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kalindi615

I want to thank everyone again for the great input and advice. It is nice to see that people are still finding this post. Hubby and I have read through everyone's experiences, read around the web, and looked into different materials. We have also tried to figure out what is most important to us when it comes to the ability to take down and re-put up every year to enable easy tilling, also another issue for us is ease of mowing around. We have a yard that takes 2 hours to mow anyway and HATE to have to pull out a weed whacker so we were trying to come up with something to deal with that also.

I think we have a plan!!!

We are currently in the building processes right now. As a matter of fact I am taking a break to feed kids as I type this. I am taking detailed pics the whole way and we hope to have it complete (mostly anyway) by the end of the week, maybe two weeks as I am traveling. I will post as soon as we are done and hopefully ad to this for anyone else looking for advice in building a better fence for the future.

Thanks again for everyone's help. It was great! I am so excited about my new fence!

    Bookmark     June 1, 2013 at 5:36PM
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kalindi615

Hey everyone. I promised pics of the plan I came up with and we have finally finished. I started another thread and will link below, but wanted to say thank you to everyone for all your help and advice. I know it is now July and I am just officially finished with this so it wont be the garden of my dreams this year, but my fall garden will be spectacular and I am well on my way next year.

So thank you all again, you are greatly appreciated.

Here is a link that might be useful: New Fence

    Bookmark     July 2, 2013 at 8:16PM
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gardenlen(s/e qld aust)

maybe next season try just sticking them on top of the soil with good application of gypsum, that's all we do never had much success growing them in containers.

len

Here is a link that might be useful: lens instant potato patch

    Bookmark     June 30, 2013 at 4:32PM
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chuckj5947

Thank You all for your advice. I have a couple of options this year. Next year I try and set up an area to grow outside the container.

    Bookmark     July 2, 2013 at 7:59PM
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pkramer60

Success!!!! Two sprayings, 3 days apart and the white flies are history. Of the 5 plants impacted only one did not make it. The others are recovering and sending up blossoms.

    Bookmark     July 2, 2013 at 4:14PM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

I doubt that you're done from my experiences. keep up with the spraying once a week for another 2-3 weeks and then see where you're at. Anybody that says they got rid of whiteflies with just TWO sprayings and that's it didn't have whiteflies in the first place IMO. They are one of the toughest to deal with.

Congrats so far.

kevin

    Bookmark     July 2, 2013 at 7:20PM
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jaceysgranny(7aAR)

Yes, when they dry up there will be pinhead size tomatoes under them.

    Bookmark     July 2, 2013 at 6:58PM
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ltilton

Considering other possibilities - New, do you have yellow&black striped beetles in your cukes? The fact that one plant is wilting and the others aren't, which were presumably sprayed with the same solution, is suggestive of bacterial wilt.

Here, it would be early for that, but your plant sure looks like it. If you cut off a leaf, hold your finger to the cut place then pull it slowly away, the sap from a plant afflicted with bw will pull away like a thin strand of gum.

    Bookmark     July 2, 2013 at 12:00PM
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Newatthis22

Well, it demolished one entire plant and only affected 1/3 of the bigger more established plants.

And no beetles of any kind. I check very often for pests.

    Bookmark     July 2, 2013 at 6:42PM
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catherinet(5 IN)

Our fence is only 4' high, but I think what keeps the deer out of ours is the fact that the whole thing (about 20x30') is filled with trellises and wire cages.
The wires on top are a good idea Kali. And like you said, just make sure you put something on them (some sort of tape, etc.) so the deer can see them.........or you might end up with a deer stuck in your fence! :(

    Bookmark     July 2, 2013 at 1:30PM
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insteng

I've been lucky the deer have left my garden alone. They get in and go to the back where I don't have anything planted and bed down. They seem to feel safe back there and they haven't bothered any of my plants. They seem to prefer the coastal grass I have growing around the garden.

    Bookmark     July 2, 2013 at 2:45PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Sorry but they could be any number of things. Without seeing them there is no way to even get in a ballpark guess other than some sort of fly larvae.

Plus knowing where you live or at least your gardening zone would help narrow down the possibilities a little bit.

But whatever they are just dump the soil out on a tarp or plastic, spread it out and let it dry well in the sun for several days, stirring it now and then. That will kill most if not all of them as they need moisture to survive.

Dave

    Bookmark     July 2, 2013 at 11:46AM
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punchinker

Thanks Dave - I'd thought that sun might do it......

If it ever stops raining, will break out the tarp.

Much appreciated.

    Bookmark     July 2, 2013 at 2:41PM
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ericengelmann(7)

Unless your fence is very good, I'll guess it's a rabbit (young ones can squeeze through a very small hole, and they look long and hard to find one).

    Bookmark     July 2, 2013 at 11:02AM
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clairabelle(z4 Quebec)

LOL The only fence I have is... a 16-ft cedar hedge, but we do live across the street from a large wooded area and I HAVE seen deer, but they've not crossed the street because the neighbour's garden is bigger than mine and it's right next to the river so...

I HAVE gone out at night w/flashlight, as I sometimes do to check on my hostas, but have not seen any slugs. The beds are raised beds as well.

So I'll go with your bunny theory, although I and my neighbours have never seen any, and there are plenty of cats out at night. Thanks so much for your input.
I'm glad to hear the plants will survive despite the early chomping from da monstah from da black lagoon... :D
Happy gardening!

