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ltilton

You're right. Charentais has no webbing and that's not a Charentais.

You should have Words with Peaceful Valley.

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 2:19PM
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FuzzyPete(8b)

Hmm... Ok, I'll give it a good water tomorrow and throw some mulch around them and see what happens... I'm getting a little worried about the sole survivor of this one type of pumpkin... Its' leaves are getting more splotchy... I didn't think it was something like temps or soil because other pumpkin varieties in the same bed seemed to be doing well... I have a different bed near with some zucchini in it and they have been out growing everything (except some peas, perhaps)... but, it gets a bit different sun overall...

The bed is a foot tall , but i dug an extra 1/2 - 1' deep in the ground.. It is a new bed this year... I put a soil/compost mix in as I did in my other bed (last year) with the local nursery recommended amounts..

    Bookmark     June 20, 2013 at 1:52AM
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FuzzyPete(8b)

Well, i chose not to mulch because we were forecast to have a lot of rain and cooler temps roll through today before sun and warming tomorrow.. I figured it would not be a great idea to mulch and lock in cool/damp soil... (i could be overthinking all of this)

However, today, I looked at this plant again and noticed the following with its' new growth... it doesn't look healthy, but I cannot figure out if it looks like it was eaten or wilted. I am looking for pests under leaves and such....

One reason i have not been thinking something "global" like soil nutrients or temps was the first plant that up and died... It seemed to shrivel up and die all alone with only minor issues with the other plants around it.

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 1:39PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

It would be very likely that they would go to seed, if you had not pulled them. Any over wintered onion(full size) will flower eventually, given enough time.

Another thing is that some onions are compound inside. When you cut them you'll see two (or more)hearts. I think in the wild nature onions also multiply. Isn't that another way to MULTIPLY? :D

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 4:10AM
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vanisle_bc

madroneb & seysonn: I haven't done a "lift & separate" yet but I will do that & grow them out. Probably end up with enough seed to cover the planet. I'll try to remember to make a follow-up post when the results become clear.

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 12:22PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Agree that the odds they are actually cabbage loopers on tomato plants is slim. But dusting with Bt is effective on all eating caterpillars.

Dave

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 10:25AM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

Here in Socal, it doesn't matter what I plant -- once it warms up some, it's looper haven. Of course, I'm sure it doesn't help that I grow brassicas into and through the summer.

Kevin

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 12:02PM
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uscjusto

I had a slug problem. Sluggo fixed it quickly!

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 1:22AM
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sunnibel7 Md 7(7)

Iron phosphate pellets, sluggo is one brand name. In your case, I suspect they are hiding under the pots during the day, but basically they live everywhere in little pockets of moist plant decay. Very helpful in nature, a bit destructive when they get into gardens in large numbers.

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 9:20AM
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sunnibel7 Md 7(7)

Lovely! I just had a nice salad of storebought grapefruit and homegrown romaine, sweet onion and tarragon with a oil and vinegar dressing. But the oil was hazelnut and the vinegar was homemade tarragon vinegar. Garden food is the best.

    Bookmark     June 20, 2013 at 8:54PM
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mandolls(4)

Yummy! I havent harvested anything but lettuce and cilantro yet, and not much of that.

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 7:42AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Post pictures , it you will. I am sure somebody will help you to clarify your question.

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 3:58AM
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nickrosesn

This was Sweet Corn Buttergold. I did ask about yellowing leaves back in April.

    Bookmark     June 19, 2013 at 10:23PM
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n2xjk

Buttergold is an SE type, so assuming you want to stick with other SEs, varieties I've grown with good results, these all reach at least 6':
Delectable
Bodacious
Bi-Licious
Bon Jour

A variety I've had poor results with is Early & Often (despite being an SE type, had boring flavor and wasn't particularly sweet).

