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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Depending on how deep you planted and how much you covered them it and well they are kept watered and how much nutrients are available will be anywhere from 3-6 weeks although it can take longer. See the discussion about this further down the page title newly planted asparagus for more info and details.

Dave

    Bookmark   May 10, 2013 at 2:26PM
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victory_tea2085(z6 Ny)

I put some crowns in 10 days ago and out of 45 more than 30 have come up. I ,initially, made the mistake of putting them in upside down but went in and righted crowns. The article I followed for planting asparagus said they should begin to pop up in about 1 week. Paul

Here is a link that might be useful: Grow Asparagus

This post was edited by victory_tea2085 on Sun, May 12, 13 at 9:24

    Bookmark   May 10, 2013 at 2:57PM
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planatus(6)

The plant is always a clue because pests are crop specific. Google Images is the fastest way to figure out many entomological mysteries. 'pests of [name of crop]' will usually turn up good .edu-sourced images.

    Bookmark   May 10, 2013 at 12:04PM
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ristau5741(6)

wolverine1012 , this place has a _whole_ lotta forums,
go to the front page, click on forums in the upper left,
select garden, home, or nature..

    Bookmark   May 10, 2013 at 12:20PM
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ltilton

A lot of pests only come out at night - cutworms, for example. That could be why you don't see them.

Definitely the best approach is to identify the pest first.

    Bookmark   May 10, 2013 at 9:39AM
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ladybug_0820

Thank you all, this is the most help I've gotten on brainstorming this solution. I have gone out at night, but haven't seen anything. I will try again. But with all the seedlings gone, will the buggers at suspect even come out?

    Bookmark   May 10, 2013 at 10:42AM
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saturn1956(6)

Temps forcast to get down to 40 degrees at night next week. Plants are in containers outside. Basil,Tomatoes,Bush Beans,Red Peppers should I bring them in during those nights or should they be ok outside?

Saturn

    Bookmark   May 10, 2013 at 5:23AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Saturn, now that they are in pots, I would bring'em in. ESPECIALLY basils.

    Bookmark   May 10, 2013 at 7:17AM
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AiliDeSpain(6a - Utah)

My ornamentals did that too before I moved them to their permanent outdoor containers that I am still bringing in at night because of too low overnight temps. I now have one tiny little pepper growing and a ton more blooms. I think they will be just fine if planted out soon.

    Bookmark   May 10, 2013 at 12:42AM
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mandolls(4)

My Serrano peppers are making peppers too. One is almost 2" long already. I plant to thin the load when they go outside. At this point in their growth cycle, you want them to put their energy into growing big and healthy.

As a side note - I bought a lemon tree one year - it was about 6" high, made flowers, actually produced a lemon, and then promptly died (probably of exhaustion)

    Bookmark   May 10, 2013 at 6:26AM
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glib(5.5)

The unfavorability is all in the lengthening days and increasing temperatures. If you were to plant daikon, you would get the same story. Some vegetables are specifically fall and winter vegetables. Arugula behaves similarly.

    Bookmark   May 1, 2013 at 11:24AM
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nickrosesn

Out of the 6 cabbages I had to pull 4 out of the dirt and the two left have not bolted yet. So I'm hoping with luck I'll get cabbage heads from those.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 8:25PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

IMO, burlap is not an effective weed control cover.
Another thing , probably won't decompose for a long time.

use mulch(whenever I can), that will eventally become a soil improver. I like free stuff like tree leavrs, pine needles, wheat straw. if you have small garden(,Under 100 sqr.ft), you can just enjoy weedind a few minutes a day and cultivate the soill. Weeding is essential in the first half of the season when your plant are small and weeds compete with them for nutrients. After that small weeds should not be a problem. actually some of it can be benefitial.

    Bookmark   May 8, 2013 at 12:25PM
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Sparky1961

Still looking for thought on germinating under burlap...Thanks for the idea of cutting crosses and pinning flaps back. And the other thoughts.Im committed to the burlap coffee bags this year...i find find a layer of two is excellent and any weeds are weak.

Not worried about too much burlap. Do others have thought on my main question? o others?

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 8:11PM
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jodie8

Thank you so much! That's was a lot of good information. I didn't even realize there was a container section of the forum. Should have browsed before I posted but I was excited. :) thanks so much for taking the time to help!

