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mrdoitall(7)

You can use coffee grounds. They don't have to be fresh. If you need a lot just stop by a starbucks shop and ask them for old coffee grounds. That will take care of the slug problem. It want kill them but they want cross over it to get to the plants.

    Bookmark     June 19, 2013 at 2:46AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

I am working on a formula:

= two parts coffee grounds(used)
= two pars sand(I have some paver san. Play sand will do too)
= two parts saw dust
= less than half part table salt(spice it up..haha)
(thinking about some fine ground chili. but I have to do a clinical test on the subject..heeehaa)
= half a part fresh coffee grounds(for more power)
= one part Epson salt
= one part any slugo type thing.

Yesterday two slugs crossed over and were killed. They managed to run away but coul not go far and died of their wounds. With 100% Get - BUGA, the manage to run away, leavin a trace . But with this formula they die or are half dead nearby.
My experiment is ongoing and not conclusive yet. The good thing about it is that I can use it more generously, because other than GET BUGA the rest don't cost much.

    Bookmark     June 19, 2013 at 5:23AM
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susanzone5(z5NY)

Sluggo with spinosad has extra stuff to kill a lot of harmless soil critters. Stick to plain Sluggo which kills only the slugs and really works. I sprinkle it under leaves and around the perimeter of my garden. I've never had a problem with pillbugs. They digest the mulch I put down and never harm my plants. They are not insects, they are crustaceans. Slugs are the bad guys!

    Bookmark     June 18, 2013 at 7:28PM
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William.G

I just went out and purchased some Bayer Natria slug repellent (Iron Phosphate).

I will reply back with how it worked.

    Bookmark     June 18, 2013 at 10:15PM
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girlbug2(z9/10, Sunset zone 24)

Here's my garden.

Muskmelons in the near bed, tomatoes behind them.

To the right are sweet peppers and Dragon Tongue bush beans.

To the left are pommegranate "trees".

In the back (you can barely make it out) are the peach tree and boysenberry vines on the ladder thing.

I didn't have a lot of space when I was planning everything, and I made a few mistakes on placing the poms to the south of the veg beds, but it somehow seems to work out anyway:).

    Bookmark     June 18, 2013 at 1:26PM
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insteng

"this is kind of off subject but was wondering why you put a purple martin house next to the garden? I have 3 of them but keep them away so they don't attract them. Just curious."

Purple Martins eat flying insects so you want them around and they will not harm your garden.

    Bookmark     June 18, 2013 at 2:28PM
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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

I haven't grown Diva or Sweet Success but I did grow Lemon one year and they had a great cucumber flavor. Their only drawback was that they were quite seedy.

Rodney

    Bookmark     June 17, 2013 at 4:36PM
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lelia(Northern Cal)

I love lemon cukes! Very refreshing in hot weather, but the skin tends to be bitter, so I peel it. You might get away with leaving the skin on if you pick them first thing in the morning when it's coolest. These are really my favorite cucumber for eating out of hand. I peel, slice and pass them around. I never do that with other cucumbers.

    Bookmark     June 18, 2013 at 1:59PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Those containers in the pic don't look like real half whiskey barrels. They look like the plastic copies of a half barrel and if so then they are much smaller than real half barrel container.

If I am correct then that means less plants in each. Plus you hadn't mentioned that you had the nasturtiums etc. in them as well. So that reduces the number of plants that you asked about originally that can be grown in them even more.

The standard 1/2 whiskey barrel is 27 gallons. The plastic copies come in 2 sizes and are only 15 or 18 gallons.

Dave

    Bookmark     June 18, 2013 at 10:41AM
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christripp

digdirt, yes your right, I'm sorry about not mentioning all the details needed for everyone to offer an opinion. Hard to do so without knowing the full story. I tried to find the wooden ones this year everywhere. I didn't want plastic, as I felt it would heat up too much but, of course, just because I wanted them, they were no where to be seen!!!
I'm not even sure what gallon size these are (Walmart) but I'm betting the smallest.
I have this morning snipped all but one vine per barrel of everything, so I'll be finding out the hard way if they will grow and produce.

    Bookmark     June 18, 2013 at 12:22PM
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The life and death of my watermelon(shared from net)
Posted by ceth_k(11) June 17, 2013
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sromkie(9)

Your dog is adorable. I hope my dog doesn't get this idea. He's been really good about not pulling stuff out of my garden, but it's all pretty new to him (and me).

Good luck with your next watermelon grow!

    Bookmark     June 18, 2013 at 11:28AM
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ceth_k(11)

"There's a lot like it, but this one's mine!"

It is not my dog, sadly. I found this on the net, thought it very funny, and shared it here in the hope of making you laugh.

    Bookmark     June 18, 2013 at 11:59AM
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The Elusive Armenian Snake CucumberSaw this guy staring me down this morning.
Posted by captaininsano (9b/13) Peoria, AZ. June 17, 2013
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mandolls(4)

Thats a fun one! I have tried growing them for the past 4 years and every time I have lost them to some sort of disease or insect. I didn't bother planting them this year.

    Bookmark     June 18, 2013 at 8:03AM
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zeedman Zone 5 Wisconsin

Very crisp, and good flavor. They love the heat too, chiefly due to the fact that they are melons botanically, not true cucumbers. This makes them a good choice for warmer regions... but not so good here in the upper Midwest, especially this year.

    Bookmark     June 18, 2013 at 9:19AM
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mandolls(4)

This is one reason I dont do much direct sowing. If I start seed inside under lights, I can be pretty sure I am not cultivating weeds!.

