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Hybrid is just another name for cross pollination but in a controlled and designed fashion to obtain certain characteristics. So the hybrid, if it is not full established, the seeds/plants from it might go after one of its parents. It is so obvious the hybridizer cross some of tha best plants not trashy ones.

I've gotten excellent kale, lettuce, arugula and mustard greens from the compost bin.
But when it comes to squash family, I turn them under. Squash is promiscuous, in that it normally cross pollinates when given a chance, and so you roll the dice as to whether you'll get something good or something inedible. (I've grown the most bitter cantaloupe EVER in the compost).
So the question is, with squash and melons, do you want to give garden space, time, labor and resources to something that might be great, but might not be?
Since they're already flowering, sounds like it's worth the experiment to see if what they produce tastes good. If yes, then great. If not, then rip them out and plant fall greens :)
This post was edited by elisa_Z5 on Tue, Jul 9, 13 at 12:23


Thanks a bunch for all your help again Dave :) I was scared and imediatley checked the plants the past couple of hours knowing what they did to my family and friends plant. At least 20 of them on 4 plants of my brother and neighbors plants.
- Mr Beno

Do you I have to scrap all that fruit?
Have too? No, but most find that fruit with BER tastes "off". Some argue you can cut out the bad part and eat the rest but the bacteria infection in the area normally doesn't make eating it worthwhile.
Was this caused by lack of water? Or is it something else?
That is all explained in the links I posted for you above. Basically it is caused by a poor distribution of calcium throughout the plant as it develops. The transportation of calcium is totally dependent maintaining consistent soil moisture levels throughout the fruit development stages. In containers, especially small containers, that is very difficult to do. There are other contributing factors too - all discussed in the links provided.
Apply some lime around the plants, and water it in thoroughly. See the link.
Sorry but all the studies show that applying lime AFTER the problem develops does not help because lime is so slow acing. Applying it, if needed, BEFORE planting can help.
Again this is all discussed in great detail over on the correct forum - Growing Tomatoes.
Dave


No one has mentioned the fertlizer requirements for artichokes during the growing season.
I read that you should provide nitrogen. Anyone know if that's correct?
I want to grow asparagus near my artichokes but heavy nitrogen around asparagus is bad as it encourages foliage and not spears. Dilemmas.

Good deal Kosch. You may want to hold off on the calmag for now for those in the ground. Most "dirt" contains enough. Only add it if you see your plants needing it.
Looks like a lot of posters are swaying towards herbicide damage. Good luck with nursing it back to health.
Kevin

Regarding your specific question on suckering, the point of removing suckers on indeterminate tomatoes when you have a lot of tomato plants is to increase productivity per unit area, by forcing plants vertically upward. However, it decreases yields on a per-plant basis even for a healthy plant, not to mention stressed plants. I do not sucker any container-grown tomatoes. More suckers = more tomatoes.
Another reason to sucker is encourage air flow and decrease the risk of fungal infections, but again, this is not necessary when you're dealing with just one plant, or if you don't live in a humid climate.
This post was edited by Slimy_Okra on Mon, Jul 8, 13 at 16:16

I do not think that smell of whole garlic ,outside, in the garden , can penetrate into the house through the foundation walls, ... to the point of becoming offensive. People keep garlic in their kitchen(along with onions) all the time. The smell is released when the clove is cut or crushed.

I agree with florauk. It don't think what you have is the type of garlic you get at the store. Especially because you say it disappeared for a few years then came back. It sounds like an allium that reproduces by seed and those dormant seeds are what sprouted and grew. A picture would certainly help.
Rodney
This post was edited by theforgottenone1013 on Mon, Jul 8, 13 at 16:01

Right now is perfect for starting fast-maturing broccoli and cabbage in Z 6. I've had excellent results with Alcosa savoy, Pixie, Gonzales and a little pointed cabbage, Caraflex, don't see why Earliana wouldn't be fine. I start collards and kale two weeks after the cabbage and broccoli. Forget about the days to maturity, or add 21 days for starters due to shortening photoperiod, then more for inclement weather.


Pnbrown, that's a very nice summary of this discussion. There's a lot more to gardening strategy than a couple of numbers. I would just add that the usefulness of such zones, in the context of this forum, is just to roughly understand who we're talking with, and whether we're using words like "heat" in the same way. So those zone numbers in the profile are less about gardening and more about the person who is posting.
Seysonn, I like your idea about how to code the zone in the forum profile. I've done the same with mine.




Aphids. They can be rinsed off and/or smushed. They multiply rapidly so you'll need to keep after them frequently.
Aphids for sure!