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 4:39PM
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rhizo_1 (North AL) zone 7

You should also visit the Herb Forum, where you will soon have your eyes opened about how large our herbs can get in a short period of time.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 5:25PM
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daninthedirt(Cent TX; HZ10, Sunset z30, USDA z8a)

I overwinter peppers routinely. Here in central Texas, it's just a matter of covering them outside. Don't have to bring them inside. (Well, except for a very rare very hard freeze.) But peppers are, for real, perennials. As noted, you have a big head start. I get my first fruit of the spring season in April, and actually get a few stragglers before that.

    Bookmark   May 8, 2013 at 9:13PM
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insteng

Just leave it as it is until you plant it outside and then prune any dead limbs on it. I have a birdseye pepper plant that I have been growing for about 10 years and I never do anything to it other than trim it back everyonce in awhile when it gets too big. It will freeze back to the ground some years but it comes back and grows fine. Right now the plant is taller than I am.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 5:08PM
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dhromeo

Uncover them. You start asparagus by digging a trench, experts have tested different planting depths lately and have found that 5-6 inches deep is ideal. They will do fine if planted deeper.

But you start with a trench, loosen the soil of the trench, and spread the crowns on top of the losened soil in the bottom, then you fill in the thrench with just 2 inches of soil. The crowns you have don't yet have the energy needed to push spears through 8 inches of soil, so you fill it in slowly as the spears grow.

I'd remove some dirt from the top of them, but be careful not to damage what's growing... You should see emergence with what you've got, it will just take new crowns a while to sprout.

Make sure you fertilize them lightly but constantly this year, don't let the brand new plants want for anything.

The idea behind filling in the trench is not to stress the plants, to make them spend every ounce of energy they have in getting ferns up after a fresh transplant.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 12:01PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Are they growing at an angle because I laid the crowns on their side,or because I put too much dirt on them?

Yes. plant with the crown straight up and the roots spread out in a circle around it. Then cover with just enough soil to cover until the sprout and then fill in the trench.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: How to pics

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 1:51PM
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newyorkrita(z6b/7a LI NY)

Wow, you sure are going to have a lot of fine veggies in all that great space.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 11:44AM
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stuffradio

Thanks Rita, I sure hope so! I especially can't wait to get the fall crops in there. In the fall I might do some cover crops in different spots. Maybe Fava beans if they're not too expensive.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 11:53AM
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JWW_1(8B / 9A Foley, AL)

Thanks, Dave. By small, I did mean shorter plant. My assumption (know what that means) was that shorter plants could be planted closer and therefore better fitted to a raised bed.

What spacing is recommended for raised bed gardening? I have heard differing info that varies from 4" to 9" spacing. I think one web site even suggested taller corn be planted at 12" spacing.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 8:24AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

What determines spacing is access and amount of nutrients provided, especially nitrogen. I use 12" spacing because of the way I feed it. But you can go closer (I wouldn't go below 6" spacing) IF you can still access all the plants for side dressing/fertilization/picking/pest control and IF you really amp up the nutrient levels at each stage of feeding.

JMO

Dave

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 11:13AM
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ilovemyroses(8 Dallas TX)

http://www.nha.org/images/sites/OH-June2007-5-copy.jpg

copy and paste (can't do better, sorry! i tried!!) on the above to see a picture of the Nantucket 'oldest house' garden i am trying to copy. i realize the wood will rot, i just like the rough hewn look of it.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 8:56AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

I make a rough estimate , just to get and idea:

in 200 sqr-ft raised beds you can plant 40 to 50 tomatoes.
( I assume 4 to 5 sqr-ft per plant).
Pepperss, eggplants need roughly same amount of space.
per plant. Squash things(depending on type and whether it is trelise or not) can replace 2 tomato plants. In place of one tomato you plant maybe 10 beans....

FAMILY NEEDS:
I think a reasonable estimat of one plant of tomato per person is enough, if you do not intend canning.Make it 1.5 per person.

ALL IN ALL, for a newbie and a family of 4 an alotment of 200 sqr-ft should be more than enough. You will learn your ropes as you go along. Nobody can teach you every thing here. Gardening is somehow like swimming.; You cannot learn it outside. Got to jump in , strggle, drink some dirty water ..LOL

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 11:07AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Could be nothing more that wind damage. Or a bite from a bird. Either way it sure isn't anything to worry about.

Dave

    Bookmark   May 7, 2013 at 9:06PM
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Jade18

Thanks! I can rest easier now. :)

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 9:38AM
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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

And protect them from the wind.

    Bookmark   May 8, 2013 at 12:51AM
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Jade18

Thanks so much!

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 9:36AM
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