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cb-garden(6b heatzone 7 Perry county tn)

I was just out in my horse pasture digging for gold my self... its funny i have been complaining about them now i finally found them useful for something. Lol. I just tstarted gardening.

    Bookmark   May 26, 2013 at 3:51PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Could be any number of pests from flea beetles to various caterpillars, even birds or a few slugs.

But the damage shown is minimal and doesn't require any intervention. It poses no threat to the plants.

Dave

    Bookmark   May 26, 2013 at 12:39PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

You can find out much more about this over on the Growing Tomatoes forum here. it is called leaf edema and is due to over-watering and the plants being root bound in small containers. The excess water has no place to go except out into the leaf tissue.

They need to be planted ASAP or transplanted into larger containers of some sort and the watering reduced. The plant will recover but it will probably shed the affected leaves eventually.

Dave

    Bookmark   May 26, 2013 at 12:24PM
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elisa_z5

Here in zone 5 WV the traditional planting day for the crops you mention above is either memorial day or June 1st (depending on which farmer you're talking to). If you can get a forecast a week out around memorial day that says no frost, and night time temps not much lower than 50, then tomatoes can go out. Last year this time it was HOT.
Good luck with your shivering plants! Hope they make it.

    Bookmark   May 26, 2013 at 9:21AM
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ltilton

I've always gone with 5/15, if the forecast is favorable.

Problems happen when the forecast changes. Latest cold snap wasn't predicted early enough.

    Bookmark   May 26, 2013 at 10:08AM
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gjcore(zone 5 Aurora Co)

I've done teepee trellises before the problem I ran into was that harvesting can be a bit tricky. It seems there always a few cukes hiding in there that I didn't see.

I go with 8 foot poles and then slide rolled fencing onto the poles.

    Bookmark   May 25, 2013 at 5:46PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Cucumbers like gourds etc can climb by getting grip by their tendrils. But a slightly sloaped trellis can be easy on them.. you can guide them at first and then tie their vines, now and then, to trellis, to be stable.

    Bookmark   May 26, 2013 at 2:23AM
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farmerdill

Store bought potatoes work ok, providing the variety is suited to your area. Long season potatoes do not do well in south for example. The other danger is introducing a disease. Seed potaoes are grown under very stringent conditions and must be certified disease free.

    Bookmark   May 25, 2013 at 7:03PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Yes, tomatoes and potatoes are cousins.
When they flower, start setting tubers. So if you have a small fruit, then you have even bigger potatoes in the ground. But still growing. Mine are just about to flower. I see small buds coming.

I have grown potatoes in ATL, GA. I harvested in July. They wont set fruits(in the ground , nor grow them bigger , when soil tems get arouhnd 75F or so.

    Bookmark   May 26, 2013 at 12:13AM
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richdelmo

Have the same problem here my house is about 15 -20 feet from the veggie garden. The person applying the treatment asked if I were growing any veggies along the base of the house (I'm not) as that would be the only location to be concerned about. Even though the landscape slopes toward the garden he said it would not be impacted.

    Bookmark   May 25, 2013 at 10:50AM
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DaleOtroLado

Very good to know. I was getting really sad about the prospect of pulling all these healthy young plants. Thank you.

    Bookmark   May 25, 2013 at 9:46PM
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newyorkrita(z6b/7a LI NY)

I think it is the right plant. Coloring is right and the plant tag description talks about the long slender fruits. They just goofed on the picture.

    Bookmark   May 25, 2013 at 1:18PM
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newyorkrita(z6b/7a LI NY)

Not a nice day here. Breezy and drizzel. But I got my new eggplants planted.

    Bookmark   May 25, 2013 at 2:33PM
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planatus(6)

I first saw fall brassica seedlings growing in a greenhouse in Tennessee where it was at least 90 degrees. Since then I have been amazed at how much heat they can take. In fact, if you start too late and the plants are not big enough to take advantage of late summer warmth, b sprouts, broccoli, rutabaga etc won't make a good crop.

Some people set up an outdoor nursery bed for growing seedlings in summer, but I let mine germinate indoors and grow them on the deck, under a glass-topped patio table. It filters a little sun and keeps my little nursery from getting swamped by thunderstorms.

It's hot summer when I set the seedlings out, so I cover them with flower pots for a couple of days after transplanting, and then install a tulle tunnel to prevent aggravation from cabbageworms and armyworms. B sprout seedlings take several weeks to outgrow that little setup, but eventually the plants get huge and produce all through Oct and Nov.

    Bookmark   May 25, 2013 at 10:15AM
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AiliDeSpain(6a - Utah)

I'm going to start some broccoli too.

    Bookmark   May 25, 2013 at 2:27PM
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uscjusto

Slugs got to my burpless cucumbers.

I managed to save one of the plants, but the other one is just a green stem with no leaves.

    Bookmark   May 22, 2013 at 9:53PM
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t-bird(Chicago 5/6)

I have my diva inside in a large pot....she is doing well! A bit leggy, but she is inside in case the outside cukes don't work out.

