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denninmi(8a)

I can't really see anything I can positively id as an insect in the photo. Those dark things on the stalk above the last leaf at the base of the tassel? Could be some kind of moth, but not enough of a close- up to tell what they are with my relatively poor vision.

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 9:36PM
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crisslyon(8b)

Can't get a close up. They fly off :) but I think I have them identified as glassy winged sharpshooters by someone else..... Which I've never heard of or seen until today. Thanks though.

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 10:49PM
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fern1knits

Do you mean allergic by ingesting them or by contact? I am severely allergic to them by touch and have to cover my skin thoroughly when working in the garden. But if you mean you're allergic to eating them, then I am so sorry. :(

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 3:50PM
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buford(7 NE GA)

I also have nightshade allergy. I had a bad episode as a child and was never allowed to have a raw tomato (but growing up in an Italian home, had lots of tomato sauce or gravy, as we call it). Unfortunately a few years ago, it started to get worse and I can't have eggplant or peppers either. Nightshades have toxins in them that cause problems in some people. I even have a tough time with the tomato plants (my husband loves tomatoes, so I grow them for him) touching the leaves and then touching my face gives me a rash.

I don't know of any low toxin variety. The neurotoxins that are in nightshades are saponins, alkaloids and lectins. Tabacco is also a nightshade and it is some of these toxins that cause inflammation and even cancer. If you are sensitive to it, I suggest you avoid them.

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 10:12PM
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mandolls(4)

First year gardens are so exciting. I wish you continued success and a bountiful harvest. Warning - its addictive. My first year was a 12x12 foot plot, 4 years later and It has taken over much of my yard

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 7:37AM
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cb-garden(6b heatzone 7 Perry county tn)

My new tomato trellis

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 7:37PM
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Last oneSorry, I haven't figured out how to post multiple pictures.
Posted by shermthewerm(8 PNW) June 20, 2013
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newyorkrita(z6b/7a LI NY)

I noticed the lack of weeds, one of the reasons it looks so neat and tidy. What a great idea to cover that pergola and make it a chicken run.

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 1:58PM
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bcskye

That is one beautiful garden and I wish mine looked that way. However, I have plenty of weeds for the both of us.

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 6:04PM
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Slimy_Okra(2b)

They root very quickly if the water is warm (80 to 90 degrees). Use a heat mat to speed rooting. Avoid exposure to sunlight until they have rooted.

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 1:22PM
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julia42(9a)

Hey! Thanks everyone. Jay, that's very kind of you to offer to send me some, but I put a couple of cuttings in a glass of water yesterday and I can already see root nubs starting to poke out, so I think I'm probably good. I appreciate your "gardener's generosity", though.

Looking forward to some sweet potatoes in September or so...

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 2:39PM
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ltilton

You're right. Charentais has no webbing and that's not a Charentais.

You should have Words with Peaceful Valley.

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 2:19PM
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FuzzyPete(8b)

Hmm... Ok, I'll give it a good water tomorrow and throw some mulch around them and see what happens... I'm getting a little worried about the sole survivor of this one type of pumpkin... Its' leaves are getting more splotchy... I didn't think it was something like temps or soil because other pumpkin varieties in the same bed seemed to be doing well... I have a different bed near with some zucchini in it and they have been out growing everything (except some peas, perhaps)... but, it gets a bit different sun overall...

The bed is a foot tall , but i dug an extra 1/2 - 1' deep in the ground.. It is a new bed this year... I put a soil/compost mix in as I did in my other bed (last year) with the local nursery recommended amounts..

    Bookmark     June 20, 2013 at 1:52AM
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FuzzyPete(8b)

Well, i chose not to mulch because we were forecast to have a lot of rain and cooler temps roll through today before sun and warming tomorrow.. I figured it would not be a great idea to mulch and lock in cool/damp soil... (i could be overthinking all of this)

However, today, I looked at this plant again and noticed the following with its' new growth... it doesn't look healthy, but I cannot figure out if it looks like it was eaten or wilted. I am looking for pests under leaves and such....

One reason i have not been thinking something "global" like soil nutrients or temps was the first plant that up and died... It seemed to shrivel up and die all alone with only minor issues with the other plants around it.

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 1:39PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

It would be very likely that they would go to seed, if you had not pulled them. Any over wintered onion(full size) will flower eventually, given enough time.

Another thing is that some onions are compound inside. When you cut them you'll see two (or more)hearts. I think in the wild nature onions also multiply. Isn't that another way to MULTIPLY? :D

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 4:10AM
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vanisle_bc

madroneb & seysonn: I haven't done a "lift & separate" yet but I will do that & grow them out. Probably end up with enough seed to cover the planet. I'll try to remember to make a follow-up post when the results become clear.

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 12:22PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Agree that the odds they are actually cabbage loopers on tomato plants is slim. But dusting with Bt is effective on all eating caterpillars.

Dave

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 10:25AM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

Here in Socal, it doesn't matter what I plant -- once it warms up some, it's looper haven. Of course, I'm sure it doesn't help that I grow brassicas into and through the summer.

Kevin

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 12:02PM
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uscjusto

I had a slug problem. Sluggo fixed it quickly!

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 1:22AM
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sunnibel7 Md 7(7)

Iron phosphate pellets, sluggo is one brand name. In your case, I suspect they are hiding under the pots during the day, but basically they live everywhere in little pockets of moist plant decay. Very helpful in nature, a bit destructive when they get into gardens in large numbers.

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 9:20AM
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sunnibel7 Md 7(7)

Lovely! I just had a nice salad of storebought grapefruit and homegrown romaine, sweet onion and tarragon with a oil and vinegar dressing. But the oil was hazelnut and the vinegar was homemade tarragon vinegar. Garden food is the best.

    Bookmark     June 20, 2013 at 8:54PM
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mandolls(4)

Yummy! I havent harvested anything but lettuce and cilantro yet, and not much of that.

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 7:42AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Post pictures , it you will. I am sure somebody will help you to clarify your question.

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 3:58AM
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nickrosesn

This was Sweet Corn Buttergold. I did ask about yellowing leaves back in April.

    Bookmark     June 19, 2013 at 10:23PM
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n2xjk

Buttergold is an SE type, so assuming you want to stick with other SEs, varieties I've grown with good results, these all reach at least 6':
Delectable
Bodacious
Bi-Licious
Bon Jour

A variety I've had poor results with is Early & Often (despite being an SE type, had boring flavor and wasn't particularly sweet).

A variety I've had variable results with is Ruby Queen. Probably depends what you use as a pollinator (the package recommends using another SE to pollinate it; I've never grown RQ by itself)

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 12:24AM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

I like the bamboo(?) U's. A little more decorative than the plain old tomato cages. I think I'd use them for eggplant and tomatillas, maybe peppers if they get too heavy. Where did you find these? Nancy

    Bookmark     June 20, 2013 at 8:28PM
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shermthewerm(8 PNW)

Nancy, not sure about using them for tomatillos, but the bamboo hoops are fine for peppers & eggplant. I got these at our farm store Wilco & at Fred Meyer (Kroger's). You probably don't have either of these stores in your neck of the woods, though.

    Bookmark     June 20, 2013 at 9:57PM
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melikeeatplants

Yeah, keep doing what you're doing. I mulch my beds as well...

    Bookmark     June 20, 2013 at 6:22PM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

Where are you located? It doesn't show where your name appears.
Most people look up their USDA zone and/or where you live which helps others help YOU with any suggestions!
I live in No CA, others are on the East coast where there are many different growing conditions!
That's my only suggestion for now! Things look pretty good in your garden! Nancy

    Bookmark     June 20, 2013 at 9:11PM
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