And Gypsy - no thats not broccoli either.

    Bookmark     June 18, 2013 at 8:14AM
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gypsypitcrew(9)

Thank you, mandolls!

The leaves looked right when it was small but then it just skyrocketed! No more outdoor sowing for me!

Today, the giant falls....

    Bookmark     June 18, 2013 at 9:01AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Fox Farm's Happy Frog tomato dry fertilizer?

Never used it myself but it comes up with good reviews over on the Tomato forum here.

Dave

    Bookmark     June 17, 2013 at 6:06PM
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ltilton

Liquid fert doesn't add that much more water, and it takes up more quickly. I had good results using it on my broccoli, that were going all purple.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2013 at 8:47PM
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hidesertca(8)

Mine look just like that, I dont know what is going on either. i've picked 3 so far but yeah your pictures reminded me of mine.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2013 at 2:09PM
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highlandernorth

Make sure they get enough water especially when it's hot. In fact, feel free to take some of our excessive rain! Also, if they are only 3 feet long I wouldn't be too worried yet. Mine usually don't start really producing til their vines are longer anyway.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2013 at 8:00PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

With that many different varieties growing then seed saving from them would not be recommended.

You can avoid some cross-contamination by bagging blooms and hand pollinating and then saving the seeds from only that particular fruit. There is a FAQ here on how to do it.

Foe example:

Crookneck is a pepto and so is Acorn
Or. Hubbard is a maxima
Butternut is a moschata

So look up each of your specific varieties and find out what family they are in.

Dave

    Bookmark     June 17, 2013 at 10:30AM
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mckenziek(9CA)

What Dave said.

Also, zucchini is C. pepo, too. So it can cross with the crookneck and acorn squash.

I don't know about birdhouse gourds. Do the seed packets say what it is? The only reference I found online mentioned Lagenaria siceraria. If so that won't cross with any of the others on the list.
So I think saving seeds from zuchini, crookneck and acorn is out, unless you want to go to the trouble of isolating the flowers (or at least those flowers you plan to save seeds from) (like Dave said).

Assuming I have the birdhouse gourd species correct, you should be able to save seeds from the Hubbard and Butternut and birdhouse gourd with no special precautions to prevent cross-pollination.

--McKenzie

Here is a link that might be useful: grow birdhouse gourds

    Bookmark     June 17, 2013 at 6:02PM
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archoo16

No, I couldn't find find it again. Am hoping it is one of the beneficial ones. If I spot it again , I will take a better pic.

    Bookmark     June 15, 2013 at 11:00AM
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archoo16

Today I found a brown lace wing larvae on my bell pepper plant. Now I know that is beneficial. May be it was the pupa I found? I crushed some orangey eggs on my leaf surface. Now I think they may have been lady bug eggs :(

Is there a good site to know beneficial insects, their eggs, pupae and larvae by looking at them?

    Bookmark     June 17, 2013 at 5:08PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

But virtually anything that produces edible leaves, stalks, or roots, will produce more with SFG.

Interesting but very broad claim Glib. More than what? A container of the same size as used in the SFG? An in-ground bed? Row planting? Raised beds? Wide-row gardening?

I do some SFG because I have some spaces where beds fit and it works. But there is no way I can grow as much lettuce or spinch or potatoes or carrots or turnips or chard in those beds as i can in my in-ground beds using both row and wide-row planting. Much less produce more.

SFG was never intended to replace other methods of gardening. It is just an alternative method for those who may not have the space, time, need, or ability to to garden in other ways. But it isn't, nor does it claim to be, the one perfect gardening method.

Dave

    Bookmark     June 17, 2013 at 1:37PM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

Uscjusto:

Story: A couple months ago, a gopher ate nearly the whole taproot, but left a small root ball at the base of the plant. I picked up the plant(cage and all), and transplanted it 2 feet over from the gopher hole. After some babying for a couple weeks, it stopped wilting and kept growing. I just picked the first fruit a couple days ago.

Kevin

    Bookmark     June 17, 2013 at 4:19PM
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treehuginghippi

I planted bush beans in between my peas , now that my peas have dyed out I pulled them and I'm still have beans coming from them.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2013 at 1:05AM
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ediej1209(5 N Central OH)

I think if you water your plants really well they might stick around a little longer, but now that it's starting to heat up it might be too late. You really might think about just planting seeds next year as soon as you can get out into your garden. I'm by no means an expert, but I think peas aren't really happy being transplanted.
Our peas are still green and putting out blossoms. I wasn't expecting them to still be around this long... I planted beets in between them and the poor things are about suffocating. Oh, well, I am putting peas by the bagful into the freezer so I am not going to complain!
Good luck with yours - hope you can get them to stick around a bit longer.
Edie

    Bookmark     June 17, 2013 at 2:20PM
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JWW_1(8B / 9A Foley, AL)

Thanks for your help.

Do these things have a name? I like to know what I am about to kill.

What else do they affect? I have my watermelons, cantaloupe, pumpkins, and summer squash in the same raised bed. Do I just broadcast spray the whole bed, or do I spot treat the watermelon?

    Bookmark     June 17, 2013 at 10:46AM
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fruitnut Z7 4500ft SW TX

They are leaf rollers. But there are many caterpillars that do this. Around here I've seen them on many fruits and pecans but so far not on any vegetables. Ours is probably a different species of caterpillar.

It won't hurt to spray anything with BT. It's very safe and will control other caterpillars like tomato hornworm.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2013 at 11:17AM
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