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edweather(Zone 5a/b Central NY)

What does the raised bed soil consist of? Is that mulch on top? How's the drainage? How much rain did you get? Looks like they survived the frost ok, but you are right, they are very small. Are they possibly rootbound? What did you transplant them from, and how long ago?

    Bookmark     June 5, 2013 at 12:20PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

At the very least that plant needs a good dose of fertilizer. Like Ed said that soil looks awfully wood chippy. If it is like that throughout then much of the nitrogen in the soil is locked up by the decomposing wood chips.

Lots of rain, especially in poorly draining soil, quickly leads to yellowing of leaves and the root rot that develops in overly wet soil can lead to stunted plants.

If it were my bed I'd mix in a good dose of of a dry nitrogen fertilizer throughout the bed and see if things didn't improve quickly.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Growing Tomatoes forum here

    Bookmark     June 5, 2013 at 12:25PM
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edweather(Zone 5a/b Central NY)

That's a very broad question. What kind of fertilizer? Are there instructions on the package? 5-7 inches sounds about right as far as distance. Not sure if I would put it into 'holes.' Just spread it evenly around and work it into the top of the soil.

    Bookmark     June 5, 2013 at 12:24PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

If you'll go over to the Growing Tomatoes forum here (linked on this forum's front page) you'll find numerous threads running right now on your question about pruning. They even have a detailed FAQ all about it and the effects it has.

Pruning the ends off of leaves (leaf branches) normally poses no problems as long as you don't get carried away. Make a note for next year to increase the spacing. I know Sq Foot gardening recommends 2 sq foot each but many fine 3 sq' works much better.

Dave

PS: Just in case you didn't know there is also a SQ Foot Gardening forum here that deals with the issues unique to that form of gardening.

Here is a link that might be useful: Tomato forum

    Bookmark     June 5, 2013 at 12:20PM
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gbecki49

Thanks to both of you for your responses. Good thing I have 2 other varieties going; one we direct sowed from seed and the other, we got as plants from a different nursery. I'm going to assume the ones that are bolting need to head to the composter?

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 10:06PM
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farmerdill

Those tiny heads are edible, you just don't get any quantity.

    Bookmark     June 5, 2013 at 8:09AM
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NilaJones(7b)

>>To clarify, IS there a benefit to spraying the leaves with a soap solution if you don't see any bugs on them?

If you know what aphids look like, then probably not. If you don't know what they look like, then maybe :).

Mine were the color of the leaf, and smaller than the head of a pin, and buried deep in the crevices of the undersides of the leaves.

    Bookmark     June 5, 2013 at 12:50AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

A lot of responses. I have not read all of them but here is my 2 cents worth of suggestion:

If I were you, I would just direct sow and forget those plants. They don't look healthy for whatever the reason. It could possibly be stressed and will not develop into vigorous plants. My cucumbers were cold stressed too, I just pulled them and planted another series.

    Bookmark     June 5, 2013 at 5:17AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

I would say fertilize and water more often. Also mulch the hills with straw, pine needles, to keep the roots cooler and maintain moisture longer.

I think on the trellis they loose water much faster under Texas sun as opposed to laying down on the ground. That is one reason they need moisture.

PS: Post a picture , if you may. So people here can help you better.

    Bookmark     June 5, 2013 at 3:24AM
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CaraRose

I'm pretty sure you need a male cuke to pollinate. I believe if you have a normal variety nearby, it would also work..

    Bookmark     June 5, 2013 at 12:40AM
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john9001(SW, PA, 6)

Preen makes two types of pre-emergent weed preventer, one has trifluralin the other is just corn gluten, the corn one is labeled "organic". after a while the corn gluten turns to fertilizer. Read the labels.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 5:19PM
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barbe_wa

It's the organic one that I use.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 11:51PM
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john9001(SW, PA, 6)

you may end up with cucmatoes.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 5:24PM
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glib(5.5)

the root space is plenty. Both plants go down 4 feet.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 8:31PM
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nc_crn

In case anyone is wondering, especially since they're owned by Monsanto and there's a ton of misinformation out there about them...Seminis's registered trademark on their X3R stack isn't a patent on resistance to bacterial speck.

It's simply the registered trademark on the "name" they've given to the trait stack they developed and bred into their plants. It's like "Certs mints with Retsyn"...rather than "Certs mints with copper gluconate and flavoring". Anyone can put copper gluconate and flavoring into their mints...they can't call it or market it as Retsyn, though.

    Bookmark     May 25, 2013 at 4:55AM
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Jon.69367(6)

I really appreciate the information in such a knowledgeable way.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 7:40PM
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2ajsmama

Oh yeah, bust up old roofs and stone walls for mulch.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 12:26PM
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julia42(9a)

Yes, the description says that they're from recycled walls and roofs.

Then later on it says they're "quarried" by a family owned business.... hmm...

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 6:43PM
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IAmSupernova(SE Texas 9A)

AFAIK Lady Bug eggs are yellow.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 1:08PM
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sunnibel7 Md 7(7)

Ladybug was probably dining on some of those. :) pretty sure those are all pests in that photo.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 2:52PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Just pick/scoop them out and toss them in the compost pile. They do good work there.

Dave

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 11:12AM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

Dave: Wouldn't you just be throwing an even higher population of them back into the garden when you use said compost?

Kevin

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 2:11PM
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abnorm(Orlando)

Those are common markings on mature Evergreen bunching onions

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 8:06AM
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yanyan88

So they are normal? I've seen them on the green onions at the grocery stores too.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 1:06PM
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Hishigata

Thanks for all the great advice. I had never heard of SVB until joining garden web. I did surgery on a declining pie pumpkin this morning. I pulled out two white squishy bugs and fed them to the chickens.

I just planted a second round of squash in a different bed but don't want the tender new plants to be eaten from within before fruiting. I checked for eggs this morning and did not find any. I have been using neem oil to combat aphids on my brussels sprouts. Does anyone know if neem oil helps combat SVB or squash beetles?

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 12:44PM
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wertach zone 7-B SC

I had fun frying them buggers when I got home yesterday!

When I put the torch on the plants the adults came out in numbers and got fried also!

I got a lot of them, but I'm sure some escaped!

Hishigata, I read somewhere that neem helps. I plan to get some on the way home.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 12:56PM
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