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edweather(Zone 5a/b Central NY)

IMO there is no way that plants can get that leggy unless they are reaching for the sun. I'm guessing that they are getting no more than 5 hours of sun per day.

    Bookmark   May 11, 2013 at 9:53AM
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robertlovesmaters(Zone 10 Petaluma CA)

It does look a bit dry.. tomatoes need plenty of water.. the leaves look healthy albeit spaced out.. might try digging it up, cut off all the branches except the top two., dig a trench and plant it laying down with only top sticking out.. the entire stem that is planted will become part of the root structure. don't worry if it is crooked. it will right itself.. but,, if you don't have it in full sunlight,, it continue to get long and lanky.. maters need full sun.. and plenty of H2O

    Bookmark   May 18, 2013 at 2:53PM
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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

Yes, millipedes. Are scavengers. Don't damage live plants.

    Bookmark   May 18, 2013 at 2:43PM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

Well, the plant started getting dry, and every time i watered it, the water would run STRAIGHT THROUGH the canna coco, like ALL the water...

I'm thinking that the canna coco isn't the best choice for a container (don't know what it is, though)
Any time the water runs straight through usually means the soil is so dried out that it repels water, and either needs to be broken up and soaked or replaced. If you want to try and salvage what you have, I would soak the pot (we're talking under water) until bubbles stop coming up. I would also poke the soil deep with a chopstick or something to get the water into the soil.
This is mostly house plant/container ideas. I truly think it's time to start over!
Look into the container gardening forum for better advise! Nancy

    Bookmark   May 16, 2013 at 9:15PM
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robertlovesmaters(Zone 10 Petaluma CA)

I think the one thing that needs to be zeroed in on, is what nancyjane said.. "so dried out that it repels water"
seed starting mixes and other types of soil are so fine they will repel the water.. my sons friend almost killed 10 plants.. he replanted ,, watered and walked away.. I was in the greenhouse and picked up one of the pots.. which was as light as a feather.. the water just ran through. the top looked wet bet it was bone dry underneath.. water is heavy. so a well watered container should be heavy also. it is a good way to tell how moist your soil is..

Good luck.. :)

    Bookmark   May 18, 2013 at 2:16PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

I would not do anythind. All you need eyes on seeds.
The seed will actually rot in the ground anyway. The starch in the seed is just food for the genes to nurish on while growing roots and stems.

    Bookmark   May 12, 2013 at 2:17PM
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cebiginalaska(3a)

Thanks for your input. Still haven't planted because there is still snow / ice on my planting area. I have been trying to clean it but there is still ice... also still probable freezing in the future

    Bookmark   May 18, 2013 at 2:00PM
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pnbrown

I think the term "scallion" simply means the young green shoot of an edible allium. It doesn't tell anything about species. A young garlic plant could be called a scallion, though certainly most of what are called scallions are in allium cepa.

Then we have the term "onion" which is at least as broad and imprecise.

    Bookmark   May 18, 2013 at 6:25AM
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veggiecanner(Id 5/6)

in our area they sell green walla walla sweets, and they label them as walla walla. but iv'e never tryed regrowing them.

    Bookmark   May 18, 2013 at 11:52AM
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pnbrown

Yes, the oaks leaf-out very late here because of the cool maritime spring (I guess). Beeches and maples are leafed, mostly. Further inland the oaks will be more advanced. Probably it is about equal here to way upstate NY.

    Bookmark   May 18, 2013 at 8:49AM
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sunnibel7 Md 7(7)

I just chopped down mine a week ago. :) They are pretty, for sure. I left one for the bees, though they have plenty other sources... Like my strawberries! Do you just let that self sow?

    Bookmark   May 18, 2013 at 11:13AM
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t-bird(Chicago 5/6)

coffee grounds are great, and if you live near a coffee house/cafe - maybe able to get them in quantity.

    Bookmark   May 18, 2013 at 9:11AM
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njitgrad

I think I'm going to end up buying and putting down mini bark nuggets on Monday unless I get a better suggestion before that.

Pine straw sounded like my best option but is not available at any of my local garden centers. Online it is $59 for a box delivered, a bit more than I want to pay for a cover.

I am not going to a coffee house to ask for grinds. Besides it would take a long time to accumulate the quantity I need. I want to put the cover down all at once.

