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TravisE(6b)

i havent yet. i live in zone 6 in west virginia. i really watch for them. i grow giant pumpkins and them thangs really love the vines on them. one thang i fount that helps with them is to till some 7 dust in the ground in spring. it kills the ones sleeping in the soil over the winter.

    Bookmark     June 9, 2013 at 10:40PM
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planatus(6)

When the wild chicory starts blooming on the roadsides, the SVB moths will emerge. Around here the chicory is still in rosette form, with no flower spikes. Blue flowers mean red alert.

    Bookmark     June 10, 2013 at 7:49AM
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lgteacher(SCal)

By all means plant the little guys. You'll have more garlic in the future. I keep my harvested garlic in a paper bag in the garage. It seems to keep for a long time.

Here is a link that might be useful: elephant garlic

    Bookmark     June 9, 2013 at 12:59PM
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christripp

The single clove, undivided, is if you harvest the bulbette after only one season. Certainly use a few of the first year growth, very tasty, like scallions only with the garlic flavor.
If you leave it to die back and regrow for a second season, it should result in the full cloves. While I hate waiting for 2 summers to get this garlic, on the other hand, it means upwards of 100 heads of garlic for free, from a few garlic flowers gone to seed:)

This is my second season now, the plants are about 2' tall now (some have not gotten as big as that) and I'll let you know what the bulbs are like this fall, my fingers are crossed. I have already started another nursery bed for the remaining 3 year old bulbettes, for next Falls harvest.

    Bookmark     June 10, 2013 at 5:21AM
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jimster(z7a MA)

There is a pattern to the color of the leaves. Areas near veins are darker than areas between the veins. This is called chlorosis and is usually an indication of nitrogen deficiency. An application of liquid fertilizer will almost certainly help. The older leaves are probably a lost cause but new growth will be darker green and healthy.

What appears to be insect damage may be that because plants in poor health are more likely to be attacked than healthy ones. Or the damage, which appears to be mostly in the area between veins, may be a direct result of the nutrient deficiency.

Jim

    Bookmark     June 9, 2013 at 5:45PM
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christripp

I'd try a few things, though often it's hard to correct a problem once started. Add a ring of a good organic manure around the plant. if you have access to leaves from a Comfrey plant, they are the BEST fertilizers, just ripe up some leaves and put them under the manure ring.
I have one growing in an out of the way place in the garden. I had to dig down and incase it with a barrier to stop it spreading, they can be invasive. The reason their leaves are so excellent for the garden and the compost is, they can have tap roots that go 10' (yes 10 FEET) down, bringing up minerals that the other plants do not have access to. They are a large beautiful looking plant as well, don't suffer from any diseases nor bugs and just take care of themselves. Obviously you never have to water them, with a 10' root:) I just rip off leaves here and there, during planting time and spread around the garden soil in the fall.
You can also try fish emulsion, kelp if it's available, stinging nettle soaked in a bucket of water and "cooked" in the sun is a nice fertilizer too. While you will lose those leaves in the photo, if you can bring the vine back to health, a few lost leaves shouldn't hurt the whole plant.

Here is a link that might be useful: Comfrey plant as fertilizer

    Bookmark     June 10, 2013 at 4:58AM
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bsmith717(6)

That is the next step if my screening doesn't cut it. My father has quite the arsenal of .177-.22 caliber air propelled weaponry! ;)

    Bookmark     June 9, 2013 at 8:07PM
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christripp

Funny enough, last Spring a mother rabbit set up her nursery just behind my clematis, 3 babies (stupid rabbit, it was not hidden at all and only a foot away from the path to the back yard that my dog walked numerous times a day) It was also only 10 feet or so from my veg patch, lots of lettuce and bok choy and peas etc to choose from. Not a nibble. She would leave them alone in the nest all day and be gone to some other yard, come back in the night to them but did put a paw in my raised beds. (only raised 6")

    Bookmark     June 10, 2013 at 4:34AM
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annew21(7b NC)

What a fantastic harvest! And nice job cleaning them off, too. :-) Enjoy the radish yumminess.

There's an all-white (non-daikon) radish called white icicle. As already mentioned, there was possibly some cross pollination and perhaps white icicle was one of the parents.

    Bookmark     June 8, 2013 at 7:11PM
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ill_gardener(5B)

Thanks all of you for the replies. I never thought about the cross pollination thing. So much to learn.

@ annew, it took a while to wash and clean them, but it was worthwhile :)

    Bookmark     June 9, 2013 at 10:38PM
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Creek-side(5)

GM, I live in a really moist area (creek-side) about 100 miles west of you. I think I'll get the cages out of the barn for the summer. Thanks for the tip.

    Bookmark     June 9, 2013 at 7:41PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

They work good for them although some varieties get pretty big and may need additional supports too.

Dave

    Bookmark     June 9, 2013 at 8:03PM
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jane4667(5)

Does anyone know where I can get a pre-made gate, or an easy way to make a gate?

