaloupe EVER in the compost).

So the question is, with squash and melons, do you want to give garden space, time, labor and resources to something that might be great, but might not be?

Since they're already flowering, sounds like it's worth the experiment to see if what they produce tastes good. If yes, then great. If not, then rip them out and plant fall greens :)

This post was edited by elisa_Z5 on Tue, Jul 9, 13 at 12:23

    Bookmark     July 8, 2013 at 11:37PM
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JWW_1(8B / 9A Foley, AL)

Courtney that fact that the block of bush beans would create its own shade is a great point. I appreciate your advice.

Do you grow any beans to harvest as dry?

    Bookmark     July 8, 2013 at 8:51PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

You analysis is correct. But there might be difference in yield between pole and bush beans. THE BEAN WHIZs maybe able to answer that question.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2013 at 10:48PM
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thebutcher(6b (Philadelphia area))

Thanks a bunch for all your help again Dave :) I was scared and imediatley checked the plants the past couple of hours knowing what they did to my family and friends plant. At least 20 of them on 4 plants of my brother and neighbors plants.

- Mr Beno

    Bookmark     July 8, 2013 at 8:48PM
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CaraRose

Looks like a butterfly in the skipper family. I'd guess a duskywing, but not sure of any that have blue spots on the wings.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2013 at 8:59PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Do you I have to scrap all that fruit?

Have too? No, but most find that fruit with BER tastes "off". Some argue you can cut out the bad part and eat the rest but the bacteria infection in the area normally doesn't make eating it worthwhile.

Was this caused by lack of water? Or is it something else?

That is all explained in the links I posted for you above. Basically it is caused by a poor distribution of calcium throughout the plant as it develops. The transportation of calcium is totally dependent maintaining consistent soil moisture levels throughout the fruit development stages. In containers, especially small containers, that is very difficult to do. There are other contributing factors too - all discussed in the links provided.

Apply some lime around the plants, and water it in thoroughly. See the link.

Sorry but all the studies show that applying lime AFTER the problem develops does not help because lime is so slow acing. Applying it, if needed, BEFORE planting can help.

Again this is all discussed in great detail over on the correct forum - Growing Tomatoes.

Dave

    Bookmark     July 8, 2013 at 6:25PM
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donna_in_sask

The paste type tomatoes seem to be more prone to BER too, I believe.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2013 at 6:30PM
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Java924

I live in Zone 7 Central VA - what are chances of success with growing artichokes and when should they be started?

    Bookmark     March 22, 2013 at 4:34PM
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uscjusto

No one has mentioned the fertlizer requirements for artichokes during the growing season.
I read that you should provide nitrogen. Anyone know if that's correct?

I want to grow asparagus near my artichokes but heavy nitrogen around asparagus is bad as it encourages foliage and not spears. Dilemmas.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2013 at 4:41PM
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mommomsgarden(6/Jersey Girl!)

It's melon. Sorry

    Bookmark     July 8, 2013 at 4:19PM
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edweather(Zone 5a/b Central NY)

Probably a male flower. Males appear first.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2013 at 4:23PM
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Tomato leavesAnyone know what's happened to my tomato leaves? Looks burnt!
Posted by mommomsgarden(6/Jersey Girl!) July 8, 2013
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mommomsgarden(6/Jersey Girl!)

The flowers as well look shriveled!

    Bookmark     July 8, 2013 at 3:18PM
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edweather(Zone 5a/b Central NY)

Your plants look ok. Just normal growth issues.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2013 at 4:21PM
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