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planatus(6)

One little thing you could do would be to cover that black side of the planter with white or beige. It will reflect light rather than warmth. The peas will bloom and bear for three weeks or more, and their color right now looks great. Can you get to the back side for harvesting?

    Bookmark     June 14, 2013 at 8:38AM
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ChicagoDeli37

Good idea thanks! Yes I I could to the back side. Not easily but I'm small enough. That cart has wheels wont won't be and me to move it with peas growing into chicken wire

    Bookmark     June 14, 2013 at 8:49AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Agree. Excess water (rain or hand watering leach out the nutrients ESPECIALLY nitrogen. Nitrogen being water soluble , will go out much faster than K and P. Another factor could be lack of sun, when they do not get enough sun.

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 11:56PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

OK, but a little bit fertilizer , probably, is needed.

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 11:51PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

You can, they are usually side dressed with some sort of granular fertilizer. Personally I wouldn't use the Tomato Tone on them as it is only 3-4-6 and slow acting. They need more than that. Pick up some 10-10-10 or so to use on them.

Dave

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 8:16PM
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cooperbailey

thanks!

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 10:35PM
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Suebeeee

If you have had a great deal of rain as many of us have had this year, you may be dealing with a fungus. Start by making sure they are drier and as ventalated as possible. Look on the bottom of the leaves to rule out aphids, which are very tiny bugs. If it is aphids, a soap and water cleaning, done regularly should do the trick.

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 8:12PM
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parketta30(9)

Thanks so much.

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 10:21PM
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kanuk(Zone 5 Qc Canada)

Thanks for your reply. Let's assume that after a few days none recover....
would it be advisable to re-dig & re-sow in the same rows? Is carrot fly maggot infestation caused by the recent crop failure an issue?
I prefer to replant & have full rows of carrots rather than leave one surviving carrot every 10 inches.

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 8:04PM
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tomr(Z6 NY)

I'd leave them alone, I'll bet they're fine.

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 10:14PM
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popke(10 Seminole, FL)

Thank you Dave. The leaves are kind of sparse right now because of the looper attack so I know we don't have a hidden giant. I guess it may have run its course although its only been producing fruit for about a month. Is that normal?
If we scrap it, when is it a good time to plant another one?
Thank you so much!

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 8:30PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Well without seeing a picture I'm not convinced that what you had was cabbage loopers rather than some of the more common cuke pests. Possible but on cukes that would be very very unusual. Far more common is pickle worms.

But be that as it may, the lack of leaves would explain why the plant has shut down. Not enough leaves for photosynthesis. No photosyn = no energy for production..

As to when to replant in your zone I can't help with that as planting times in your zone would be very different from mine. The zone 9 planting guide I pulled up says end of Feb. to end of April only for planting cukes.

Even in my zone cukes won't survive during the summer heat. Once the air temps reach the 90's the pollen becomes non-viable. They are primarily a spring vegetable.

Dave

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 9:35PM
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insteng

I would not try to move them now. They should be fine as long as you keep them watered well and they have plenty of fertilizer.

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 4:32PM
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lyzzie72(8)

Thanks everyone

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 8:58PM
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ltilton

Best not to. Why can't you weed and mulch now, before the ferns grow larger?

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 6:00PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Agree it is a chafer. While they can damage lawns in the grub stage if the infestation is severe they are garden neutrals for the most part. Not something to worry about.

Lots of bugs in a garden and 95% of them are beneficials or neutrals.

Dave

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 12:21PM
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lkzz(7b)

Second Dave's Chafer...some are naughty like the Rose Chafer (yellow scales) but most adults don't feed like the Northern Masked Chafer which would be in Zone 8a or there about...

Isn't it odd that there are creatures that don't feed as adults - assuming their primary purpose is just to procreate.

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 5:58PM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

A bee hanging out on a leaf for a couple hours?? I think jean may have it. If I got nailed with an airless paint sprayer, I'd probably want to take a breather also.

:)

Kevin

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 2:09AM
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lkzz(7b)

A bee covered in pollen...
Hope it doesn't have allergies (ha, ha).