    Bookmark     August 28, 2008 at 9:30PM
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Slappalachian

I use nylon 5' by 15' netting, spaced the 3 metal fence posts about 7'3" apart, i drove them in with a small sledge hammer while standing on a 5 gallon bucket. I wrapped the excess netting around each end post to give it a better connection and make it taught. I secured it with 4'' plastic zip ties. The height of the hammered in posts are 62 and 1/2 inches, support the center with zip ties also. The post are heavy duty galvanized steels posts around 5 bucks each at home depot. This trellis is bomber and will support heavy crops. Will provide pic's soon!

    Bookmark     June 9, 2013 at 6:31PM
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AiliDeSpain(6a - Utah)

Sounds like a pollination problem. Also it is normal for zuke leaves to wilt in hot sun, it doesn't mean they need to be watered. If when the sun goes down or they are shaded, they don't perk up, then water them.

    Bookmark     June 9, 2013 at 4:14PM
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Newatthis22

I agree that it seems like a pollination problem. I've watched a bunch of videos on hand pollinating lately, and some of them show you what the zucchini looks like without being pollinated properly.

    Bookmark     June 9, 2013 at 6:31PM
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Aphids??? These them On my eggplant.
Posted by ChicagoDeli37 June 8, 2013
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Those few can easily just be squished and removed by hand. That way there is no risk to the plants as there can be when any spray is used.

Dave

    Bookmark     June 9, 2013 at 3:26PM
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IAmSupernova(SE Texas 9A)

Did try with just the hose originally, the next day they were back just as strong as they were. First soap treatment pretty much obliterated them, second was just because I apparently missed some and they were starting to multiply again. Since then I've watched carefully but haven't really seen them return.

    Bookmark     June 9, 2013 at 5:11PM
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coffeehaus(7a Central VA)

Farmerdill, you've gown quite a variety of broccoli, and many that are new to me.
That photo is impressive, and not a cabbage looper in sight.
Wayne, I'll check the Stokes website.
Thanks for the suggestions!

    Bookmark     June 9, 2013 at 8:28AM
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gardenmom(z4 WA)

I grow Italian sprouting broccoli. After harvesting the main head, we pick smaller broccoli shoots all season long. 2 plants is more than enough for 2 of us.

    Bookmark     June 9, 2013 at 1:07PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

It is also called CILANTRO.
The ones shown on the picture are perfect for harvesting. You can do that t by: Cutting (with knife ..) or pulling up.
In zone 10, they will grow tall , flower and produce seeds(coriander) , if you delay harvesting.

    Bookmark     June 9, 2013 at 12:01PM
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planatus(6)

Cutting celery has mostly hollow stalks and it doesn't taste or smell like cilantro. Do go ahead and start using the stalks in everything. My plants stand through winter and reseed. Right now I have cutting celery plants of all ages in good harvesting condition.

    Bookmark     June 9, 2013 at 12:17PM
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socks

Zucchini is difficult to store long, but I grate it into muffin tins and freeze, then remove the "muffins" and put into plastic bags for freezing. I use it in soups and homemade dog food, might even work for zucchini bread.

You've got a wonderful garden going.

    Bookmark     June 9, 2013 at 9:56AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Just about anything that would not require ripe fruits. That is you wouldn't want to grow melons, w/melons, eggplants.. winter squash.

    Bookmark     June 9, 2013 at 12:10PM
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edweather(Zone 5a/b Central NY)

Have you tried Sevin?

    Bookmark     June 9, 2013 at 9:47AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Do you know what you have there? Bean Plataspid, Megacopta cribraria, aka Kudzu bug, a new (2009) invasive species that was apparently bought into Florida or Texas from Asia and has now moved into parts of Georgia (per the most recent alert on them), NC, and AL.

Your state ag extension service alert asks that they be reported to them by you if you haven't already done so so they can be tracked and infestations contained.

Sevin has not been found to be effective on them. So far, from what I have read, nothing has been found to be effective except a parasitic wasp, hand extermination and crop destruction. Supposedly the USDA is currently testing pesticides trying to find and effective one.

There is a great deal of info available on them on the web - none of it good - linked one info sheet below for you.

Personally I would pull up the crop and destroy as many of them as possible in the process after notifying the extension office for advice.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: New Invasive Pest

    Bookmark     June 9, 2013 at 10:25AM
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planatus(6)

This Clemson pub suggests they might be melon aphids. Do you live in cotton country?

Here is a link that might be useful: Clemson cucurbit pests

    Bookmark     June 9, 2013 at 7:28AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

To the OP - Did you look up thrips as I suggested above? Look at the picture of them in a cuke bloom that I linked below - scroll down to the big pic in the middle of the page.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Thrips in cuke blooms

    Bookmark     June 9, 2013 at 10:02AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Aphids can do that but you'd see the aphids. Bean rust also has a similar pattern but that is the wrong color and there is no sign of the spores either.

I'd be inclined to just call it environmental damage from sun scald and wind burn. Especially if it is just the older leaves as in the pic and not the new growth.

Dave

    Bookmark     June 8, 2013 at 10:49PM
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Garden.Geek(6)

Thank you, Dave. I have noticed some aphids recently, but not many... Still, I sprayed them down with neem just in case. Hopefully this amends the problem. I'm going to remove all the leaves with damage so I can more easily track if its spreading. Again, thanks! :)

    Bookmark     June 9, 2013 at 9:58AM
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