    Bookmark     July 2, 2013 at 2:38PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

You may get a few but usually it is just the plant top with no potatoes. And if you do get a few many times they aren't edible. They tend to be hard as rocks and very small.

Just curious why you left them? If you don't want to eat them then store them for a fall planting in your zone.

Dave

    Bookmark     July 2, 2013 at 11:56AM
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ericengelmann(7)

Get some hardware cloth with 1/4" holes, attach it to a 2x4 frame, and dig and screen the carrot section of your bed to 14", adding fine organic matter to loosen clay soil. Once I did that, my carrots looked perfect (but only tasted just a little bit better).

    Bookmark     July 2, 2013 at 11:13AM
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ltilton

I add some sand, too. Keeps the bed from settling quite so much.

    Bookmark     July 2, 2013 at 11:54AM
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insteng

"Do you happen to know how or if these could be cooked on the bbq?"

Slice them and coat them with olive oil and grill them.

    Bookmark     July 2, 2013 at 11:49AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Hundreds of ways to use them available on the web. Just Google summer squash recipes. And yes, they can be cut in half length-wise, brushed with butter and garlic and lightly grilled just until fork tender.

Dave

This post was edited by digdirt on Tue, Jul 2, 13 at 11:51

    Bookmark     July 2, 2013 at 11:50AM
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lkzz(7b)

I just pulled mine because of Squash Vine Borers BUT I have planted a new crop because the zone I am in (7b, Upstate South Carolina) has a long enough season to do so. I will admit, this was not a good year for squash for me - last year was much more prolific even though SVB's finally did the plants in.

You are right about too close...these plants can get quite large and do need good air circulation.They do get thick bottom stems and if you are concerned that they are too shallowly rooted you can cover the bottom stems with some more dirt to anchor them better. The buried stems should root.

Here is a link that might be useful: Powdery Mildew Control (Organic)

    Bookmark     July 1, 2013 at 5:24PM
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spookypaws

Thanks I did end up pulling them up and I am just going to be planting one of each to get me through the rest of the season, because of space. Next year though, I'll expand and make sure to start them farther apart.

    Bookmark     July 2, 2013 at 11:37AM
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christyanne926

I am by no means one of the experienced voices on this forum, so please take everything with a hefty dose of salt, but this sounds similar to my situation. I rent, and the landlord wouldn't be happy with a yard dug up for an inground garden, but is ok with me planting in between the established landscaping and containers. So in between the bushes (2 large ugly things, and 1 rose bush with a good amount of room between them), I put down top soil and compost, and then dug into my new layers of soil to plant. I've grown zucchini which were perfectly happy, and vining squash (butternut, acorn, spaghetti). Last year, the spaghetti squash managed to climb one of the bushes before I caught it, and everything still seemed to happily coexist. I also let the vines go out on the bit of lawn, and put some soil over the vines in places, so that might help. I also managed to train peas up the bushes this spring, but they got knocked down in the really nasty storm a week or so ago. Hope this helps, and good luck!

    Bookmark     July 2, 2013 at 9:05AM
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dowbright(z6 in Missouri)

Every single message is helpful. Wow, I love GardenWeb! I read in depth online, but honestly, more often than not, my questions are better answered here than in all the articles I can find on a given subject.

My bushes won't grow any larger, because I won't let them. But yes, we do have to clip a few times a season. Personally, I'd be happy to get rid of them, but they do look nice in the yard. And my pseudo-husband is wild about them.

Anything I do will be by hand. It's truly a small area.

My grateful thanks to all, and I welcome any further ideas.

    Bookmark     July 2, 2013 at 11:20AM
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dog_wood_2010(7)

Hi, this happened to me with my Sungolds. However, only the first few blossoms fell off. Now they are setting fruit by the gazillions. Hot night temps will cause blossoms to drop. It also helps if your tomato plants are in a breezy, windy location. Bees also certainly help. I have a few sunflowers growing nearby that keep the bees coming in droves. They are all over my tomato plants all day long. That's why I have gazillions and gazillions of tomatoes and will be feeding the neighborhood. Oh and they are great for breakfast sauteed in bacon grease alongside ham and eggs. yum!

    Bookmark     July 2, 2013 at 10:14AM
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MzTeaze(6a)

To the OP,
I am in the same zone and state. My romas have baby tomatoes but the beefsteaks only have flowers. I have seen at least one bumblebee around the flowers, so I know pollination is happening. I'm just thinking that beefsteaks are a bit more finicky than romas.

Could be the same with your cherry tomatoes. You could check with your county extension office. I finally figured out to reach the office for Bergen county. They even have a walk-in office in Hackensack which is available M to F from 10 am to 2 pm for help.

    Bookmark     July 2, 2013 at 10:46AM
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joel_bc(z6 BC)

stuffradio, "Are you more in Hope, Prince George, Kamloops, on the Island? Which part of BC are you in?"

I'm two mountain chains west of the Rockies, between Trail (or Castlegar) and Nakusp - not too far up from the U.S. border.

    Bookmark     July 2, 2013 at 2:38AM
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stuffradio

I guess that means you're pretty much right beside the border of BC and Alberta. I do know SE BC was getting hammered with rain. That's why I wanted to know.

    Bookmark     July 2, 2013 at 10:09AM
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