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daninthedirt(Cent TX; HZ10, Sunset z30, USDA z8a)

Well, the Scott's Turf builder herbicides are 2-4 D and Mecoprop, I believe. They act on different weeds. 2-4 D is a suspected carcinogen, but it degrades pretty rapidly. Most of it will be gone in a month or two. Maybe a bit longer for Mecoprop. If you had that stuff in your bed I suspect the whole plant would be affected, not just a few leaves. In any case, if this is your problem, it'll be gone next year. I'd be careful about keeping that stuff well away from your garden beds, though.

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krissy Canto

I dont think it should be a concern, sometimes it just needs a bit more water when the whether is hot. If soil is dry add water. The hot whether sometimes causes leaves to dry out but the plant could still be fine, and if you snip the dead leaves, new ones can grow, but those leaves dont look dead. Dont cut them off as you should keep some leaves to ptorect tge fruit from over exposure to sun. Also sometimes insects eat tge leaves. But that doesnt seem to ruin the plant

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Trishcuit

I just harvested most of mine, leaving a few small ones in for a couple more weeks. I replanted with golden beets this time, and since temps seem optimal, bang on 77 at this moment, I should see some soon. Yay! Looking forward to golden beets for a change.

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loraybar

I planted beet seeds and only 3 came up so I planted lots more and not a one came up. This last planting was six weeks ago, We have had very hot weather. The seeds seem to have disappeared a I dug into the bed and found nothing. Could something be eating the seeds? LB in Oregon

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daniel_nyc(7a)

I always picked up tomatoes ripped ON THE VINE - except when I pick them up before freezing time.

I also had a tomato that stayed green for almost one month, and I had many that get red in 3 days.

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weirdtrev

On average (variety matters) it's about 60 days from flower to harvest. A month to reach mature size and a month to go from green to red. Tomatoes sit on the plant what seems like forever.

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What is this green "poop" coming from my cucumber plant?
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lauren_shumway

Ugh! So is that what this is? To be honest, I'm ready just to pull this cucumber plant out. It's given me nothing but problems since I planted it.

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lauren_shumway

When I picked the leaves up, I noticed fire ants all over the leaves. I read that fire ants are a natural predator of the pickleworms. Do you think they're on the leaves to help get rid of the worms?

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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

"We grow our peas against the entire fence, & therefore we have wonderful peas through the winter"

Lucky you. You must be in a relatively mild winter area. For us northern folks growing peas in the winter (without a greenhouse) is a dream that will never come true. :)

Rodney

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Peter (6b SE NY)

Growing anything in the winter here is a dream that will never come true (unless it is indoors under a grow light or a greenhouse, of course)

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Normally I said go with new plants but given the weather this year if you have been lucky enough to keep your plants healthy I'd be inclined to give keeping them and trying it. As an alternative, you could do a bit of both, keep the best ones going but put some new ones in as well. That way you are covered.

Dave

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Aphids can by hosed off most plant with just a stream of water. You may have to do it 3 or 4 days in a row to get ahead of them. You can also just run your fingers up and down the stems or on the leaves and squish as you go and rinse with the hose or a spray bottle filled with water and set to spray on Stream.

Make sure you aren't over-using high nitrogen fertilizers as it very attractive to them.

Dave

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urchinia
thank you for your advice! I will take my trusty spray bottle and get to it!
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elisa_z5

I like the Gilfeathers too. I did put some in the fridge and forgot about them for a few weeks and they got a little mushy, but still good. I say add some apples and bacon and they'll taste great no matter when you dig them :)

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daninthedirt(Cent TX; HZ10, Sunset z30, USDA z8a)

Thanks. But again, these are mostly just one sentence jab-and-go instructions. When I look more carefully, I see someone suggesting that, once the larva is found, to stab the vine in 1cm intervals around it in a line, and then go back and do the same thing 90 degrees around the vine. Someone else says to stab once with a toothpick and leave the toothpick in (!?) Someone else says to stab the vine at an angle so it penetrates the larva more or less lengthwise. If you stab the larva once anywhere, does that kill it?

The surgery option, which calls for removal of the larva, really doesn't make a lot of sense to me. If you know where it is, why extract it? Just stab it and leave it. Or is the stem compromised by having a dead larva in it? Seems to me that slicing the stem is going to be vastly more damaging to the plant than sticking a pin or a wire through it.

A number of people claim this stabbing method to be unsuccessful. Why might that be? Because you don't really know where it is? If you don't know where it is, what are you going to do with a knife?

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Peter (6b SE NY)

I agree, more info would be great - even for the slice the vine thing. There are often many of them in the vines. I know there were other posters commenting recently on removing many of them, hopefully they can chime in on how they found them, and someone can try stabbing one and seeing what it takes to kill it....

I think part of the reason any of these methods are unsuccessful is because by the time they are tried the plant is already wilting and severely damaged and killing the larva can't undo that. In fact, by the time people slit the stem, they probably wind up doing more damage than the borer.

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Tori

Yes, lemon cucumber! They taste just like a regular cucumber. I harvest mine when they're small and mostly green but starting to turn yellow. I'm sure they're fine when they're bigger and all yellow though. I rub the spikes off with a dish towel and slice them like apples. :)

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tcstoehr(8b Canby, OR)

Concur. Lemon cukes.

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Jim's(6 East end of Long Island)

As I had mentioned, there are some people here with tremendous amounts of knowledge and experience. Farmerdill is one of them. I too appreciate the input on the difference in varieties.

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raymondo17(z9 Sacramento)

Indeed, Farmerdill is a corn guru! Great list! I appreciate listing of days until harvest, as the season is growing short. If I can track down some Silver Duchess or Silver Princess, that sounds like the way to go.

Thanks to everyone for their input. On to my next corn growing question.

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Ariel

Thanks. It looked it had dies already. When I touched it, it fell and didn't move.

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citytransplant(zone5)

Catherine, you can use anything around the house to stop most, if not all of the water leaking out. A flattened can, heavy plastic (such a little bit won't leach much), duct tape, a piece of wood. I have the opposite problem. Hubby didn't want to destroy the tank, so he made itty bitty holes and now my zucchini is turning black and moldy from too much water sitting at their roots. Who knew this would be the "Year of Water" ?

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

<Of course......you realize that as soon as I plug up some of the holes, there will be a drought, right? ;)>

Yep - It's Murphy's Law of Gardening. :-) Just like the years I make raised mounds for the plants in the garden because of the overly wet previous year we have a drought and the years I leave the beds flat and smooth it pours rain like gang busters.

Just don't wedge them in too tight and then, if needed, maybe you can pull a couple if needed.

Dave

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catherinet(5 IN)

Do you have cucumber beetles? They quickly can inject a bacterial wilt into cucumbers. I have to plant "County Fair" cucumbers, which never attract the beetles. Good luck.

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LoneJack Zn 6a, KC

How old are your plants Mike? IME cuke plants have a fairly short harvest window of 4-6 weeks. I plant seeds in early May, start harvesting in early July, and by early to mid August the plants are toast. If I want cukes until fall I will start a second planting in late June so that they start producing about the time the first planting is done.

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Angela Long

Ignore the pumpkin, my kids love it... Our beds is full of these. They are orange. I've left them alone... Will they hurt the veggies if toxic?

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LoneJack Zn 6a, KC

Angela

They won't hurt the veggies. You can leave them be or treat them as weeds. To me they look like Chanterelle mushrooms in the picture which are common this time of year around my area. They are edible and very good to eat, but don't take my word for it.

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