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nc_crn

Yeah, pod variation like that is generally genetics or environmental conditions at the time of pollination (or a combo of both).

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 8:06PM
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AiliDeSpain(6a - Utah)

I see....thank you Dave and nc-crn.

    Bookmark     June 26, 2013 at 11:06AM
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glib(5.5)

Stunting is a symptom of black walnut poisoning. First off, is this a black walnut? If it is an english walnut, it can not be the culprit. The leaves are very different, english having the same leaf as a hickory, large and smooth-edged, black having smaller, serrated leaves.

Assuming it is, what happened is that the tree sensed the good compost in those beds and eventually sent a root there. Every tree does that. It was not there in years past, but it is now. Dig a trench on the bed side facing the tree, find the root, and cut it. The roots are also black on the outside, and they should be fairly superficial. In fact, the farther back from the bed you can cut the root, the fewer these interventions over the years.

It will take some time for the juglone to dissipate. Unfinished compost, buried in the bed, will speed things up (not the sterile finished, the smelly, fermenting one, all crawling with worms). You can plant carrots, beets or chard, they will make it, and give you a crop in the Fall. Even they will not grow as much as they could, juglone is a nasty compound.

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 11:04PM
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bananastand

Thank you for the advice. It is a black walnut. How deep is "superficial" for root depth? Are we talking less than 6 inches?

    Bookmark     June 26, 2013 at 10:32AM
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annanc14

Here is my cucumber plant.

    Bookmark     June 26, 2013 at 9:20AM
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sunwyn(z6aoh)

looks like horse nettle to me. If the fruit turns yellow I'd definitely say horse nettle.

    Bookmark     June 26, 2013 at 8:28AM
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edweather(Zone 5a/b Central NY)

I would plant practically anything you want to. With all the crazy weather this year, my neighbor just planted his garden a few days ago.

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 9:39PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

I would practically plant any thing that that does not require the fruits to fully ripen.

Another issue is that , zone numbers have very little significance when it comes to summer gardening. More important than zone number, is the temperature pattern and the average first frost date.

Therefore, for example, you can plant summer squash, cukes (no melons , no winter squash, no eggplants..), basils, small fruited peppers.

    Bookmark     June 26, 2013 at 2:21AM
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wayne_5 zone 6a Central Indiana

Are we talking mainly about raw peas or cooked peas. My sugar snaps are quite tasty raw and tasty is properly cooked/seasoned.

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 12:40PM
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dottyinduncan(z8b coastal BC)

Weather has been cool and overcast, not a lot of rain or sun. I am eating them raw but boy are they disappointing!

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 11:22PM
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edmontongarden

Thanks For Everybody's Help

I Googled "cabbage root maggot" and I got this Wikipedia page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delia_radicum

This is exactly what is affecting the plants.

I buried the stems roots with more soil.

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 8:57PM
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Mark(Oregon, Zone 8)

The only way i've been able to avoid them is to keep susceptible brassicas under floating row cover. I have to do this for all my napa cabbage in the fall or they all go downhill just like your broccoli. Good luck

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 10:38PM
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Phildeez(9b)

4x10 is 40 square feet and does not consider the depth. How deep are your raised beds?

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 9:18PM
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nugrdnnut(6a n-c WA)

sorry... 1 foot deep, therefore 40 cubic ft

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 9:30PM
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gardenlen(s/e qld aust)

it will all break down and be good nutrient, so long as vege's are washed and cooked for first season all other is pure fear hype, why waste money paying lawyers? never makes sense.

these 'taters are on our septic field:

len

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 4:45PM
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gardenlen(s/e qld aust)

it will all break down and be good nutrient, so long as vege's are washed and cooked for first season all other is pure fear hype, why waste money paying lawyers? never makes sense.

these 'taters are on our septic field:

len

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 4:46PM
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AiliDeSpain(6a - Utah)

Thanks to everyone for their comments and opinions. I did spray the leaves this morning and checked the undersides of the plants. I did not see anything more concerning than what was on the top. I did however see this little guy on one of my pepper plants :)

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 2:43PM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

Nice! Yeah... if you have them, I've noticed that they really show up after a treatment. Possibly to munch on all the corpses. Dunno.

Kevin

This post was edited by woohooman on Tue, Jun 25, 13 at 22:05

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 4:29PM
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sunnibel7 Md 7(7)

I've had baby bunnies get through "chicken wire"... I put that in quotes because real chicken wire has openings that are pretty small and the wire is fairly stiff but you can by hex wire netting at garden centers that has fairly large holes and is made of more flexible wire. It was the latter kind I had the bunnies get through. Bunnies really do love bean plants.

    Bookmark     June 24, 2013 at 5:27PM
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aloha10

A simple partial solution is to simply cover your young bean plants with a floating row cover. If the critters are really hungry, they will get through it easily. But I have found that in most cases, it 's too much work for them and they go to work on the clover in the lawn or other things. Not foolproof but easy and pretty effective. Rabbits don't like the taste of seaweed/fish fertilizers like Neptune's Harvest and others.

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 3:03PM
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MzTeaze(6a)

I noticed that we are in the same zone & area basically. You can come and work in my growing garden. LOL

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 10:20AM
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rpost78(8A)

Well, I am in your same shoes. I'm 30-something and getting more health conscience. I want my gardening to be more strenuous. I hate using the term exercising. I think it brings back too many memories from the Army! LOL Nonetheless, we need to be physical to stay healthy. I have a small garden and what I do is kind of incorporate "exercise" into being in the garden. For example, when I am picking weeds or turning my soil I do squats. Sometimes, I even do a push-up or two right there in my garden. I don't really think about it when I'm in my garden. When I come in I do feel better though! Just a suggestion to get ya active! :o)

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 11:04AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

"I have a small garden (20'x40')..."
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You call 800 sqr-ft a SMALL garden ?

But anyway, welcome and Happy Gardening !

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 3:15AM
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fruitychick(8a)

Welcome!

I'm newish as well. I've been a member/lurker for years in various forums but rarely post. I have a small garden (much smaller than yours)--about 100 square feet between beds and pots.

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 8:06AM
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uscjusto

Does not look like a tree collard to me.

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 1:17AM
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pnbrown

Ok, interesting. I grew the SE version.

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 6:25AM
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ltilton

Plant looks diseased. Not powdery mildew, I don't believe, but maybe downy.

I'd settle for the pumpkin you've got, because it may not be healthy enough to support a new one.

    Bookmark     June 24, 2013 at 5:17PM
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kapt_karrot

Yeah your plant looks diseased some sort of fungal issue looks like maybe blight if so it's in your soil with that being said in your case you could try spraying chlorothanil if its fungal it should kick it in the butt, if blight good luck you could cut out the bad but unlikely it will recover.

    Bookmark     June 24, 2013 at 10:59PM
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