Possibly a Cuckoo Bee

Here is a link that might be useful: Cuckoo bees

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 5:50PM
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julia42(9a)

It looks like the green-stemmed variety of Malabar Spinach to me...

Does that ring a bell?

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 4:34PM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

Green beans? Leaves "almost" look like something in the nightshade family though.

Kevin

This post was edited by woohooman on Thu, Jun 13, 13 at 17:04

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 5:01PM
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lgteacher(SCal)

Organic does not necessarily mean harmless. Almost anything can be toxic if applied in high enough doses - even water. Even though you followed directions, the fertilizer may have been too intense if it was indirect contact with the stem. Then again, it could be a coincidence. We gardeners are always learning.

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 12:39PM
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njitgrad

Sorry about your tomatoes. I did something similar to what you did but had the opposite outcome.

I put down Espoma Tomato-Tone about 10 days ago and never watered it in because I had a hunch we were in for an extended rainy period (which we are still currently in) in NJ.

My tomatoes have gone bananas since then. All I did was measure three tablespoons and applied it in a circular fashion around the stem no less than 3 inches from the stem. See pics below from another thread.

The shorter plants are those that I started from seed three weeks after the first set of plants but they are all healthy and happy it seems. I'm no expert but if it worked for me....maybe give Tomato-Tone a try next time??

Here is a link that might be useful: my tomatoes

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 4:51PM
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njitgrad

What if determinate leaves are angled downwards and touching the soil?

What if some branches are too thick to just pinch off? Should I use something to cut them? and how far from the stem?

In 11 years I have never grown tomatoes that outgrew cages of the size that you see in the pics right now. Looks like that's about to change. I guess that the Promix I used in combination with my new GeoPots is proving to be a winner. This is the first time I am using either of the two. Maybe I'll just stick longer bamboo sticks in the center of the containers and support the stems as they continue to grow. Or should I stack a 2nd cage on top of the first?

Since I have two of each tomato plant, I'll probably want one to grow larger tomatoes, and one to grow more tomatoes. How does the pruning technique determine this?

I'll toss the arugula in my compost bin. I started it from seed when it was still quite cool in early May. Maybe next year I'll start it indoors?

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 4:18PM
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insteng

In 11 years I have never grown tomatoes that outgrew cages of the size that you see in the pics right now. Looks like that's about to change. I guess that the Promix I used in combination with my new GeoPots is proving to be a winner. This is the first time I am using either of the two. Maybe I'll just stick longer bamboo sticks in the center of the containers and support the stems as they continue to grow. Or should I stack a 2nd cage on top of the first?

I would just stack two cages on top of each other. I've grown tomatoes down here before that were over 8' tall. So having them out grow the cages are common. I use 4' cages now and just let them droop back down over the top.

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 4:30PM
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wertach zone 7-B SC

tomncath, JFYI, If you have firehouse subs in your area you can buy their pickle buckets for $2 each and save a little money. My local Lowes charges $4.50 each! Plus they donate the money to charity.

elisa_Z5, You do know that sweet potatoes set roots and produce more potatoes from those roots if you let them sprawl?

drayven, Like others have said, peppers, cukes, melons, ETC. I don't have any now I disposed of them years ago after they fell apart and were unusable as cages.

The parts are still in use several places around the farm. I used them to repair fence, replace lost clips on my tractor, made hangers for storing stuff. I even used some pieces for a gas welding repair in a pinch.

I like the Christmas tree idea! I won't comment on Madonna!

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 1:52PM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

I still use the heavy duty ones for the first 4-5' of growth on my maters. If I can get a pic, maybe I'll post what my caging/trellising contraption is now. All others are used up on my peppers-- great for peppers.

I even use them to cage my baby seedlings for all my brassicas et al to keep my dogs from trampling -- once they reach about a foot in height, I pull them off. I also use them to lay down over freshly sown seeds to keep the dogs from trampling there also. it's so much easier than fencing off with chicken/hog wire. Like others have mentioned, bush beans and cukes. I've even used them lying down and draping plastic over them to protect seedlings during downpours.

Kevin

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 2:45PM
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