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njitgrad

Great thanks. I didn't know that not picking them frequently slows down their production. I have been snipping off yellow/damaged leaves, mostly from the hardening process. This shouldn't hurt growth in any way right? I've been cutting each leaf right by its branch, leaving the branch sticking out from the stem.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 9:27AM
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njitgrad

Deleted duplicate post.

This post was edited by njitgrad on Tue, Jun 4, 13 at 9:30

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 9:28AM
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cb-garden(6b heatzone 7 Perry county tn)

You sound just like him. Lol i live in a very small town in the middle of no where. The nearest walmart is 30 some miles away. Dollar general is thru most happen spot in town. I live on 29 acres surrounded by hills and we have a creek and pond. We have horses in a nice pasture. I don't want to move. He says he will make more but the cost of living is slot higher out there from what i understand.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 1:40AM
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lucillle

Cb-garden

Don't be afraid of messing up. Gardening is supposed to be fun- we all make mistakes (and come here to laugh about them). If you obsess on perfection, you won't achieve it and you won't be happy.
Probably the worst that will happen is something won't grow. The next worst is you will be so successful (zucchini) that you will have wheelbarrowfuls of produce.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 6:47AM
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macky77(2a)

I've heard of using broccoli leaves in place of cabbage to make rolls, so I tried it last year... after the broccoli headed. The leaves were very, very tough, much more so than any cabbage. I didn't try using them again, though I suppose I could have tried cooking them longer before making the rolls. I think younger, pre-heading leaves might taste better. Perhaps growing a row with tighter spacing just for the purpose of leaves?

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 1:20AM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

I'd think they'd be more like collards, which imo, like to be cooked a long time. The reason I don't harvest broccoli leaves is because i usually have collards and kale going at the same time.

Nope. After my 1st and successful attempt at cabbage this past winter with Napa, it has now become my "go to" for that.

Kevin

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 3:31AM
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glorygrown(PA/6)

Mine own DH thought the wood ashes would be great for the garden but wasn't sure so he dumped them mostly in one pile, which became one soaking wet, cement-looking heap that made me say "What is that??!!" Got most of it out since I want to plant tomoatoes in that area this year.

    Bookmark     April 24, 2013 at 2:33PM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

Well, my plants are looking great, just forgot about the "extra" stuff added and added a little more! Oh MY!
I do have some flowers happening!
Should I just flood them to get rid of some of the xtra?

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 1:48AM
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superOK

You are right! I don't know why I thought they were persians. They're actually Poona Kheeras which is a white heirloom variety from India.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 1:28AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Right. They are NOT Persian, as I can tell from the ones sold in stores.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 1:39AM
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mandolls(4)

Its as much about how you plant them as what they look like. Dont plant them in rows - plant them in groups, as you would any annual - mix them up or create patterns. There is a current post in the Potager forum about someones new front yard edible landscaping - take a look at that.

Here is a link that might be useful: Edible Landscape

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 7:02PM
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AiliDeSpain(6a - Utah)

I have ornamental peppers and red basil in the front :)

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 10:47PM
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wolverine1012

I think there is a misunderstanding. I've never seen cauliflower develop side shoots--only broccoli.

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 9:43PM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

wolverine's right. Broccoli does the side shooting ..LOL

I wouldn't have pulled them -- some times(I've noticed) it was a rush of warmth that finally kicked my brassicas into heading.. Especially the broccoli -- not nearly as finicky to the heat as cauli.

Kevin

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 9:48PM
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clairdo2(3)

sorry about the joke' I don't know how it got there lol

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 9:16PM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

Probably not much at this point since they're so small. And since I don't know how much rainfall you'll get, you'll have to play that by ear. Almost all veggies prefer MOIST soil. Not wet.

One thing i noticed though -- no mulch. After you finally thin down to one plant per 18", you'll probably want to lay down 2-3" of mulch. This will help greatly with keeping the soil moist and cool throughout the coming hot season.

Kevin

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 7:00PM
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cb-garden(6b heatzone 7 Perry county tn)

I added some compost and mulch today.

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 7:15PM
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lonmower(zone8 Western Oregon)

Possibly what you see is what you will get. Both onions and carrots are small seeds and therefore require very fine soil in their bed. I have had good success broadcasting carrot seeds in a well worked bed and then cover with a thin layer of potting type soil (1/8") You might want to start over with the carrots (?)

It seems very late to be doing anything with onions. They are light sensitive and should have been planted months ago. Even if you had onion seedlings, it would be very late to be be starting now. Here in Zone 8, I am now harvesting (delicious) Keepsake onions which were planted in mid-August and over-wintered. And also have several long day varieties which have not bulbed yet and were planted as seedlings in March

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 6:08PM
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cb-garden(6b heatzone 7 Perry county tn)

Ok this is all a learning process for me my first garden. I was growing the carrots for my kids to have a treat for the horses. Lol

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 6:13PM
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njitgrad

How long did you harden them for? I hardened mine over the course of 10 days and though initially I thought they wouldn't make it, have started to flourish.

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 4:50PM
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Sharco(5b)

I hardened them for about 10 days but the weather was so erratic, it was hard to get a few consecutive days in a row. I'd just leave them on the sill and open the window. I think next year I'm just going to direct seed them into the ground or use cloches or something.

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 5:46PM
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melikeeatplants

That's good, you should hill the soil up as they grow....

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 4:01PM
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insteng

I have them planted in a two foot deep trench. I covered the ones that sprouted already with more cow manure. I'm surprised they sprouted at all. I guess I'll find out this coming weekend if anymore sprouted.

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 5:12PM
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cb-garden(6b heatzone 7 Perry county tn)

Well i added soil around the break and. Now we are getting one heck of a rain. I noticed that it had a bloom on it this morning should i remove it so it concentrates on rebuilding its roots?

    Bookmark     June 1, 2013 at 4:08PM
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cb-garden(6b heatzone 7 Perry county tn)

So far so good

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 3:50PM
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donnabaskets(Zone 8a, Central MS)

No picture. But yes. It does sound like flea beetles. Keep your plants well fed and watered. Chances are they will be okay once they put on growth and toughen up the leaves a bit.

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 3:02PM
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moraleagle(6a)

Thanks

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 3:46PM
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pnbrown

It's a function of time available. Keeping weeds under good control on an acre by hand is a lot of time. IME, if you let grassy weeds get established you will not control them with a hoe, you either have to let it remain grass and cut it by hand or power, or turn the root mass by shovel which is mad amounts of labor. I find this in light soil, in heavy soil it is much more the case and the labor will be much greater.

If you are serious, you must hoe every area at least once a week until the crops shade the ground. Otherwise various difficult weeds will get beyond hoeing and then on the scale of an acre you will be overwhelmed without machinery.

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 9:24AM
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ltilton

When you find the hoe, sharpen it. Nothing like a knife edged hoe to cut through the weeds.

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 3:37PM
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