A variety I've had variable results with is Ruby Queen. Probably depends what you use as a pollinator (the package recommends using another SE to pollinate it; I've never grown RQ by itself)

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 12:24AM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

I like the bamboo(?) U's. A little more decorative than the plain old tomato cages. I think I'd use them for eggplant and tomatillas, maybe peppers if they get too heavy. Where did you find these? Nancy

    Bookmark     June 20, 2013 at 8:28PM
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shermthewerm(8 PNW)

Nancy, not sure about using them for tomatillos, but the bamboo hoops are fine for peppers & eggplant. I got these at our farm store Wilco & at Fred Meyer (Kroger's). You probably don't have either of these stores in your neck of the woods, though.

    Bookmark     June 20, 2013 at 9:57PM
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melikeeatplants

Yeah, keep doing what you're doing. I mulch my beds as well...

    Bookmark     June 20, 2013 at 6:22PM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

Where are you located? It doesn't show where your name appears.
Most people look up their USDA zone and/or where you live which helps others help YOU with any suggestions!
I live in No CA, others are on the East coast where there are many different growing conditions!
That's my only suggestion for now! Things look pretty good in your garden! Nancy

    Bookmark     June 20, 2013 at 9:11PM
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greenthumb_5(6a-7b)

The first looks like a new young developing leaf of a sweet potato(tuber) but why grow orimental sweet potato for leaves. The second one looks like Morning Glory to me.

    Bookmark     June 20, 2013 at 4:29PM
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chueh(7B)

Thanks for the clarification farmerdill. Wow, how nice to have them overwintered!

Greenthumb.5, oriental sweet potato leaves are very nutritious and may be more nutritious than several leafy vegetables combined. The tenderness of them just melts in the mouth. Best of all, it is fool proof to grow it, and a lot of them. The leaves of neither the ornamental nor the tuber sweet potato are edible.

    Bookmark     June 20, 2013 at 7:24PM
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newyorkrita(z6b/7a LI NY)

That looks very pretty.

    Bookmark     June 19, 2013 at 7:24PM
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julia42(9a)

That is very pretty. The flowers really add a lot. I think if I was doing it, I'd make sure I had a couple of square feet blooming most of the year (I'm in Texas, so year round is realistic...). It makes it look a lot more designed I think.

On a side note, I sure wish I could get my chives to bloom like that. I think I've had one flower from them in the past 3 years...

    Bookmark     June 20, 2013 at 7:14PM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

What they said.

You might want to clip a couple now. Then, like gardenman said, isolate the healthiest after they get some true leaves. Next time, 2 (3 max) should be enough with fresh seeds.

Kevin

This post was edited by woohooman on Thu, Jun 20, 13 at 3:25

    Bookmark     June 20, 2013 at 12:35AM
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julia42(9a)

What I often do when I have a cluster like that is to snip all the middle ones but leave 2 or 3 around the perimeter of the cluster. Let those 3 grow a little longer until you're sure which is the stronger and then clip the other 2. That way, each of the three has a little longer with more space to show its stuff before you pick the winner. Also, if you lose one or another to birds, cutworms, fungus, heat, etc, you'll still have another in its spot.

But make sure you eventually thin to one plant per bunch though. My experience is that Kohlrabi is VERY sensitive to being planted too densely.

    Bookmark     June 20, 2013 at 7:08PM
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More garden picturesA small area out back.
Posted by shermthewerm(8 PNW) June 20, 2013
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newyorkrita(z6b/7a LI NY)

And that looks good too.

    Bookmark     June 20, 2013 at 7:04PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Any "cycling" that may happen is triggered by available nutrients and how the lack of them can affect plant health.

So assuming there isn't a hidden monster that didn't get picked and is triggering shut down, most likely means it is past time to feed the plant.

Dave

    Bookmark     June 20, 2013 at 5:50PM
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Newatthis22

Well, I have two decently large sized waiting to be picked for dinner tonight.

I haven't given them anything since I planted them. So I'm assuming a feeding and picking the two should help?

I have Bonnie's herb and vegetable plant food. Think that should suffice? Or do you or anyone, recommend anything else?

They are all in potting soil less soil and have been since early April. Lots of rain since then and plenty of drainage!

    Bookmark     June 20, 2013 at 5:59PM
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