    Bookmark   May 25, 2013 at 2:19PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

I have not done it but have read about it.
It is just a hobby and fun stuff. But the most common I have heard is grafting tomato into potato. The result is that it grows potatoes in the ground and tomatoes on top. OF COURSE that is what they claim...hMMMM.

I like hybridizing idea. But it requires lot of discipline and years of work..no kidding and fun stuff here.

    Bookmark   May 25, 2013 at 5:23AM
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rnewste(8b NorCal)

A number of folks are using Maxifort root stock and then grafting the target variety on to them. The theory being Maxifort is a vigorous root, and will be disease tolerant during the growing season. I will be trying this on several plants over this Winter as an experiment.

Raybo

    Bookmark   May 25, 2013 at 1:21PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

I'm mainly thinking of herbs such as lemon and bee balm to attract bees and enhance flavor...

Ok, attracting pollinators is always a good thing! Even tho most veggies are self pollinating it is always handy to have them for the squash and such. All around the edges of the garden works well for that purpose. And they aren't picky either - most any flowering plants will get their attention.

Improving taste is another matter since it simply can't be proven/documented in any way and some problems can result depending on how planted - shading from the bigger plants, needing very different nutrient and water needs, competing for nutrients and water, attracting pests that can harm the primary crop (as marigolds do with aphids), etc. Again borders work ok, mixed in with the vegetables needs to be done with care.

A herb garden or patch or even in a separate row that is just herbs is a great thing to have and since herbs prefer much lower nutrient needs than vegetables they thrive best when away from all the heavy fertilizing is. Mixed in with the tomato plants and such - not so much.

Experiment with some placements and see what works for you best.

I posted this question in the companion planting...and got no replies

Yeah that's a problem and a clue as to the fading popularity of it. There is still alot of information to read there but it isn't active. When the fad was hot and heavy years ago it was pretty aggressive in this forum with all its claims and things got pretty heated so was given its own forum. Over time and with experience and questionable results the fad and the forum has pretty much faded. It just never developed into all it was initially cracked up to be.

Dave

    Bookmark   May 25, 2013 at 11:24AM
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Garden.Geek(6)

I think I'll try bordering a bit and see what works... Not all that concerned about the flavor thing as anything out of the garden is gonna be delicious anyway! :-) I'll just stick with a couple that I know the bees like and maybe something small and colorful to catch their attention.

Thanks again, Dave! So glad I discovered this wonderful online community of gardeners; It's really helped tremendously! :-)

    Bookmark   May 25, 2013 at 12:22PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Its normal use assumes at least some drying now and then for best effect. Fully saturated and matted down it could cause a problem.

Can't you lift it, shake it out, fluff it up some, and dry it out some or prop it up on a center stake in some fashion so it drains better?

Dave

    Bookmark   May 25, 2013 at 10:31AM
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daninthedirt(Cent TX; HZ10, Sunset z30, USDA z8a)

My tulle is just draped over my squash plants, with no central support. The leaves hold it up. Anchored at the periphery with 2x2s and bricks. Works fine. The squash doesn't mind. I slide a sprinkler underneath it and the spray comes down on top of it. Takes an hour to dry off completely after getting wet.

Now, if your row cover is denser or less permeable than tulle, it might be problematical. For example, row cover that is used for frost protection is not permeable. That's the whole idea. It could get pretty humid underneath that kind of row cover if it was wet and hot.

    Bookmark   May 25, 2013 at 11:51AM
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njitgrad

If it wasn't so rainy and windy, I probably wouldn't have covered anything. I did it out of an abundance of caution considering evening temps will be in the lows 40s until Tues night, wind gusts approaching 40mph Sat/Sun, and saturated soil in raised beds.

It wasn't fun fighting the wind and rain trying to cover those beds in plastic. I had to cut the sheets in my shed and then try to staple them over my cages and trellises into the bed frames while the wind played games with me.

I was so frustrated when I finished that I forgot about the strawberry seedlings on my deck until Galiana's response raised my eyebrows. Will have to check on them later.

    Bookmark   May 25, 2013 at 9:50AM
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2ajsmama

Supposed to get down to 38 and gusts up to 32 mph tonight. Pouring right now - glad we covered the strawberries yesterday afternoon. I've already got some good-sized berries. Blueberries, apples, and raspberries (just starting to flower) may be toast by morning.

    Bookmark   May 25, 2013 at 11:34AM
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sunnibel7 Md 7(7)

Looks like some sort of fungus or mold fruiting bodies. Probably breaking down the wood chips I think I see in the photo. Turning the wood into soil. Likely not a problem.

While you could indeed be overwatering, it is fairly common, I would expect the peppers to struggle more than the melons or squash if that were the case. Have you checked your ailing plants for various insect pests like squash vine borer and cucumber beetles and squash bugs? Cheers!

    Bookmark   May 25, 2013 at 10:16AM
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