I an not going to use straw (whole or shredded) based on the possiblity of it having been previously treated with something (there is another thread in the soil forum that I created after I started this thread in the veggie forum).

    Bookmark   May 18, 2013 at 9:22AM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

Actually, I've put some toothpicks into a sweet potato, put the bottom half in water (changing the water every couple of days) and had the vines grow all the way around my kitchen window! It would save some garden space and you'd have them right there in the house year round!
I'm hoping I'm not confusing sweet potatoes with yams (if there's a difference) I don't know, I don't eat either one.LOL Nancy

    Bookmark   May 17, 2013 at 11:02PM
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noki

What they commonly sell as "Yams" in the USA are sweet potatoes. There are actual yams, but they are not common in the US.

Sweet Potatoes are easy to grow, especially if all you care about is the leaves. The vines could be ornamental, just like the light green and purple types they sell for just the looks.

    Bookmark   May 18, 2013 at 1:00AM
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edweather(Zone 5a/b Central NY)

Frankly, I would just restart them directly in the ground. You haven't really lost much time, plus pumpkins don't have to be picked until October. I'm not even starting my pumpkins or melons yet. Will direct seed them late May or Early June, and the pumpkins will probably still be ready too early.

    Bookmark   May 17, 2013 at 10:14PM
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zzackey(8b GA)

After your last frost date.

    Bookmark   May 17, 2013 at 10:40PM
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t-bird(Chicago 5/6)

did you rip the bottom of the peat pot off? that always binds them in I find....not as easily rotted as reputed to be.

    Bookmark   May 17, 2013 at 2:21PM
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organicveggiesplease

Thanks all.... I hardened a little - only a couple days. IT seems to be doing better... I didn't rip the bottom of the peat pot off but the roots were already starting to come out the bottom of it so I did not want to hurt anything... thanks for the follow up.

    Bookmark   May 17, 2013 at 8:33PM
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infectiousgardening

and final post today. Another shot of the infected area...

    Bookmark   May 17, 2013 at 6:57PM
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ltilton

I sure wouldn't pull those plants! They look fine. Except for that one strange thing.

    Bookmark   May 17, 2013 at 7:46PM
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kathyb912_in (5a/5b, Central IN)(5a/5b)

Uaskigyrl, you have a great attitude! All new gardeners make mistakes, so expecting them and having fun with them is the best way to learn. :)

Dave, you taught me something new. I had no idea about the roots of marigolds and sunflowers having a growth retardant affect. Does that apply in the main garden, too, or just containers? I don't generally companion plant, but I'd be curious how far away marigolds need to be planted from veggie crops to be "safe".

    Bookmark   May 17, 2013 at 3:47PM
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donnabaskets(Zone 8a, Central MS)

And me too. I knew about sunflowers, did not know about marigolds.....So maybe it was the marigolds in the early years that were causing less than outstanding tomatoes....maybe I double dug my beds for nothing? Either way, no more marigolds with tomatoes.

    Bookmark   May 17, 2013 at 6:32PM
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naturegirl_2007 5B SW Michigan(5B SW Michigan)

Compare planting depth, watering, and mulching for starters. Differences in them could be possibilities, especially planting depth.

    Bookmark   May 13, 2013 at 7:23AM
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woost2

It must be depth. Nothing was watered nor mulched. Just planted and covered and left for spring rains. This fall I'm going to have her at my side when planting!

    Bookmark   May 17, 2013 at 6:23PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Something to plant? No.

What you can do is add beneficial nematodes to the soil and let them take care of them but based on your previous post about this your problem is minimal you said - 8 worms in traps - so the cost of b. nems might not be justified. In such a small area as your garden using several potato traps should get most of them but be sure to check them daily.

If you have no objections to chemicals then this fall you can treat the bed well to kill them off before planting next.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: your previous post

    Bookmark   May 17, 2013 at 5:50PM
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jemsister(7)

Thanks loads, Dave! =)

    Bookmark   May 17, 2013 at 6:22PM
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howelbama(7 NJ)

Here is a link that may help you ID them.

Here is a link that might be useful: ID

    Bookmark   May 17, 2013 at 3:37PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

See pics below. Note pic of flying ants vs. termites.

Here is a link that might be useful: Pics of migrating termites

    Bookmark   May 17, 2013 at 6:12PM
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