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NilaJones(7b)

>>To clarify, IS there a benefit to spraying the leaves with a soap solution if you don't see any bugs on them?

If you know what aphids look like, then probably not. If you don't know what they look like, then maybe :).

Mine were the color of the leaf, and smaller than the head of a pin, and buried deep in the crevices of the undersides of the leaves.

    Bookmark     June 5, 2013 at 12:50AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

A lot of responses. I have not read all of them but here is my 2 cents worth of suggestion:

If I were you, I would just direct sow and forget those plants. They don't look healthy for whatever the reason. It could possibly be stressed and will not develop into vigorous plants. My cucumbers were cold stressed too, I just pulled them and planted another series.

    Bookmark     June 5, 2013 at 5:17AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

I would say fertilize and water more often. Also mulch the hills with straw, pine needles, to keep the roots cooler and maintain moisture longer.

I think on the trellis they loose water much faster under Texas sun as opposed to laying down on the ground. That is one reason they need moisture.

PS: Post a picture , if you may. So people here can help you better.

    Bookmark     June 5, 2013 at 3:24AM
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CaraRose

I'm pretty sure you need a male cuke to pollinate. I believe if you have a normal variety nearby, it would also work..

    Bookmark     June 5, 2013 at 12:40AM
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john9001(SW, PA, 6)

Preen makes two types of pre-emergent weed preventer, one has trifluralin the other is just corn gluten, the corn one is labeled "organic". after a while the corn gluten turns to fertilizer. Read the labels.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 5:19PM
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barbe_wa

It's the organic one that I use.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 11:51PM
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john9001(SW, PA, 6)

you may end up with cucmatoes.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 5:24PM
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glib(5.5)

the root space is plenty. Both plants go down 4 feet.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 8:31PM
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nc_crn

In case anyone is wondering, especially since they're owned by Monsanto and there's a ton of misinformation out there about them...Seminis's registered trademark on their X3R stack isn't a patent on resistance to bacterial speck.

It's simply the registered trademark on the "name" they've given to the trait stack they developed and bred into their plants. It's like "Certs mints with Retsyn"...rather than "Certs mints with copper gluconate and flavoring". Anyone can put copper gluconate and flavoring into their mints...they can't call it or market it as Retsyn, though.

    Bookmark     May 25, 2013 at 4:55AM
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Jon.69367(6)

I really appreciate the information in such a knowledgeable way.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 7:40PM
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2ajsmama

Oh yeah, bust up old roofs and stone walls for mulch.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 12:26PM
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julia42(9a)

Yes, the description says that they're from recycled walls and roofs.

Then later on it says they're "quarried" by a family owned business.... hmm...

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 6:43PM
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IAmSupernova(SE Texas 9A)

AFAIK Lady Bug eggs are yellow.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 1:08PM
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sunnibel7 Md 7(7)

Ladybug was probably dining on some of those. :) pretty sure those are all pests in that photo.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 2:52PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Just pick/scoop them out and toss them in the compost pile. They do good work there.

Dave

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 11:12AM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

Dave: Wouldn't you just be throwing an even higher population of them back into the garden when you use said compost?

Kevin

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 2:11PM
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abnorm(Orlando)

Those are common markings on mature Evergreen bunching onions

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 8:06AM
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yanyan88

So they are normal? I've seen them on the green onions at the grocery stores too.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 1:06PM
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Hishigata

Thanks for all the great advice. I had never heard of SVB until joining garden web. I did surgery on a declining pie pumpkin this morning. I pulled out two white squishy bugs and fed them to the chickens.

I just planted a second round of squash in a different bed but don't want the tender new plants to be eaten from within before fruiting. I checked for eggs this morning and did not find any. I have been using neem oil to combat aphids on my brussels sprouts. Does anyone know if neem oil helps combat SVB or squash beetles?

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 12:44PM
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wertach zone 7-B SC

I had fun frying them buggers when I got home yesterday!

When I put the torch on the plants the adults came out in numbers and got fried also!

I got a lot of them, but I'm sure some escaped!

Hishigata, I read somewhere that neem helps. I plan to get some on the way home.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 12:56PM
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ltilton

Yes. Compared to what you'd get if you planted the vines 2 feet apart.

But since they look healthy you might as well leave them and plant more if you want more cukes.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 12:04PM
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seeker502

Here is my first raised garden.

Here is a link that might be useful: My Garden

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 12:37PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Probably your pH tester came with some kind of rough guidelines for different vegetables, fruits etc !

But in a home garden we cannot and it is not feasible to provide a perfect pH for each vegetable we grow. But fortunately most veggies thrive in a range of pH. Probably that range is 5.7 to 7.2. From what I have gathered, again, most plants prefer slightly acid soil( say 6.8). However, thre are a group of garden plants that prefer slightly sweet(alkaline) soil (say 7.2)

But with regard to your measurement (pH =5), I think that if far too acid for just about any garden veggie.. And another thing is that soil pH cannot be changed overnight . It will take months for lime to become effective. There are some fast acting sweeteners. Also, deficiency in things like phosphorus and magnesium can contribute to soil acidity. Therefore, in my opinion, applying those elements can raise soil pH.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 12:31PM
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ChicagoDeli37

Thanks, so I could cut this down and till it in soil as beneficial ?

The squirrel around here is very smart and likes to dig a lot of deep holes, cages were the only thing I could think of

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 8:25AM
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t-bird(Chicago 5/6)

I recommend a terrier for squirrel protection.

I used to not be able to get anything from a garden. Now, the garden pup is on patrol, they don't even chance it when he's in the house....

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 12:21PM
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planatus(6)

I have grown this and other varieties, and don't know how they would do from early summer planting. I grow them twice, once in spring from seeds started indoors 6 weeks before last frost, and again in early August. The spring plants are good, but the fall plants are phenomenal! In summer, sometimes I sow a nurse crop of buckwheat and rip out holes for planting the fennel, which benefits from a bit of shade and shelter on hot days.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 7:49AM
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CaraRose

I don't know if was the variety or the fact that they were fresh harvested, but both bulbs were just delicious and super tender.

I may attempt a summer planting and just see what happens.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 10:59AM
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